highland lassie

Maybe you should lead by example.

I agree - there's plenty on here keen to have a go, but not so keen to put their own head above the parapet...but I'm guessing that these same folk would be the ones that would opt not to put their names to anything anyway, so unless it was compulsory it would probably be of little benefit. There seems to be more and more unnecessary personal insults getting thrown about on here in recent weeks, the majority of which are made with little background knowledge and even less intelligence, so one way or another I think something needs to be done to limit it before it gets out of hand. The worst thing about it all is that the guys that are getting the grief are the guys that work hardest to keep this sport going. Surely that can only be a bad thing - they're not going to continue giving up their evenings and weekends and social lives if all they get is this kind of crap, and if that happens, there's only one way that our sport is going...

Is there anything you don't know John?!! Had hoped to get up there for a look, but as usual didn't quite make it....next year!

Bloody 'ell....you're all quite clever....

For anybody who is interested, there is a Newcomer's Guide for SSDT first-timers on the SSDT website.

Ello Stranger! How do?! As you'll see, R2s band of merry men has been expanding almost as fast as TC!!! BTW...I've got a TC fleece.

I wish I could answer....but I'm nowt to do with the P65 so I can't! I'm just defending them because I know how much time and effort they put in, and how little thanks they get for doing so.

Hmph! I liked all your opinions until this thread! Does anyone actually ASK the organisers about all these things, or do you just all gurn about it to yourselves? As Totalshell has already pointed out, there's a clause at the bottom of their form which states that none of the exclusions listed apply to any compontent of any machine which you can prove to be a pre-65 original fitment, or could you not see that part for all the steam coming out of your ears by that point? They're a brilliant bunch of guys out there, and they're in it because they love these bikes as much as you do. Get up there, have a blether with them and enjoy yourselves...it might improve your humour by next year.

Er....because they don't grow on trees? Who do you think should be paying for them?!

Oh, I stick to the rules alright! However, I've got nothing to do with the P65 trial - I'm only posting the entry forms on their behalf of as they don't have access to do this themselves yet. I know absolutely nothing about P65 bikes so can't even pretend to comment for them...sorry! What I can tell you is that the trial is run by a very small team of extremely hard-working people who give up their own time and money to make sure this event goes ahead year after year. No matter what they do, they're never going to be able to please everybody, so whilst you're free to give your own opinions on how you think any trial is run, spare a thought for the guys and girls that give up most of their spare time for nine months of the year so that you can have your couple of days in the hills. Daylight hours. It's the same with the SSDT - we could easily fill double the number of places we've got up for grabs, but we have to make sure that we've got time for all the riders to get back in daylight - and remember that includes observers and backmarkers who have to wait until everyone is off the hill. Believe me, if we could take more entries, we would! It would save us a whole lot of grief!

For those of you who are entering the trial rather than slating it, the entry forms have now been added to the main SSDT article on the front page...

Cheeky sod! P65 forms have been on our site for the past two years! AND I posted last year's results as soon as I got them....typed them up myself actually! Hmph....

Just a quick note to let you all know that the entries for the Kinlochleven Pre-65 in May are now open...you'll find the forms on the SSDT website if you're interested. Update : The website address is www.ssdt.org!

Complete coincidence... BTW, P65 entries are now also open - see SSDT site for forms.

Entries are now open, for all you lazy sods that don't bother reading the front page.

Yup - Top Gear won't be the same without the shiny white grin....we need him back on there quick smart!

Pot, kettle, etc....you've been gurning on here all day!

Oi! I take umbrage at that! I was particularly careful, and YOU were eating them too! Hmph.

Yer alright - we're only winding him up! He's got nae mates this year, so if you're brave enough, go for it - it makes all the difference going to sections with someone who knows where they're going (and where to park!)

We are, but we fullly expected you (in your role as chauffeur) to hang about until the last man was off and then deliver us safely back within five hours. And as for the spare seat...I think you forgot about Em!!vvOnly kidding btw, am going to try and get my heap of a car round the main sections myself - have enrolled Perce's kids to help push me out of the mud on the start field... Will you miss us? I like your thinking!

Hmph! Take it we're dumped this year then?!

That's him! On a personal note, we'll really miss Mr P around the office in SSDT week - he was always keeking round the door on his way past with some nonsense or other, winding us up or someone else up. He always had time for a laugh no matter how late he'd been on the hill or how early he'd been out in the morning - the place won't be the same without him.

For once, I agree with BS! How's about a "Thanks very much for making sure we hear about it first" to John instead of a gurn about how it's worded?!

He's in denial....

I'm not as daft as I look you know! I'm claiming that prize methinks!