michael_t

the terminology might be an issue are you trying to do this which I call a rollup: Or this which is what I call a double blip/zap

I am far from an expert but from playing the video over and over again I would say that is more of a roll up technique than a double zap/bleep... from the sound of the bike there is just one blip of the throttle not 2 and the bike isn't jumping up it is rolling up. The front wheel is just grazing off near the top of the rock which is great roll up technique and is allowing the front of the bike to get enough hight so the bashplate doesn't hit the rock which seems like a great techniques for that particular obstacle. I believe a double blip would require you to slow down a bit and really drive your front wheel into the rock much lower so it compresses your front and rear suspension, then once the bike starts to rebound back give it the second blip of throttle and hop to the top of the rock. You could try standing at the rock without your bike and just hoping yourself with both feet to the top of the rock and then think about the fact that you need to hop yourself and the bike to the top of the rock... you really need to squat down hard and compress everything to get the energy to hop you and the bike up on the rock. if you try to hop up without first bending your knees and squatting down it is super hard to hop up... I am lousy at double blip but there are lots of videos out there and that is what I have gleaned from them... hope it helps - give it try and post another video if it works (or doesn't )

here is another take on a rear wheel holder... I would say I find it simpler to practice hopping the front wheel while moving (slowly) so you don't have to worry so much about the static balance part of the equation just drive along and hop the front wheel as high as you can and from left to right to get the proper knee and body motion and the flow of one hop into another then apply the back brake stop and toss a few hops in and get moving again if you start losing balance (instead of dabbing)… can do it in circles if you are tight on space :).

A great Canadian trials rider...

Sounds like fun... Probably worth posting on adv rider http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/trials.73/ and Trials Canada as well...

I didn't see any advertising for this one but it looks like a great time was had by all !

Wow you are seriously out of touch with reality... Steve and I are both way past our prime as far as participating, I will give you that but we are both very passionate about growing the sport for the up and coming younger riders. Both Steve and I are heavily involved in putting on events on different ends of the country. Just last weekend I put on an indoor demo at the local motorcycle show in conjunction with Honda's red rider jr training to encourage more young people to get involved. Guess what the first question I was asked by the show organizer ... "do you have insurance" to which I was able to reply the same I do to the 6 local landowner whos properties we put on trials events at - "Yes we do! $5M in liability to cover the landowner." - I don't really give a sh!t about what anybody else in the world thinks. I do care that we are able to continue to put on events in our local area and we are making a concerted effort to improve the sport locally, nationally, and our riders are able to compete on the international stage if they so desire. The past Canadian distributor is a great individual and has been extremely supportive of the sport of trials in Canada - pretty hard to build the sport without access to bikes! You are not truly suggesting OSSA going out of business was in some way the distributors fault are you? The role of distributer in Canada is far from easy - ask anyone that has tried (I know 4 personally and consider them all friends) I wish somebody would pickup Sherco as a distributor but it is a lot harder than you might think. Sometimes fossils have a lot of very valuable history to share I wouldn't underestimate them if I where you. BTW - Exactly what have you done to improve the sport (ever) ???

Hey Steve, A good PR person would be awesome. In the past I would typically just asked Marilynn directly and she has always been very friendly and forthcoming. This was the last notes we exchanged back in 2016 in relation to CMA supporting international events... Great news if CMA has changed this position. From: Marilynn Bastedo To: Michael Traves Subject: RE: information sharing That’s fine and never expect to be thanked. It seldom happens. Marilynn Bastedo, CEO Canadian Motorcycle Association Website: www.motorcyclingcanada.ca From: Michael Traves To: 'Marilynn Bastedo' Subject: RE: information sharing This is what is currently posted (I have removed the dates and contact info)… please let me know if you are okay with it… Marilynn agreed that I could share our my conversation with her so as far as supporting TdN goes... The CMA has never been able to provide funding for any of our international team projects and there is a policy that stipulates that they can't even if we had the money. The reasoning behind this (many years ago) was that if funding is available it should first be provided to projects within Canada and which would benefit more of the members. But on further discussion (as I noted before) if additional funds are raised (outside your $80 CMA Fees) then: ... Priorities TAC is looking for funding for. are - support for riders to attend the CMA National Championships support for riders to attend the FIM North America Championships support for riders attending the Trial des Nations. I did make an effort to find support for these priorities but people preferred to support local efforts. I will continue to look for support for these priorities although some times it seems a little thankless. Regards, Michael

Hey Steve, who is sitting on the current TAC? I haven't seen much news recently other than you and John working on the FIM NA initiative.. I didn't realize that Marilynn was FIM pres for all of NA - When I spoke to her before she said CMA would not support events outside of Canada but I see she was a member of the Jury for the TdN last year has CMA changed their position on out of country events (or was this in relation to her FIM NA role) ?

Put on a little demo at the motorcycle show this Saturday and Sunday. Had a great turn out with lots of people asking about the sport ... good fun was had by all! https://dualsport.smugmug.com/2018-Ride-Reports/Trials-Exhibition-2018/

Yep ! no argument from me ... I guess time will tell and my guess is nothing will happen anytime soon.

Interesting indeed... Probably worth noting that this is about "ALL" off road motorcycling not just trials. MCC is backed by all the large bike companies that put money from each bike sold in Canada into a pool to support the MCC as far as a I know it does not include GG, Beta, Sherco, Vertigo, TRS... etc. My sense is (no facts to back it up) this is way more about KTM, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, BMW... having a cohesive country wide race program through their current provincial off road organizations that they already support (I used to be president for NS) . It does say they want to work with all organizations to make this happen (something I have always supported). Unfortunately CMA has a policy that they do not want anything to do with bike manufactures (that is a fact). FIM seems more than happy to work with well funded organizations for the benefit of the riding community - It will be interesting to see how it plays out. End of the day Trials will be a small part (TAC is 3 or 4 people with CMA and WTC is about the same with MCC) but if we work together (especially with Honda now on board) this may very well be just what is needed to reunite the sport. I am just on observer but figured I would toss in my .02

These are a bit on the short side but always happy to see more training clips out there. Kind of fun to see the Spanish version as well...

Just curious did you have a place to ride when you bought your bikes ? are you losing local riding area or did you move to an area that has less places to ride. ATAQ seems like such a large well run trials club and the FQMHR advertise over 10,000 km of off road trails accessible to off-road motorcycles... probably hard for guys in the UK to even imagine that amount of trail :).

Actually only 70 riders but still a great turnout !!!

There are tons of threads on how to build the sport if you look under the Canada section of this forum there are some Canadian specific issues discussed - size of the country and the great divide between World Trials Canada (WTC) and the Canadian Motorcycle Association (CMA) - which is Canada's FIM affiliate. There was an event in Ontario last year that had about 90 riders (I think it was hosted by Dual Sport). There are a couple of great riders in Ontario that I'm sure would be willing to help you out. I'm sure once you attend a few events you will gain a better knowledge of the local challenges your particular club may have. Don't worry about getting flats - nice thing about trials events.... you are never far from your car :).

It shouldn't be an issue but give it a try before you buy... You could always consider a GG contact with electric start as a starter bike.

I would note.... probably better to post questions like this under the "training techniques" section of the forum.

If you can get somebody to take video of you giving it a try it could help you to analyze how you are doing.... and if you post it I am sure lots of people will have opinions. You may not have seen this video as it is a guy on an enduro bike but he does explain the timing pretty well...

just found this one out there on the interweb.... thought it may help.

Not sure on the personal side of things but as a person who puts on events trials are not considered a "timed event" or race they are considered more like trail riding on a dirt bike or an ATV compared to racing an Enduro or MX type event. I would certainly think it would be worth asking the question... the insurance company I work with understands the risk of serious injury is much less when it is not a "timed event" (that is there terminology). Do you knw how much more you will have to pay for your coverage based on your answer? If it doesn't cost you anything extra I would call it a motorsport and then if you ever do decide to get into a race with somebody you will be covered. The tricky bit is finding a person at an insurance company that has heard of trials before!

Hope everyone has a very Merry Christmas and may all your loved ones (or Santa) find the bikes, parts, and riding gear that you put on your Christmas list.

LOL thought you might enjoy that... I figure if you aren't living on the edge you are taking up too much room. - Feel free to hit the "report post" button !

The way I read it he was trying to comply. I don't know the guy (don't even live in the same country) I just liked the fact that he was very knowledgeable and willing to share his expertise on issues such as this at no charge. I never had any issues with any of my GasGas bikes and have now switched to Sherco so personally I don't really care - just felt it might be helpful to let people know that he is still out there on other forums - He is no longer with GG but I believe he still may have one of the larger stock piles of parts.

I didn't think they were even available last year... I did see some pictures of a new 2018 but not sure where you can buy one?