monteeman

I would be replacing the shaft , lets face it, the seal hasn't just gone has it, something has made it leak, probably the shaft, no?

What used to surprise me was how many people would go through sections with way too much pressure in their rear tyres. Even at places like the SSDT, where most riders should be on top of their game. Maybe they left them high for the road work, who knows? Also, how many didn't realise that the last few miles of road work between sections will have increased their tyre pressure through heating the tyre and the air inside it. .

On my 250- yes , so did I, but theres no getting away from it, I found, but it did help. the 300 is much smoother than my old 250 from first opening the throttle, much more progressive. I was hoping the new 260 base model might be the same.

im thinking of changing my 300rr, and the new 301 is out of my price range. I simply cant justify the extra 2 grand on top of a base 260,, for a 301, and find the 300 can sometimes be a bit too much for my slow riding style, altho I do like the softness off the bottom of the throttle from the 300rr, compared to my old 250s' which I always thought were a bit of an on/off switch to be honest. I was wondering if perhaps the new 260 had this similar softness of the 300rr, and lack of engine braking, but am struggling to find anyone who had ridden the new 260 (2020 model with increased breather size for less engine braking), to find out.. I only really bought the 300 cos it was about the same price as a 2nd hand base 260.

Hello again, I was just wondering if anyone has bought one of the 2020 4rt.'s the base model, or repsol one its meant to have less engine braking. Has it? Anyone tried one? Anyone tried one who had an older 4rt,, 250 or 260? any noticeable difference? cheers

also change out the oil filter when you change the oils, and check the screen for any engine swarf. Also, note the oil from the gearbox is separate to the engine oil. I use the silkolene nanotech engine oil, and have been using the nano tec gear oil, but I preffer ELF Htx stuff mentioned earlier, or silkolene pro srg 75 Also get a spare casing gasket and when you replace the oil filter, coat the gasket in oil first, before fitting, so that when you take the casing off the next time it wont stick to the gasket and rip, meaning another new one. oh and keep a spare o ring or 2 for the oil filter retainer thing whatever its called. oh and leaf blowers make great bike driers

Would any of the above make a "real world" difference, i.e. a noticeable step forward? im just asking because a mate is also looking at a 2016 300ss?

but....but....the new intercooler, its anodised red !!!!! Intercooler In Anodised Red Finish: Helps to keep the engine running at it’s optimum temperature. I didn't even realise that red anodising optimises temps, what a doofus ive been all these years.. don't you just love the marketing men???

Any dielectric grease or silicone grease works well on electrics, clean all connections and apply liberally.

if you get some H&D racing linkage plates, it raises the rear making it easier to hop, if that's your thing...

I also had a 2005 4rt when they came out. it was a great bike. i also had an (07 or 08, cant remember) ive got a 300 now, and they are not a huge distance apart in the real world, but what I would say is that the early ones were MUCH easier to start, none of the re-set the throttle / ecu crap, etc, it just used to start- like every time. i changed the plug once, from memory and the one that came out was ok. Very very reliable, no issues at all, good suspension etc If im being picky- it had a fair bit more engine braking than the newer ones and the exhaust was louder, but you would soon get used to it. I would also say the old 05 one was a bit like an off /on switch when you first opened the throttle, it was a little bit jerky. But just learn to ride it off the clutch and you will be fine. I also had a 03, 315 which I loved, and the 4rt was a better bike, more grip, less likely to spin and steered very similar to the 315, but with better suspension. But overall they are great, I would buy another, especially if its in great condition and cheap, id say get it, you wont regret it

There is a lad on the montesa 4rt fb page with one, seems happy enough with it. the one with the sealed bearings inside it. Well the apico one arrived and I have to say, it looks well made. im just waiting for new bushes for it, as the old ones were toast. its pretty unbelievable how some people can neglect brand new bikes. This one is 2 years old and I would wager that its never even seen a bit of grease.. Im guessing my swingarm bearings are the same...… still at least when its done , i'll know its done..

You would get a better answer if you added some information, like what level do you ride, do you ride sections slow and methodical ot fast, do you hop it about etc etc. there are loads of factors which would help others advise, but I just see the answers along the lines of "my trs is great so you're gonna love it", whereas you might hate it. Me, I wouldn't touch any of them, 4rt all the way.

my personal best was fitting a gsx 1100et, in bits, plus a gsx 750 frame and bodywork, into a vw golf. I also used to get my 4rt into a citroen xzara, after removing the forks and front wheel

Hello, im going through my 300rr from front to back, checking everything out, and have discovered that the rear linkage bearings were least greased, just before it left the factory lol. Needless to say the bearings and seals are toast, along with the top hat bushes. great...…. Looking at the linkage its had a hit to the side, a scrape, which would allow water in at the seal , which wouldn't have helped. I spotted the apico linkages , for 60 quid, complete with bearings and seals, and im gonna have to get a linkage anyway, so I suppose i'll just have to buy the bushes if I go down this route. Question is, has anyone used them? are they any good or would I be better bending over for a original equipment linkage? cheers

I am anoher fan of clice. ive got an old pair and just bought some of the clice cero, discounted to 50 sovs from splatshop. they are pretty roomy, even for my fat ass, and have the added advantage of being half the price of the others mentioned. He only has "extra bloater "sizes left, so I was ok lol. Sarcasm alert -ALtho you will have to face the certain humiliation of having last years colours, oh no, if that bothers you- me id rather have 50 quid in my pocket. the colours aren't That bad either imo, much less fleurescant yellow than most, talking of which , didn't fleoro colours go out in the early nineties, we're not going raving after all?

What is it meant to do, that the standard engine doesn't? Mine starts fine without one, but maybe im missing something here?

Behave.....Chuck Norris built the log cabin that he was born in....

blah blah blah blah. please delete this thread/ remove this post mods. cheers

Yes mate, you are right , it has got the slow throttle tube on it, but I like it like this, because I generally ride sections slower than a lot of riders. I will try it in some sections and see how it goes, but im sure it will be fine. I like it. its also on the soft map, but ive only been riding around the garden annoying the neighbours so far. I noticed the tube colour when I changed out the crappy old grips for my preffered renthal ones last night. Im going to take it to bits and give it a good once over first, it also needs a proper clean. the swingarm spindle and linkages are gonna get a strip down and grease, and im gonna have to adjust the shock and forks to "extra sausages" setting lol. What oils are you all using on these. I used to use silkolene pro SRG75 or elf 740 HTX gear oil before, and the repsol 4t 10/30 engine oil , but things might have progressed a bit in the past 15 years. Any alternative recommendations or just stick with what ive got.

Well, its arrived, and I have to say, its in better nick than I thought it would be (for the price I paid) . I don't think its seen much action in rocky sections, the underside of the pegs are like new and the bash plate too, as is the underside of the swingarm and the linkage.. it has seen some use tho - for trail riding or possibly just for dicking about with. Faults- Im maybe being a bit fussy but; The bottom of the radiator will need a bit of paint, looks like its been blasted by track debri, but ive got a mud flap to rivet on. The LHS fork bottom has a couple of scrapes, but ive put my old Kevlar guards on it to prevent further damage. The LHS fork stanction has a scratch on it, about 2/3rds of the way up, sseal is intact tho, so just cosmetic. Engine sounds good and the power feels a bit softer than my brothers 300rr for some bizarre reason (both 2017 models). its definitely not as snatchy off the bottom as my old 250 4rts, 2005 &2008 models. Alll in all I think im gonna like it.

From what you have said, I wouldn't be buying another one either. How old is the bike, 2 years? Its clearly no developed properly before you are having these kind of problems. it shouldn't be corroding in that time, that's poor, and the fact they wouldn't replace the cdi item is also pretty poor, because its clearly not fit for purpose. I would speak to the importer and see if they will help, or failing that, speak to a solicitor and see if you have a case for making them take it back as its not fit for purpose.

heres a pic of the brothers one, its minter than a pack of polos. I think the original owner posted pics on the 300rr thread. It looks like its done nothing, if im honest, truly like new. Im liking the graphics on this too and prefer the white mudguards, makes it look lighter.

great link, thanks for posting it. pretty serious sections eh?