dgshannon

It would be an interesting twist to see everyone shift from "Your favorite bike sucks" to "My favorite bike sucks". Each of the bikes, along the way, that I have felt strongly about, (in that I really liked them), had some equally frustrating faults.

Funny you say that! I have owned 3 different Cota 315's, one which had a Sureflex clutch kit, and they would all stick when cold. Pushing off before selecting a gear became such a habit, I still tend to do it to this day, even though my Scorpa SY250F doesn't stick. Old habits die hard...

Yeah, but they were stylin' right up until that last moment!

Gee, just think if someone had been bright enough to kill off Hitler before all the problems came about. There is a major difference between concern and discern. Sometimes, fighting for your rights might involve the need to figure out who the enemy is. What I am trying to say is that those who would take away the rights don't seem to be able to discern the difference between the damage done by a monster 4-wheel drive Jeep, and a light footprint trials bike. It may become necessary at some point to start driving home that distinction. If not, history may one day reveal that the 'oneness" you seek was the seed of the downfall.

Alan, Thanks for making this post, because it saves me the effort. As long as my tax dollars are being used to provide care for the uninsured, or under-insured, I have a problem with freedom of choice. Whether it is no helmet, smoking, drinking while driving, the cost of housing repeat criminals, etc. freedom of choice almost always conflicts as a burden upon others. I am all for no helmet, if that is what turns your crank. Smoke all you want, and have a drink to. But when you are incapacitated from the wreck, dying of cancer, or need the liver transplant, why does anyone other than you have to pay for it?

I suppose none of us have any stats, so it is easy to generalize. I live in Houston, Texas and see the same issues with quads as you guys have observed. In general, the machines themselves are destructive with the trend of heaver, more powerful, and more destructive seeming to be the marketing plan. Again, in general, if you look at who these machines are being marketed to, it is not motorcyclists. Hunters, ranchers, etc. appear to be a prime market. Next appears to be those not skilled enough, or that never learned to ride a motorcycle. "Those that can ride a motorcycle do. Those that can't ride quads." The crowd that quads attract is scary. As mentioned, the beer drinking, ice chest toting, no helmet wearing, brain-cell shortage group seems to be the primary demographic for these machines. Can't tell you how many times I have see a quad loaded down with 3 or 4 people, all without a helmet or protective gear, go racing down the trail at high speed. We have lost one of our few riding areas to the destruction of quads. The last time we were there, this was the scene. Two pickup trucks hauling large cattle trailers pulled into the parking lot, and proceeded to unload about 15 to 20 quads. The other vehicles in parade then unloaded about 2 to 3 times as many teenagers to early 20 year olds. While about 3/4 of the quads went out to rut and destroy the trails, the balance began racing around in the parking lot, detroying it. What once had been a small pot hole in the center of the parking lot was now about 15 foot across and 3 feet deep. On this particular day, the hole was full of water, and one of these idiots proceeded to pull the cattle trailer through the hole, getting it stuck. The entire parking lot, and trail area, turned into beer, chaos, and destruction. While it would appear that the groups mentioned as OHV (4x4's, Jeeps, ATV's, etc.) need to band together to fight for rights, I don't think that is the right approach. Sort of like including a group of terrorists, or murders, in your group fighting for rights to keep guns. There are some folks that you just don't want to be associated with your cause! All of the folks I ride with have seen the destruction, and crowd, that is so prevalent with the quads and absolutly loath the idea of what these folks are doing to the future of open riding areas. It seems strange that the very motorcyclists that are fighting for their own riding rights are the very ones that would be first in line to pull the plug on the rights of the quad riders! If something is not done about the quads, we can all kiss our rights goodbye. Sadly, it appears that any action need to be "anti-quad" versus everybody going down by banning together with a group that "in general" is so destructive and irresponsible.

Note that the question is "got a 4stroke" and not "rode a 4stroke"! I have had two 4-strokes in a row (Scorpa SY175F & SY250F), and loved/love them. I know one person who purchased a Montesa 4RT, rode it awhile, and went back to a 2-stroke. In fairness, they tuned the EFI mapping to the most extreme setting, across the board, installed a fast throttle, and then complained because the bike was too hyper and they could not control it.

Excessive exposure to "Gas Gas" gas!

Scorpa did. Neither my SY175F or SY250F had/has either problem.

Most likely is the choke, but not like the 175 Scorpa. The 175 uses a Magura setup. The Scorpa SY250F uses an AJP setup, with the choke lever built in. It would be a fair guess that Beta used the AJP as well.

You and I have seriously different views of "safe". My thoughts exactly! Visions of Tim the Toolman, and his constant screw-ups in pursuit of "more power" keep running through my head.

I've never ridden "your friend's father's Montesa", so it would be had to say! But, if your Beta is in "very good condition" and the Montesa is only "average condition for it's age", then why are you considering it?

Montesa has issued a press release and photo regarding Geoff Aaron, Keith Wineland and ERE making the move from Gas Gas to Montesa for 2007. The info is available on Trials Competition's news page. Link: http://www.trialscomp.com/news.asp

True. Goto the Trials Competition website for the story & photo. Link: http://www.trialscomp.com/news.asp

Really. Airing complaints and dirty laundry before you have even contacted Brian, or the NATC, about the problem ain't cool. You should have at least given someone a chance to respond, and correct the problem. Then, if you were not getting any satisfaction, the forum may have become an appropriate call to attention.

"Appear" being the key word here!

Since you took the time to mention it, one would suspect that you believe this to be the case. Any reason to believe that the one you rode was out of the ordinary? Or had something different about it than the standard production bikes will have? It is interesting how widely the reports vary on the bike. Others (US Riders I have spoken to) report that the bike is soft on the bottom, and then hits hard as the revs come on. I know that the bike comes with various jets, alternate slides, etc. for tuning, so I suspect that there will initially be a wide variety of reports as people ride different bikes that have been modified in different ways. One of the US riders has been working closely with a local Yamaha employee that has a lot of experience with the WR250F engine. They have been trying to incorporate his knowledge of the engine into the jetting and carb setup. The US Scorpa importer experimented with their setup, and several other variations, before returning to the stock setup. In his opinion, a new engine is way too tight to start passing judgement on and needs to be broken in before attempting to arrive at a good setup. The engine's tightness was contributing to the tendancy to stall at low RPM's, and goes away as the engine breaks in. Do you know how many hours were on the bike that you rode? Had the owner been playing with the jetting, slides, needle, etc. or was the bike stock? Mine arrives Thursday, so I am looking forward to some first hand experience with the bike!

Well, it is nice to know that it "looked and rode". Frank might not like it otherwise.

The red screw adjusts the lever position closer or further from the bar. Look on the opposite end, where the slave cyclinder mounts to the engine. If you look close, the little rod coming out of the slave is slotted for a screwdriver. You can screw it in, or out, as necessary to adjust the position of the actuator arm.

0.7 - 0.8 mm (0.027 - 0.031 in) is straight out of the manual, so yes 1.15mm is too big!

Nice!

It is probably not the new bike, but instead the EXTRA practice time that you put in because you are enjoying riding the new bike. More practice, on the old bike, probably produces the same result.

The hot setup is the Bosch Platinum WR8DP. Gap is: 0.7 - 0.8 mm (0.027 - 0.031 in) The statement about using a resistor plug is correct. It is a requirement for the 315.