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Ric, did you ever resolve this issue?

I had similar with my daughters ty80' left te fuel on when stopped, couple of hours later the bike was so flooded it would not start. Took endless plug drying and kicking to grit going again, when it finally did fire it took about 20 minutes to burn and pump the flooded fuel through the exhaust. Made a hell of a mess of the patio stones which the wife still reminds me of at every opportunity

and I want some of those green loafers to match my bike!!

sorry.....didn't even notice you sat down there.......

which one is you?

I had a 2011 and never had any issues, I thought the shaft had been fixed on the 2012 in your case apparently not!

I don't recall anything specific with the 2012 model, they had the upgraded shift shaft fitted after the initial 2011 issues. this one also has 2013 plastics and the originals as spares as well as a bunch of other spares by the sound of it so it does seem like a good buy

is the bike on a stand with the rear wheel off the ground when this is happening?

So....your index finger locks straight out and you cannot bend it?.....that sounds weird

I made my pack from AAA size batteries instead of AA as originally supplied by ossa, less mah but as it is always being recharged by the bike it does not matter

The standard 12v option ossa first investigated was a pack that replaced and acted as the capacitor, and that was controlled by a switch. the downside of this system was that everytime you turned it on or moved the kickstarter the sytem would be re-charged and the pump re-pressurized leading to potential flooding in some cases. although not yet confirmed, I think the new easy start system is a 12v system that is just a starter aid that precharges the system after a momentary press of a button on the handlebars, like the 9v system - the deifference being that the 12v system also charges the fuel pump as well as the ECu which is all the 9v system does. The 9v system definitely works better if yo uuse a highpower battery such as an energizer lithium. From the looks of the new part on the 2014 ossa's the battery would have to be a rechargeable version which means that there must be a constant power supply to recharge the battery, this is think must come from one of the other circuits with the lighting circuit being favorite. the charge would be placed into the ecu and fuel pump by a quick press of the button, this eliminates the constant recharging of the original 12v system eveytime you move the kickstarter. Once the bike fires up the capacitor simply takes over and the 12v battery receives its re-charge from the light circuit or another power source. I have tested this theory with the exception of the recharge circuit and the momentary push of the button and charge of the fuel system does work. Anyone with a 2014 feel free to chime in with any additional details as to how the new easy start works on your bike. Apparently the new system will be available as a retrofit on pre-2014 bikes but cost and delivery date are not available in Canada at this time.

air leak? flywheel crank seal gone, leak between the carb and cylinder

Jay, this sounds like what I spent all day figuring out, any chance of a pic or2, especially the lighting connector so I know which it is. So, just to get this right, you have the 12v connected via a kill type button, similar to the old 9v system, when you press it briefly it charges the ecu and primes the fuel pump, you then kick it and away you go, but you have to press te button to charge the system, it like the old 12v which charged every time you pressed the kick starter.

Another thought would be to fit a flywheel weight, the extra mass should spin the engine easier on the kick stroke

I am also trying to find details on the 2014 system and how it works, not sure if available yet from the importer, or how to make your own

Hi lotus, I am curious how the capacitor gets charged, is there a battery pack connected that charges the capacitor when pressed? If so, is it a 9 or 12 v battery and is it rechargeable as part of the running system or does it have to be replaced? I am trying to investigate to help out a couple of other owners (and myself) who have issues sometimes starting their trials bikes. I do not think the standalone part is available yet from dealers so would be interested in the tech details how it works to try to make one, any pointers would be much appreciated

Apparently on the 2014 bikes they have fitted a new starter assist system but I do not know anything about how it works yet. A couple of weeks ago I injured my knee and reverted to the old 12 v battery pack mod which I always thought made starting easier than the 9 v version, not sure if you are familiar with that system ric? Basically you replace the capacitor with a battery pack made of 10 rechargeable aa or aaa size batteries ( I use aaa size to make the pack more compact with no noticeable difference) and have a switch that pre charges the fuel pump, the 9 v system only puts a charge through the ecu I believe so you still have to kick to charge the pump using the 9v system. Also a lot is down to kick technique, mine is typically crap ut I see plenty of ossa riders who have no trouble at all starting theirs or my bike. Anyone with knowledge of how the new system works on th 2014 bikes pleAse jump in and let us know o it works and any benefits

If you could get some, Royal Mail delivery pouches would be fantastic. When I used to work for them they would regularly throw out old ones that would still be very serviceable for trials peg bags. Contact your local delivery office and explain exactly what you would use them for, likely for security purposes you would have to remove any Royal Mail identifiers but they would do te job

Good job ric, a good result and good tip for others to remember going forward. This is one area of maintenance I would not normally consider "regular" but will from now on

Also, it looks like your filter box is cracked and you have a nut holding the cover plate on, I would lose the nut and retap the tab so you just have to screw the retaining screw in, this will also let you fix the airbox crack and seal better

As a suggestion, you may want to try a jitsie pre filter that fits in place of the rubber cap. I had one on my 2011 and never had anywhere near the amount of dirt in my air box as you seem to have. One of these: http://www.splatshop.co.uk/jitsie-ossa-11-12-airfilter.html You can get them from lewisport in the US as well

Any update on this ric? I am curious to see what caused it to just stop

You could check in with Borus to see if he has any ideas, I know he is now sherco but may be worth a shot as I guess you are out of warranty now

Never heard of it before but assume you have checked all the connections at the headstock, from the capacitor etc. Do you have any start assists fitted that may be causing an issue?

Good looking bike, I had heard of a new starter system, how does it work, and Ustinov how east is it? I know other Ossa owners looking to retrofit something f it really works