hi bullylover thanks for that. on my other bully the exhaust is leting smoke out abit at the manifold its had a new copper gasket when i took it off looks like sombody had put sealant round the manifold it looks like the metal plate that gose over the 4 bplts as got a slight bend in it so i dont think it sealing it hence the smoke id have to buy a new front pipe but think ill put some gasket sealant on it cheers bondy