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Just so you know there is such a thing as Nylock bolts. They actuall have a nylon plug machined into the lower threaded portion of the bolt. Work great. Aaron

For my TY 175 I just used some flat stock and made my own peg brackets. It is really quite easy. Now my TY will take any moder peg. Aaron

I have used ATF type F in all my Revs, 00,01,02,03, and was very happy with the way my clutch works. Never a problem, and I use the clutch hard. In talking to the Comos, US importer, they said I really should use a 75/85 like the factor calls for. Now I use Ipone and seems to work fine. The only reason I was told to not use the ATF is do to the fact that with the tight tollorances of the Rev motor the you need the thicker oil to create the proper spacing with all the internals. Motor life can be compermised with ATF. The Ipone is more expensive than the ATF but if you are planning on keeping the bike for a while maybe it is cheaper in the long run. Aaron

Thanks for the replys. It seems clear to me that so far all are in favor of the TDN. The only thing I might add right now is that I never said I was against it. All I wondered was given the present circumstances is spending money on the TDN in our best interest for growing our sport? The answer may very well be Yes. Or, could it be possible to put those funds to better use dirrectly towards our own World Champion. If you want to spark some interest in the youth here in the US show them how we can have Lampkins and Ragas in the states. Its been over 20 years since we were competive in the world arena. That just makes me consider the fact that maybe we are not doing all the right things to get a new world champ. I totally believe we have the talent. Look at Geoff Aaron. If the same money that has been spent to send him to the TDN over the years was spent just to keep him in Europe for training where might he have gone? Once again these are just some thoughts. Over the last few years I have watched the sport struggle a bit around my clubs. I am aware of the fact that you will have these cycles. Our club has been pretty strong since it started in the early 70s. We have had a good club with 25 members and a good club with over 100. We have produced a few of the top national riders along the way. So can we here in the US take it to the next level again.

Just a question to think about a bit. I am wondering how important we US trials riders feel it is to send a team to the TDN each year. Myself, I have not decided but I will explain a little bit of why I wonder. I dont know the shape of other clubs in the US but we here in D4 are struggling a bit. We were down by 40 plus riders most of the season. Our funds are getting low to the point that we have not seen since the mid 90s. We are looking at ways to cut costs and bring in a bit of operating cash to keep the club running. The next thing I wonder is what good really comes of us being at the TDN. No riders that we are sending can compete with the top riders in the world and the little time spent riding with them seems rather expensive for the returns. I guess the bottom line of my question would be could we not better spend our money at home. Our club is organizing an event to raise money to pick up some of the slack for TDN funding. We really could use that money in our club but we are trying to do our part. Other clubs raise huge amounts of money every year for the event and I dont see much benefit to them or trials in the US. Importers also help pick up the tab and I am not sure what they gain right now. Would it not make more sense to spend this money on land for our clubs in order to protect our sport a bit? The other thing I could see is setting up a fund to help some new upstart here in the states go to Europe and ride with the best. Maybe we could help make the next number 1 in the world trials rider. This might bring a new face to our sport here in the US. Anyway, just wondered how some of you felt about this?? Aaron

For either peg contact Dwain English, of Bottle Run Xtreme, at 570 327 1115. His web page is www.bottlerunxtreme.com. Aaron

Those are it. You can get them with 3 different offsets depending on what you like best. The outer band is not as strong as the Hebo but thats not a bad thing. If you smack them hard that outer band soaks up the hit leaving the important parts unhurt. You can take the band off and smack it back into shap or just put on a new one. Smacking a one piece footpeg back into perfect shape is not a very easy task. I like the larger bearing surface and the fact they come with a 1\2 inch backwards offset. Aaron

Hey Ron, Andy told me he ran into you. We do like our Betas but basically like Trials in genral. We would love to make the TTC National but its not lookin good for me. Andy is still a possibility. I will look forward to meeting you sometime anyway. With as much riding as I seem to be getting I will have to find out from you how the 04 Betas are working. Aaron

Skip the Hebos and jump up to Jpegs. They are a little more expensive but much nicer. I have seen destroyed Hebos in our club. They seem to have a limited number of bends in them. This is in no way a shot at the Hebo pegs. I think they are the best stock peges any bike comes with. Probably my favorite part of a Gas Gas. I just dont believe in the indistructable part. The Jpegs have a replaceable outer band that comes apart with 4 allen screws. If they get damaged or dull over the years you can replace the worn part. Aaron

Its quite different. It started production for the 2000 season along with the Rev III bike. The top end is changed from the Techno, more compact , better cooling. The bottom end was made smaller and lighter. Overall width was reduced. Internals were lighten but in such a way as to not sacrifice strength. If you look at a gear in a Techno it will be a solid hunk of metal. That same gear in a Rev will look like a car wheel, drilled and slotted. Same strength, less weight. Overall the Rev motor is just a more refined and powerfull version of the Techno motor. Aaron

I cant speak for the 250 but the 04 270 is anything but flat. For the first time since I have owned a Rev I am concidering going back to the slow throttle. I have never been on a bike that hits like this thing does and I make a habit of riding them all each year. We never seem to have 250's around. Most people opt for the 270's around here, same price. I have ridden a few over the years and the only problem I had was not twisting the throttle enough when the bike had a slow throttle on. They have always seemed to have great power. Aaron

That would be a 96 and they were a pretty good bike. Finally had a strong frame. The bike was much less prone to problems and the motor finally produced enough horses to be comparable with all the others. Too bad their past had already done them in. I asked Avala about his experiences with the 94's and he just smiled and shook his head. I guess the bikes got excellent traction but they just didnt have enough power to pull any kind of a hill climb. It sounded to me like the bike cost him additional world titles.

Thats exactly what I mean, Thank You. I was starting to think this was something I had imagined. So now the question remains weather or not any made it into the public? Aaron

Back in 97 when I got into this sport I had a look at a little piece of liderature that showed the 97 Fantic. It was painted up very much like a 99 bultaco sherco, or whatever they call their bikes. Anyway, I was advised to stay away from them and forgot about the whole deal. I just wondered if a few of them ever made it to the public. Aaron

I have nothimg against Renthal bars, in fact thats what I use for replacement bars but over the last couple years within our club, Renthals seem to be the only bars that actually break. Everyone bends bars every now and then. Half those guys straighten them out as good as possible and continue using them. Not something I recommend. In the 02 season a buddy of mine just put a new set of renthals on his Monty for a event. Part way through the day at a fairly easy Expert section his season ended. The finish was across a deep gap you had to splatter over. No big deal really. When he pulled back on the bars the one side broke clean off at the cross brace. As he crashed into the other side of the gap out of controll he ended up breaking his leg along with other minor abrasions. These bars had about two hours on. A few other people have had more similar experiences as your son where their Renthal bars gave up in a place that was no big deal. You just cant imagine why it happened but were thankfull that it happened where it did. In my experience you should change bars after they have been bent no matter how minor. Also just like any bike maintiance you should always have a look at the bars. Check around the bends for stress marks. You will see them if you look close. If you start to see several forming than a bar change is just good insurance. Good Luck, Aaron

Thats the only time I ever have two brand new tirers on my bike so it cant see it hurting. Aaron

It should be no different than the 250. Same motor. Less material in the jug, bigger piston. That is the major difference in the 2. Aaron

I had mine off my 03 at the end of the season and had no problems putting it back together. You have to really take some nasty hits to make it a bad job going back together. With the Beta and Montesa the frame does not tend to grow with heavy use like some of the others, so short of a slightly tweaked bash plate things line up well. If all you intend to do is thread lock the bolts just do one at a time. You will have no problem. We do not have very rocky ridding around here but I have never had a problem with rounding off the back bolts. Aaron

Fully synthetic at 80:1. Thats what I have run in all my revs and never have had any problem with any type of buildup anywhere.

Anything that happens to the section after the front axle is out has nothing to do with the score for the ride. I would have given the clean.

I dont keep the fact that I am a Beta fan any kind of a secret. I also dont make a habit of running other brands down. Basically I could care less what anybody thinks of what bike I ride or what they ride. With that being said I have noticed something interesting in my area of the world with my fellow riders. People have been asking me what I will switch to when the 4 strokes take over. They immediatly go on to explain that Betas 4 will be crap and I will not be happy with one. I have to admitt that I have not heard many details on the Beta 4 and they dont have the resources of Honda and Yamaha. However, Beta is a quality company that is rather diverse. For someone to tell me that the Beta 4 will suck but the Sherco is going to be great blows my mind. That is not a shot at Sherco its just pointing out the fact that Sherco is not as big as Beta. So far, in the circles I travel, the opinion seems to be for some reason Beta is in trouble with the 4 strokes. Why Beta over any other brand I dont know. It just seemes odd to me that all the sudden fellow riders are going out of their way to point out to me that the Beta 4 will suck. They may not be HRC but they build a 2 stroke that is every bit as good as the HRC 2 stroke if not better so I dont see whats stopping them with a 4. So with all that being said I was wondering what anyone else has heard and what the word on the street is over the rest of the world. Aaron

Not that it will help on the earlier bikes but on the 2004 they added an extra midpipe mount to take some of the stress off the other. Looks like a good solution to the problem. Of the 5 Revs I have owned I have only replaced one midpipe mount. I dont know if it helpes but I make a habbit of not picking the bike up by the exhaust pipe like so many people do. Aaron

I have spun a wrench on each make at least a time or two. From experience they all have features that make some part of them better and worse than the others. With that being said, if you are talking genral maintiance, there is nothing easier than a Beta. Two screws for the airfilter, two for oil changes. On either operation here you do not need to touch any other part of the bike to handle the task at hand. Same with the carb. No disassembly needed. On top of that I dont find the Beta to need much to keep it in top shape. Aaron

If more people had the opportunity to test the bikes like you had I think a lot more people would switch to Beta. I love the Revs. Have not even concidered changing since my 00. I have not had a chance to ride my 04 yet but it looks good in the Garage. For Christmas have someone call Bottle Run Xtreme and get you a set of Jpegs for the Beta. They will move your position back about a half inch and also lower slightly. You will also love the feel of a wider pege to stand on. Good Luck with the new bike. I know you will love it. Aaron

What happened to Rays bike? Did the problem have a part in where he finished? Have not been able to find much info on this event. Thanks..