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Where are you Sykes? In Europe the 4-stroke TY 125 FR is a current model: Using the same built-under-licence/copied 'Yamaha' engine that the Gas Gas Randonne uses, complete with e-start. More info on the Scorpa.fr website... I understand that from 2013, the Gas Gas may be upped in cc - presumably using one of the bigger bore kits (either factory or dealer fitted) that were/are available for the old Yamaha engined bikes? - 163cc has been mooted - which I believe was the actual capacity of the old TY-F200? A pretty bike, although the Gasser might be easier to source where you are? I know they are making their way into the US at the moment... Jx
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Best get in contact with the US GasGas importer, but I'm not sure it's a current model in the US yet? However, if it is going to be, then I for sure will be buying one next year for use out there! Yes, it is a fully road-legal model in the Europe: In the UK, the Randonee costs £2999... however, traditionally you guys pay dollars for pounds, so I doubt it's going to be much more than whatever the price of their small capacity trials bikes are? (The rookie 70 is the same price in the UK) Jx
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I agree - perfect spec really... but you very rarely see them that recent - not sure how many were even imported to the UK in that spec? (the seller said he imported that one himself) ...and it wasn't road registered, otherwise it would have been mine! Jx
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It was a post in the "which scorpa should I buy?" thread - the link is here: http://todotrial.com/ttactual/index-actual-marcototal.htm? Scroll down and there is a picture/link on the left hand side - it's all in Italian mind you! Jx
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That's fair enough - there was a '08 200 on ebay a couple of weeks ago, think it went for the best part of
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Just stoking this fire again... Looks like Scorpa are bringing the TY-S125 back for 2012, including e-start! Humana humana! Jx
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Looks to me to be pretty much a stock 2006 model... at the end of the day it is a five year old, air-cooled trials bike, so it's hardly going to be cutting edge compared to the latest crop of trials bikes - but that's not the point, it will be a hoot to own and ride regardless of the spec? I'd snap it up at that price, and would have, but there is no mention of it being road registered, which is what I'd want... (with the original factory now defunct, I understand it is harder/if not impossible to get a letter of authentication for the engine and chassis numbers for older Scorpas - something you might want to consider?) Jx
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Awesome! Looks like Scorpa's version of the 'Randonee' - complete with e-start... so do I choose red, or orange now?! Jx
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Yes, I got it from ebay - it's the Delkevic system (using the original front pipe) - I can't remember the seller, but I believe they are available from a number of trials parts suppliers either on ebay or via their own online/shop. Jx
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I always presumed it was a Yamaha, or at least a copy made under licence? The layout of the architecture looks very similar to the [Yamaha] engine in the Scorpa TY-S, even down to the position of the starter motor (which is not fitted to the Scorpa of course), the oil filler, the exhaust exit, the inspection holes in the left hand case for setting the timing etc. If you compare a photo of TTR125 next to it, you can see the similarities... But maybe it is Chinese like you say? Jx
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Hi Nick - I'm thinking about getting one of these too - how does it ride as a trail bike? Obviously it's going to feel a little cramped (but then I'm used to my TLR), but what about it's on-road ie. 'between-lane' performance? Also - have you ridden a dedicated trails bike in comparison? How do you consider the quality of the Randonnee's suspension etc? I must say, I'm still tempted by the little fella, even if it turns out to be a bit crap! Jx
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Hi everyone - having tidied up the TLR a bit (gratuitous opportunity for another photo:), I was wondering what people's opinions are on replacement footpegs? I keep seeing the alloy ones on ebay from G.R.Craft in Japan - has anyone got these and what do they think? I like the fact (they say) that they don't interfere with the kickstart lever, unlike my currently fitted Pivot Pegz which need to be folded up each time... Any advice would be appreciated - but basically what I'm looking for is a wider alloy peg, that doesn't foul the kickstart, and it appears there is only that one option? Jx
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Hi Jack - that would be great! - I'm honored you'd like to include it... I'll email you a few photos and a brief background/spec. Jx