dgshannon

That, I can full agree with. But, now that I have owned both a SY175F and SY250F, my list is growing.

Having a Christian association, for members of your motorsport, is not unique to trials. Racers For Christ (RFC) has been around a good while, and has grown to include many other forms of the sport. Link: http://www.teamrfc.org/ Racers For Christ Rodders For Christ Restorers For Christ Pullers For Christ (as in tractor pulls) Rockcrawlers For Christ "Team RFC is a group of people whose love of the Lord is so strong that we include him in our everyday activities..."

Thats kind of the way trials helmet are! After a full face MX helmet, most specialist trials helmets will feel like this. For the fit you are probably expecting, you will need to use a regular open face road helmet. I've tried this option and although you feel more secure, you can't hear what the engine is doing and I found that I got way too hot. I suppose the fact is, that you don't need the same level of high speed protection when riding trials. No doubt that trials helmets don't look the same, on your head, as a road helmet, or full face offroad helmet. But, the side to side wobble, versus front to back, etc. is all a function of how the company designs the foam and liner. You just may not be able to get an NZI to fit your head, while another brand may be fine. I have had NZI, Yes, and now Shiro, and they all fit differently. I am most happy with the fit of my Shiro, as it is more like a headband, and secure all the way around. But, everybody's head shap is different, so you just have to experiment.

We have this guy in our club to! The South Texas Trials guys know exactly who I am talking about! I think I can do that...

Long story, actually. The idea for Trials for Christ was born from a conversation that a gentleman named Bob Nichols, and I had, standing in the queue at a section one day. After some time, he got serious about the idea, and asked me to do the website for him. In addition to the initial Texas chapter, a couple more were born in other states. I hosted the website on my www.trialscomp.com server, which is why you see the old Trials4Christ.com domain name resolve to the TrialsComp site. At any rate, Bob moved to Florida a few years back, and the Texas chapter (and website) dwindled away. Can't say how the other chapters are doing.

What paint, or final coating did you use, to resist the fuel? I am restoring a Cota 247 tank, and want to be sure that all the work is not shot after a few fuel spills.

Sold by who? I've never come across a production SY200F being sold anywhere. Only the 163cc kit, from the factory.

The 160cc kit has been available from the factory, for a couple of years now. I have likewise seen people make reference to an SY200F, as if it is a factory production bike, but have not seen anything (as far as marketing materials) that supports this. Not sure if the bike is a reality, or if folks are just confusing the kit with a production model.

A fast throttle is not going to do anything for the problem you are describing. The Scorpa has an adjuster plate that will let you change you timing, very easy. For whatever reason, different areas get bikes with different timing settings, and different flywheel weights. You more than likely have a heavy flywheel, and retarded timing. Try advancing your timing a bit, and see if the problem gets better.

Kevin has ridden several of our Texas trials lately, including some of our summer series, and state series events. He grew up riding trials, in the Houston area, where his family owned one of the more popular motorcycle shops, in the 70's. It is my understanding that other members of his family rode trials as well. So, it would be fare to say that he took those skills into his road racing career, as opposed to something he just started recently. He seems to be a very friendly, down to earth, guy. I rode with him in a group, at one of our events, for the better part of the day before it dawned on me who he was! At another event, he even filled my bike up for me, when I came rushing through the pits for fuel. It is always nice when somebody you admire as a "star" turns out to be a genuinely nice person.

You are a lot of things, but you are not an "average gal".

Yes, I am currently wearing a Shiro. I have had two NZI, and a YES helmet. The Shiro fits my head best of all. The shape makes it fit more like a headband, in that it is snug all the way around my head, versus there being contact (pressure points) only in certain areas.

No, they won't fit. But why would you want to? You can get the seat for the SY175, and it bolts right on. Much cheaper, and a lot more comfy.

For some it is, but not for the Scorpa. Something isn't right.

Say what? I have had 5 Scorpa in a row, all with these footpegs, and never found them to be fragile. They are CNC machined from a solid billet of duraluminum.

To take a poop!

Are they heavy?Is the liner fully removable or just the cheek pads removable? About 1000 grams, and the liner is fully removeable. And, to the point of "Old Trial Fanatic's" rant, the fit is great, for my head. Very different than an NZI or YES. It is snug around my forehead, making it feel stable and secure, rather than just a bucket on my head.

Just received one of the new Spanish made Shiro helmets, from the Tryals Shop. Link: http://www.tryalsshop.com/ Much cooler than my NZI or YES helmets. The buckle is a little strange to get used to, at first, but the comfort and quality are great, and you can't beat the $169 price.

Link: http://www.tryalsshop.com

Agreed. The Cota 247 and it's appearance in "On Any Sunday" defines what a trials bike looks like, in my mind. I am over 40 (pushing 50!) and find the old British iron very cool (because I am a 4-stroke fan), but no comparison to the early Cota.

I have owned many Scorpa 2-strokes, and there is not a thing wrong with the airbox, except user error. This whole thread seems to be about how much trouble comes from not using the proper products. Get a spray can of air filter cleaner, spray it on, wash it out in the ktchen sink. Couldn't be easier. Blow the filter dry with a common hair dryer. Get yourself a plastic ziplock bag, and place te air filter inside. Get a can of spray air filter oil, and with the filter in the bag, use the plastic tube that came with the can to spray oil on the inside and outside of the filter. (Still no mess on your hands) Now, close the bag top and massage the oil into the air filter, while the bag protects your hands. Once done, take out the filter and put it back in the bike. With the Scorpa filter, it is really easy as you can grab the edge of the rubber gasket, pull it out of the bag, and drop it in the bike. Snap down the clips, and your done. Now, if you really want it easy, get the Scorpa SY250F. Pop out the Green cotton (K&N style) filter, blow it off with the compressed air hose, and drop it back in the bike!

Interesting observation. Engine braking is one of the characteristics I like most in the two 4-stroke trials bikes I have had, so far. If Beta has gone a different path on this, then it opens up a choice for 2-stroke riders that want to switch to a 4-stroke that performs like their old 2-stroke. I think that there are a lot of people that fall into this camp. They will get a 4-stroke when they can "make them as good as" (read "just like") my current 2-stroke. In the other camp are the riders that want a 4-stroke because it "is" (or has the characteristics of) a 4-stroke. Sounds as if Beta may have created a product that will help bring in more 4-stroke riders from the "other" camp, that Montesa & Scorpa have yet to reach.

If you are a Yamaha fan, you gotta' love the colors! I rode an SY175F (143cc) for a little over a year, and absolutely loved the bike. I weigh 225 lbs, and was amazed at how the bike would pull me around. I con only imagine the the now larger engine is that much better. The only problem I experienced with mine was the ground clearance at the front edge of the skidpan. The way the motor mounts results in the front being low to start with, but add my weight to the equation, and I had to be constantly aware of what I was about to hit, or go over. I have since moved on to the SY250F. Great bike as well, but there is something to be said for the simplicity of that little air-cooled motor. Especially when it comes time to adjust the valves!

Went through the same thing with my 1974 247, a few months back. After searching high and low, including Southwest Montesa, all I could find was original size, and 4th oversize. Fortunately, my barrel cleaned up well enough that I could get away with original. When I spoke with Jared, at Southwest Montesa, he was just starting to explore the modification of some Bultaco pistons, that he hoped would work in the 247. Good luck.