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The top end of the 4rt is absolutely more expensive to rebuild do to valves, cam, ect. The 4rt is not a higher reving engine than the 2 strokes. Dependes who is riding them how much any get reved anyway. My Beta sees the high end of the revs quite often do to section difficualty and terrian. A novice rider may never see many revs unless by accident. A beta will go several years of hard use with no noticeable power loss as long as it has been well maintained, (airfilter, exhaust packing, good oil). If you want to freshen it up its a couple gaskets, piston and rings. No matter how you cut it the job is more extensive with the 4rt. Aaron

I have done that very thing on a 76 TL 250 so you will be fine. The 07 Rev is a touch easier though. Its all nuts and timing. Good Luck. Aaron

Looks and sounds a lot like the "splatter". It works better with a kicker but that is not at all necessary. Its all clutch, throttle, compression, unload, and timeing. To learn it you really need to be comfortable with the bike and how it works along with a bit brave. If you dont understand the process you wont get it without someone watching you and pointing out what went wrong. Aaron

Thanks for the specs guys. Its been a long time since I have done the inverts. I still think they are the most plush forks I have ever ridden. When I got my 01, Beta USA said I could still specify inverts for my 01. I went with the conventional forks. I have been happy with the conventional on all my Betas since. I think they are better than what the rest of the boys are offering. After a trials yesterday I brought home a fellows 00 Rev for some engine work and after trying the thing out I was reminded how much I still like those inverted forks. Even after 8 years and poor maintaince they still fell good. Aaron

Anyone remember or know what the fork oil capacities for a 2000 Rev are. These are the inverted forks and its been 7 years since I serviced the the forks on a 2000. Thank You Aaron

How big are you into wrenching? There are several ways to do it. The most simple way is to take the fork out of the clamp. Loosen the cap first. Pop the top and drain the fluid into a container. Run the slide up and down several times to get maximum fluid out. Measure the amount of fluid you took out then add that much back to the fork with fresh 5 weight. This is not such a good idae if your fork has been leaking but if you are just doing maintiance you will be fine. Aaron

Didnt your 07 come with a shop manual? Its all laid out for you in there. Aaron

Thanks Guys!!

Anyone have a suggestion for buying all the bits and pieces for making your own, very high quality, controll cables? I have a need to create my own cables for some custom bike projects but everyone I contact wants me to send them my old cables and they will build a new one from it. I have no old cables to send. In fact no cable exists for these bikes. Thats why I just want parts. Any info. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Aaron

Excellent bike for its time. World Champ machine back in 92 I think, as mentioned before. Forks are prone to go through fork seals. With the USD fork there is a lot of flex at the seals. That tends to make the seal wear in an oval pattern and causes the seal to leak. They are also harder to change than standard forks. I just did 2 sets a month ago. I tighten the seal springs a bit before I put them in. As far as performance, if she is still pretty tight and you want more responce out of her, there is a rotary valve reprofile that can be done if you can get your hands on a pattern. Pretty simple and a noticable improvement. If you are happy with the power ride and have fun. Aaron

Our British Trials is the same thing. One line, 15 sections, probably 3 loops. Its a big loop though. If you like to trail ride this is the event. As far as PA sign up goes, I just give them my AMA card with 20 bucks and go riding. Hope to see some of you folks at NTR this year! Signing up will be pretty simple. AMA card and 20 bucks unless you join NTR. Then all modern events are $15. Vintage events are still $10 to everyone. There is a Exhibition class for modern bikes too. As always, after a vintage, food and beverage are provided. Aaron

I would think you would be quite happy with either. I would go for the better maintained of the 2. If you could find a Rev instead of a Techno that would always be my choice though. Aaron

Sorry but you already missed one on the 22nd of April. No fear there will be 2 more this season at my place. We started a new club up here, political issues. Check us out at ntrtrials.com everything you need to know should be there. Make sure you all come up to Cayuta for our season opener 2 day. We made sure to do it on an off weekend for you PA boys. Its at the 2001 national site. About 45 minutes north of the border. If anyone wants us to send them club info and schedules just email me addresses and I will get the info out. Aaron

I think it was possible they didnt have a chance to look up and see the marker. Some people got down that section of loop a lot quicker than they wanted. I didnt see any problems though. Hit it all 5 times. Fun section, good event, well worth the trip. Aaron

I have been trying to hold my tongue but its killing me. Beta quality is second to none. I can say this as a rider and a wrench. I wont argue that the Montesa folks do a nice job but to say its better is crazy. The only part of the Montesa that is better, that I can see, is peoples opinions do to the link with HRC. A huge amount of the people I see carring the Montesa banner have never owned or worked on one. Maybe I dont keep my Betas long enough but after I set my bike up from new, about a 3 hour job, I wash it, keep a clean airfilter in it, change tranny oil often, and ride it. I rarely ever mess with it. It does not even foul plugs. Yes they like good gas and oil along with being reved out often, so big deal. Unlike many of you at any given time during the season I usually have 1 or 2 of the other brands hanging out in the trailer. We quite often take the other bikes out after events and ride the sections to see the differences. I have converted quite a few riders over to Betas that way. I also get to spend time working on the other brands at events. All I can say is I can have a carb out of a Beta, jets cleaned or changed, floats adjusted properly, put back together for a test ride before most have pulled enough parts off there bike to get to the carb. I never have any issues getting fasteners to line up, and bottom line is its nice riding a bike that does not stretch out over time. I know and appreciate the fact that we are all entitled to our own opinions. I also would agree with the fact that all the brands, with a good rider, are all very capable machines. The nice part about having 5 different choices is there is something for everyone. I do however wonder how much experience many of the folks with such strong opinions and commets actually have with the products they commet on. Aaron

I am leaning toward the way rich side also. How is the muffler? Has it been repacked lately? If it is all plugged up and "gooey" that may give you some insight on how rich things are. Aaron

I have had a 270 Rev for every year one has been made. I pop the carb and adjust the floats by eye right out of the box then ride the bike for a season without ever having to change the plug in most cases. My bike always runs top notch. I have had National riders ask how my bike is set up because it runs so well. Yes, out of habit I park it up hill if it is going to set for a time, big deal. It always starts anyway. One thing I will say is Betas like good gas. The second thing is they like to run. If you are the type of rider that idles around and lugs the bike all the time you need to pop it up into 3rd rev it up good with the clutch in and the rear brake on hard. Keep popping the clutch a little to bring the revs back down quick. She should always rev clean to top rpm. If it will not adjustments are required. Aaron

Thank You.

Anyone have a phone number or address for one Scott Burghart? I believe he is a New Jersey boy. He normally rides our Vintage series here in NY, starting April 22, and I cant seem to find his phone number or address to get him this years schedule. Thanks, Aaron

Alpinestars by a mile evey time. An additional ankle brace cant hurt either. I have the same problem. Aaron

I think you will get a kick out of our series Pete. Its always a good time. A lot of folks are enjoying this more than the present modern events. A lot less money tied up along with less chance in hurting yourself. My present bike is in the works. Me and Walrath are doing what we call NTA Cycles. Thats the company name. I can tell you more on that next time I see you. Anyway the frame is perimeter style built from scratch with Cromolly tubing, custom exhaust, swing arm, gas tank, air box, and whatever front end you might like. The sky is the limit. Our bikes are only limited to drum brakes , air cooled , and twin shock for competition purposes. Im using a 200x motor, going 4 stroke for a change. A quick look you might think you saw a Gas Gas with twin shocks. We are aiming more towards the ITSA instead of ARMA. To many restrictions in ARMA. Right now we have 3 TY 250 based NTA bikes competing. Two 4 stroke 200x powered cycles will be ready for the start of the season this April along with #6 which is TY250 based and is on the frame rack right now. See you and the old Bull out in the woods this spring. Aaron

Hey Pete, I am doing my 3 part Vintage series again this season. We will run in affiliation with our new club NTR ( Niagara Trials Riders). The events will be ; Corning NY April 22, Warsaw NY August 26, and Corning NY October 28. Come on out its been a while. Year end number plates and a big old picnic after each event, its a good time. Aaron

Probably many will disagree here but this is the story to the best of my knowledge. The letters vary depending on make except a R at the end means Resistor. If you are not running a radio this should not make a difference. The numbers do not vary from manufacture. They correspond with the heat of the plug. By heat, that only means how quickly the plug reaches operating temp, not how hot the plug runs. I believe a 5 reaches temp quicker than a 7. That is the difference. Aaron

On my third pair. They last at least 2 seasons very well. Would not consider buying any other boot. Aaron

For any of you that think Beta will wait for some orders and then build to fill orders that would be completely different from how they do business. They are a production line facility. The line is set up for an individual model then all the orders for the season are knocked out. The line then gets changed for another model and so on and so on. They are not built on a table in a big open room like the others. Importers have to submitt an estimated order for their next season many months ahead of time. For Beta to do it any other way would be a complete change in the way they do business. To my knowledge they are the only trials bike built this way. Even though they are considered a small company if you have a look at their complete product range they offer a huge amount of products. Trials bikes are just a piece of the puzzle. Aaron