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One of the complaints about Gate Trials is the loss of all points, due to a single dab. The complaint is that is causes people not to try something tough, for fear of losing all points.
After riding Gate Trials under a NUMBER of different formats, we finally arrived at an approach that has worked great, the last several times we have used it. One benefit is that you can use standard 1,2,3,5 point scorecards. Some methods require a notepad, and a calculator, with all their complex kajillion point scoring systems.
For an idea on how we do it, go to our website: www.TexasTrials.com
Look part way down the right side of the page, and you will see the "Outlaw Gate Trial" logo. Below that, you will see the link called "What is an Outlaw Trials?" Click on it for detailed rules on running this type of event.
When we do these events, we typically don't layout sections in advance. When the group shows up for the event, we divide up into teams (typically 6). Each team is allowed 60 to 90 minutes, to go out and layout one section. Fairly quickly then, we have 6 sections, all of different styles, and difficulty levels. The great thing is that with gates, you don't have to try anything you don't want to, just in case a team went over the top in laying out their section. We have found that this is a great way to pass on the skills of laying out a good section, to our young or inexperienced riders. We were getting to where nobody would be able to put on an event, after all our old guys died off!
As far as judges, we usually don't have any. Instead, we will ride in a group, or groups, and score each other. Again, builds the skills and ability of the young, or new, riders. Both on scoring, and how to approach walking, and eyeing a section.
Give it a shot, and I think you will have a great time. We find it to be a very laid back way of having fun, and being more social in the effort of putting on a trial.
- Darrell
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You were riding a 4-stroke, for a while, were you not? If so, why the switch back, and what has your experience been in doing so? Been on 4-strokes for 4 years now, and am considering going back. But, LOVE the smooth low end of the 4-stroke, and don't want to give that up.
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I have serious doubts on that. Where did you come across this information?
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Pass along to them that trials bikes don't have high front fenders. Something as basic as that, they got wrong. Never mind the ridiculous air time, back flips, etc. Maybe a great game, and lots of fun, but calling it "Trials" is a joke of the highest order.
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Yes. Rode one for about 18 months, and really enjoyed it. There are some pretty standard carb mods (jetting, etc.) that I don't remember the details on, but search through the old posts, and you will find them. Also, open up your exhuast silencer, and you will find a perforated tube running through the packing. Look in the tube, and you will find a series of solid rods, Drill those out, so that you are left with only the perforated tube, and then reassemble your silencer. Very slight noise increase, but much improved performance, with the carb mods.
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Try mixing 50:50 race fuel, with pump gas, and see if it goes away. Most likely pre-detonation from not having a high enough octane fuel.
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A misunderstanding of the word "pinging", which is pre-detonation.
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On the surface, the Sherco sounds like the better bet. But, I wonder why a bike "ridden easy for one season" needed new tires?
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"Riding" pictures don't typically put names with faces, as you typically don't get a good facial view. If you do, then it is all scrunched up, with your tongue sticking out, etc.
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Unfortunately for all parties, it didn't work out as planned.
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Anything is possible, I suppose. But, I guarantee, that had anyone here known where there were "50 plus" Bultaco's, to be had, I imagine we would have kept them! So, I kind of doubt it.
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Makes sense. It is not the sparkplug change that makes it work, but instead the fact that the plug wire was moved around, while changing it.
Betatim - Next time, just pull the plug wire, move it all around, and then stick it right back on the same plug. I bet it works just as well as changing out the plug.
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An aquaintance that restores vintage fiberglass (http://www.edsbultaco.com/index_files/Page344.htm) warned me that the Caswell product was the ONLY product that works on fiberglass. He developed a piece of equipment that keeps the tank rotating in all directions, while the epoxy cures. Apparently, that process and the Caswell sealer, does the trick as he guarantees his work.
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Flying with Cope in a "very small" aircraft. Now that is a scary thought!
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The last time I rode Mid-Ohio, Bob & crew setup all the sections, under AHRMA. Several years back, but we were all complaining about AHRMA's lack of interest in trials. We were like the red-headed step child, or a second thought, in every case coming after all the other groups. If ITSA steps in, for the trials, that would be great. Same venue, same trialsmaster, no AHRMA dead weight.
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Had mine for over a year now, without an issue. VERY early on, had a few cooland dribbles, until things set in. Beyond that, not a single problem, and transmission / clutch is great. Moving from a Scorpa 4-stroke, the gearing felt really tall, in the beginning. Once I got used to it, I realize it is spot on. The Scorpa was just geared way too low. Having owned 7 Scorpa in a row, I can attest to the fact that the build Beta quality is considerably better.
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Sure looks like there is more room, with the EVO. At least enough to get to the exhaust side, maybe.
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Moose Racing Gear makes a line called "Qualifier". Do a web search, and you can often find last years pants for less than $50 a pair. While tough, like MX gear, the fabric is a lighter denier, and not covered with all the typical graphics. I have been using them for several years now, as have several buddies. They make great trials pants, at a price that is hard to beat.
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Ah yes. The early Japanese to English manual translations were always fun. Especially when it came to the technical stuff, you needed to repair your bike.
"Caution - Nut remove first for the bolt on depressor of kickstart is near, and damage may be caused with any removed frequency."
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My thoughts are whether a new "classic" can be built, and sold, for less than the cost of a nicely restored "classic". I wouldn't think so.
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Guess nobody told you that the plastic skid plate isn't really made for riding trials!
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Agreed. I was tired of seeing the Moto Guzzi title month after month. Finally changed, and it was only a bait!
But, since were in here anyway... No, I haven't had any problems with my 4-stroke.
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If the objective, to prevent damage, is "no ethylene glycol" then is appears you would have to be specific in getting the Evans "NPG", and not the NPG+ or NPR-R.
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