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do you know in 20yrs i ve never seen a mad rider. the rule on flags as evidenced above is crystal clear you move it your penalised, sure you can touch it but cause it to be re positioned and your bang to rights.. never seen anyone get mad over it we all know when riding if we ve ridden a section properly
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castrol list a747 as a lubricant designed specifically for '' multi barreled air cooled racing two stroke engines''
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i think what i'd do if i lived in Yorkshire was to get to a yorks classic trial, theres everything from fantastic drayton bantams to stuff lads have built from standard bikes. bring a camera and ask lots of questions..
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ho hum. plug is a 'little' less furred up and inlet side of carb is dryer though not dry but bikes performance is down the pan. ticks over nice low speed running nice but runs out of gas on 2nd gear climbs it used to ignore. disappointed.. still theres alwasy next weekend!
got to get back in the garage and attempt to get my James front wheel pointing the right way..
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trying to reduce 'hobbies' expenditure in cash and time at the moment, so only once a month to the footy rather than every game but have upped the riding time ( its only a tenner at back cowm) and will still ride a trial every weekend.
the floats were way out i have also swapped over the choke lever incase that was letting fuel by. a quick ( 15 min tickle round and up and down the drive) revealed the intake side of the carb was dry and significantly less tickover smoke.. a couple of hours at the quarry sat am will be the proof though.
i'd like to get his right as i'd like to ride sammy miller rounds on it this year (sadly not the lakeland former round though this year which was one of my favourites..)
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i agree there were some very handy riders out and thats why i quoted top 10 and 15 scores not first or second so as to give a better picture.
that yer average joe in clubmans on a p65 bike is dropping far fewer than the twinshocks is the main marker to me as thier bikes are generally not as 'trick' as the experts.
riding the fantic i certainly enjoyed the trial on a bog std bike
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My 200 has started running very rich, so much so that the plug needs changing every 15 sections as the bike becomes unrideable. th eplug is dry with heavy black deposits. after Sundays trial i whipped the carb off and the airbox side was sodden in fuel and the rubber from airbox to carb was equally as wet with fuel and oil.
having stripped and cleaned the carb,, spotless as you ask, the only issues i can see are that the floats are twisted and much more than the Dellorto recomended 24 mm. so i ve 'manipulated' them level and they are now 24mm when closed.
i assumed though that as the distance was greater then 24mm then the needle would close sooner and if anything the tbowl would not have enough fuel in it, not too much?
plug is the recommended b6hs gapped at 0.5mm and timing is spot on
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i was advised that as they were electric that it was okay as they are like the electric buggy that my disabled father in law happily rides on the road on the path in the supermarket etc..
HOWEVER digging deeper that is all ILLEGAL as electrcic buggys and motorcycles come to that are classed as mechanically propelled vehicles for which you muct be licensecd and insured to use on the public highway roads paths and anything 20 yards either side of..
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massive twin shocks entry at todays red rode trial.. fascinating collection of bikes including merlin fantic yamaha honda montesa bultaco swm suzuki. the pre65 still largely out numbered the twin shocks 46 v 26.
peformance wise in the hard route the pre 65 bikes out shone the twinshocks easily in pre 65 you had to drop less than 20 to be top ten or 36 to be top 15 in the twin shocks you could drop 27 and 55 respectaively to achive the same place finish
the difference was even more marked but the result was the same in the clubman class, the best placed clubman twinshock would have been 9th in the pre65 class!!
overwhelmingly the majority of the pre65 stuff was specialist gear whilst in the twinshocks mods were few and far between with most bikes stock the only exceptions being forks.. 38mm is the route being taken with a mix of modern monoshock folks and yolks been used under an argument discussed above.. why pay money to have stuff as good as it was in 1980 when you can spend 100 quid at telford and get a complete front end from a recent mono shock.. a bit of alloy welding for the brake plate etc and job done..
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quite by chance i had two of my bikes out in the moors at the same time yesterday.. my francis barnett and fantic 200. the fb is a 2011 bike the fantic is stock. ive never ridden them to compare and contrast but it wasa interesting to note the subtleties.. the fb was significantly easier to ride 2'6'' steps feet up and certainly had more 'guts' low down but the fantic steered a little better and gripped more effectively and the power was more useable at the top of the revs and it has 6 spd and the kicker doesnt bite your ankles..
if forced to choose i'd ride the fantic..
the fantic owes me 810 quid all in the fb.. i darent speculate but i bet i could nt buy a new mono with the money.
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well all throughly discussed deceminated and disagreed about. I have nt riden any of the peaks trials but i will this year BUT i have a big caveat..
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or you could just use a thin feeler guage..
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check out the yorks classic advert page a couple of lads on the trade section have experience.. especially ady brayshaw and paul jackson
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ironically the best i ve seen is an american one.. ryan i think his name is.. moto merlin used to have them
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bike pulled before the end.. seller recently did this with another bike as well i think.. saves ebat fees i suppose but is frustrating if you were waiting to bid high at the end of an auction..
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how can you do a 'slim' seat for a 200/240 the bikes as wide as the QE2?
a nice slim compact tank for a 200/240 would be a must have. I suspect that the plastic has only got a limited life with this ethanol malarky ( and i think the % is due to rise soon) so a nice alloy tank might find a market..
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the cat is long out of the bag as regards p65 although some clubs are at least looking for the cat. for twinshocks though there still exists a genuine opportunity for establishing clear unequivical rules.
two simple classes modified and production break those into capacaties under and over 250 and away you go..
modified..
what ever you want.. that simple enough.
production ..
engine,gearbox,frame,forks,hubs from one manufacturer.. detail below
forks.. bike manufacturer legs, std stantion diameter.yokes from bike manufacturer.
wheels.. tyres free.hubs bike manufacturer.brakes drum, bike manufacturer.
tank.. bike manufacturer or replica.
frame.. main loop must remain as std configuration( ie single loop)
swing arm.. same bike manufacturer.(std width and length) std shock mounts in original position
shocks.. same length as original same number as original
carb.. free must be same size inlet as original, use original manufacturer manifold and original manufacturer airbox.
engine gearbox.. all visible components to be as original bike maunfacturer
using these cirteria any bike gets a ride, mods are allowed even on 'production' bikes but the production bikes will look like they should and the costs of buying building and maintaining them will be restricted and equally acess to the sport will be simple..
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frankly its dying on its feet as a spectacle and a draw.. just look at the size of the audiences on the telly ( and some places only hold 2k
the dominance of one man and the predominace of the same old faces means that if you ve seen one in the last 5 years you ve seen it once why go again.. certainly shows like that laid on by Mart are the way of keeping it fresh but fiddling with the minor rules wont make it any better.. if bou went first and cleaned everything as soon as anyone puts a foot down its game over..
even the SX hasnt been playing to full houses ( the weather has nt been great though) and even though its the most open it s been for years in lites and championship.
i went to a sx race in florida when JMB was riding.. it was MEGA PLEASE bring a round to England!!
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roys a great help BUT dont telephone him on a Sunday!!! he bit my ear clean off.. ( i did get the dating letter within days but he charged extra for calling on a Sunday!)
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including trials thats a reasonable price for something that cost you 5 grand..
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something 'odd' here if you look closely.. i believe the photos show two bikes...
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my villers pre65 does 19 miles not 21 on a ty80 tank full
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at yarkshire classic we have a clear set of rules ( some enough to make you scratch your head i 'll accept) and they have seen the club have a defined base ( we had a resolution to allow members over 80 ride on twinshocks.. which was unaminously voted down after much spluttering and reported heart attacks)
this clear rule set has meant that entries have increased and that bikes have frankly become better prepared and most are now to a concours condition as well as being the best that can be built, we ve also seen a steady growth in younger riders whose ability to ride big 4 strokes like modern bikes is to be applauded..
the secret if you crave sucess is to chose the class and build/ ride a bike appropiately. should bikes like the FB be encouraged absolutely definatley always.. should the sprite.. it does not meet several club rules but would be allowed to ride as a special in championship trials or as non competitive in pre unit trials..
most folk ride for one of two reasons .. to win or to take part.. the former would not ride the sprite as no one gains anything winning the non competitive class.. and would modify the fb as per greeves suggestions to make it competitive in the pre 70 twinshock class..
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i'd visit the trial to get a idea before sending in an entry.. 9x7 plates are the legal sixe but i ve never seen one. as for costs you ll need 8 nights accomadation plus food. plus you have to get to fort william plus entry.. plus consumables.. you ll as a minimum need to allow a couple of hundred for fresh plugs air filters oils tyr etc.. so all in 1200 might do the trick.. thats a expensive holiday of a week..
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fantastic looking machine a credit to whom ever has done all the machining.
my question is why?.
The BSA bantam is a competitive machine and eligible for the greater majority of clubs championships and there are many clear pathways to follow or even divert slightly from to build a competitive machine.
regretably this excellent piece of engineering although welcome at most clubs events would have to be in the specials class.
as for a cooper bantam i have looked in all my contemporary literature and googled it to death but this thread is the only reference i can find to cooper bantams..
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