Andy

You may not be able to see the comments any more, but that doesn't mean to say I can't Again in explanation for those not around when the article was posted, I used to have the facility on Trials Central where people could add comments to news articles. Unfortunately this had to be removed due to abuse, but the comments still exist in the database. What follows is the comments that were posted to the "muppets" article detailed above. You need to start from the bottom and work your way up to follow the train as that's how they were presented. It makes interesting reading. Didn't make me change my mind, but makes interesting reading anyway. All are posted as they were originally and are totally unedited. All I've done is go through the comments and make the headings bold so they're easier to follow: Comments to article Bigfoot wrote on 16.05.2006: I agree with the majority is that you just shouldn't be there if you aren't a registered rider or official of some sort. I've watched the SSDT for many years and never thought about taking my bike off road to the sections. Many of the best sections are easily accessable from the road after a short and pleasant walk. I'm not sure the police or clamping is a real starter. Clamping is not legal in scotland as far as I know and the police cannot easily get involved unless the land owner complains about damage to his/her property. 2fargone wrote on 14.05.2006: Hi all, nobody can or should expect the organisers to do anymore than they allready do, the notice on the gate should be suffice.The problem is pure simply ignorance on the part of the so called 'muppets'and the only way this can be overcome is by education, maybe a full page in the front of the programme warning them of the extreme consequences this irresponsible behaviour will ultimately have on these historic events.Alternatively let them all ride up to pipeline in their droves just don't let them out because if I remember correctly there only is one way out. On a slightly lighter note if all else fails, try all new 'CILLIT BANG' it removes everything according to that noisy bugger on the telly! Scorpa3 wrote on 13.05.2006: I believe that Police involvement is the only realistic and (more importantly) safe way forward. Any private person taking action would be likely to break the law themselves. Plus, you never know who you are stopping or messing with; there are some very nasty people out there. Leave it to those who are paid to do the job. Slapshot 3 wrote on 13.05.2006: Hi Atomant, The police are present at these two events every year but purely in traffic control mode.Don't know what it would take to get them to do more and would it cost the organisers more money. Additionally, there are some technical differences in Land Use and legistlation in England and Scotland, may not be that straightforward. Hopefully it is, would sort out the muppts really quickly Atomant wrote on 13.05.2006: I have just spent some time researching current legislation and I have found out that the police under the police Reform Act, now have new powers to seize motor vehicles used illegally and either impose heavy fines or send the machines to the crusher! What would it take to get some police presence at the event? HL wrote on 12.05.2006: Like the clamping idea Totalshell...not sure how many clamping companies would trail out to Guanach Gorge mind you!!! Stopping sections is definitely no-go as far as the SSDT is concerned - apart from anything else, riders head off at one-minute intervals, and before you know it you'd have a pile up of 270 riders sitting at the bottom of the section waiting for our Russell to stop spouting rubbish and move his bike! The other thing to bear in mind with all of this is that all the observers you see throughout the week are giving up their own time and money to stand out on the hill for eight hours a day as it is - they're not going to want to drag their day out for any longer than they have to, and we're not going to ask them to. We're eternally grateful to them for doing what they do and there's no way we're going to risk losing observers by putting them through that. If the guys causing all the problems took some time out to do a bit of organising rather than hindering, they'd get some idea of the huge effort involved in pulling trials together, and I'm just talking club trials, never mind something on the scale of the SSDT. Maybe then they'd think twice about jeopardising it for ever. Andy wrote on 12.05.2006: Russell - I fail to see how you can turn this against me. I VERY rarely express personal opinion on this site, but when I do it's because something has sufficiently upset or angered me enough to do so. Absolutely, it was a fantastic weekend (as I said), Great Trial (as I said), great weather (as I said) and in an awesome location. It was only spoiled by guys like you blatantly ignoring the requests of the organisers. I really don't see that as me putting a downer on an otherwise great event. I see that as YOU and your kind putting a downer on an otherwise great event. Ask the organisers of the Pre-65, the SSDT or ANY Trial. Do they want my sort of person who respects the rules of the event or do they want your sort with the "Sod the rules and requests, I'll do what I want regardless of the consequences" attitude. I think I may just come out on top on that one... totalshell wrote on 12.05.2006: the p65 was not alone in having these people in attendance on the ssdt i saw mini bikes been ridden up to chairlift! as well as a fair number of pukka endoro bikes this on the west highland way which was busy with walkers as well as trials followers, here we have an opportunity to mix with and impress 'the enemy' a great many of who stopped to watch at chairlift and some even went out of thier way to get off the beaten track to get to ba house and what do some of the trials communiyt do? everything that were ever accused of ride scramblers illegally off road, ride bikes with knobbly tyres illegally on a footpath.. back to how to stop it.. two simple 100% affective ways.. 1. chain up each bike not authorised to be on private land with a 25 quid release fee ( many clamping firms would be happy of the chance of ' aholiday in the highlands' 2 same as in rallying a course opening bike and riding marshalls have the power to stop a section until the offending bikes are removed the greatest distance i walked across country was to the last sections on thursday no bikes there, big hairy bloke at entrance saying 'no bike up here mate' worked a treat.. Atomant wrote on 12.05.2006: The one major serious consequence of riding illegally at this event is if you have an accident. You have no insurance cover; the event insurance will not cover you and you will be subject to being sued. If you were to seriously injure somebody then it would be classed as a criminal offence and subject to a custodial sentence. Why would you want to risk that? Also, as an organiser (albeit on a smaller scale) the hours of effort that these people put in at their expense in time & money for the enjoyment of others warrants some respect from the biking community surely. A simple request to leave the bike at the gate is respected by the majority but disrespected by the few and these few could spoil it for everyone! Please just leave the bike at the gate and walk! Slapshot 3 wrote on 12.05.2006: Russell, you are right we have not thanked the organisers of the trials on here. I was there, I did it personally, face to face, people tend to appreciate it more that way. Your criticism of Andy would be warranted had you not flouted the rules requested by the trial organisers. No-one I spoke to either had a bad word to say about the events, except how disappointed they were that some people thought they were above rules and could ride their bikes wherever they wanted to.... The police should not have to get involved but what do you do, you ask nicely year on year but get ignored, eventually you get hacked off and look for a stronger way of dealing with the problem....Shotgun anyone!!! As for the throttle cables, well you know nothing else has worked maybe having to push your bike a few miles might make you think twice. The event Steward who was handing out the laminated notices on behalf of the club had his hands tied as well, what can they do, take away a competition license might be an approach but it wouldn't stop you in Fort William or Kinlochleven. There is no point you coming on here looking to explain yourself,to give out excuses, pass the buck or seek justification. You broke the rules, you had the balls to admit it (respect for that)but it changes nothing you broke the rules and you have shown no remorse, accept it and take your medicine like a man. Scorpa3 wrote on 12.05.2006: It is deplorable that spectators choose to ignore the official requests from the organisers not to ride in certain areas. However I would be most reluctant to approach these people in any sort of official capacity. I believe the only way to deal with this illegal riding is to take registration details of the machines and pass it onto the Police. Approaching a complete stranger/strangers in the street can be dangerous, never mind in the middle of a deserted trail miles from no-where. Is it worth getting a smack in the mouth for? Or worse? Russell wrote on 12.05.2006: I

BTW, for those have no idea what this is about I ran this article on Trials Central last year. In answer to the original poster's question the "naming and shaming" will be far harder this year, but I will be doing a fair bit of discouragement beforehand in the hope some might listen. It would be nice to see no photos and no need to run this kind of story, but if needs be then I have no qualms about it. These people are selfish fools.

Kenan Sofuoglu (Hannspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR) leads the world into the third round of the World Supersport Championship after an astonishingly effective start to the 2007 season. Having won one race and finished second in the other, he now enjoys a seven point lead and further proof of how effective the 2007 CBR600RR has been in its first season of competition comes from the fact that third place in the rankings is occupied by well-known championship challenger Katsuaki Fujiwara (Althea Honda Team CBR600RR). An unlucky and occasionally dramatic start to the season by 2005 and 2006 champion for Honda, Sebastien Charpentier (Hannspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR), sees the most successful Supersport rider ever languishing in ninth place at present. The obvious talent and determination that characterised his 2006 championship push are, however, expected to propel him upwards at the very next opportunity. Riding a 2006-specification CBR600RR Lorenzo Alfonsi (Althea Honda Team CBR600RR) will be racing at Donington Park for the first time in any form of competition. His excellent start to his 2007 campaign has nonetheless netted him a top ten race finish already, and he holds tenth in the overall rankings after two rounds. In 2001, the last time Donington was used for a World Supersport event, the very first CBR600RR was still under development, but since its appearance in World Supersport in 2003, all three model variants have been stunningly successful at garnering points and prizes. So much so that CBR600RR riders having won every World Supersport Riders

1. You don't need a seperate email address, but you DO require seperate registration from the forums. The two are not integrated and are unlikely to ever be. 2. Hotmail flags the email as spam. There's nothing anyone can do about this. 3. I will be looking to upgrade the Classifieds at some point. The latest version has some better anti-scam measures built in and some other features that appeal.

--> QUOTE(John.B @ Mar 26 2007, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was nt correct at 8 o clock when I posted about the four stroke Sherco (It was showing 7 o clock). Within three minutes it had been changed by your team. Impossible. I'm the only one who can change the time and I was having dinner!

Not sure why this was in the Sherco forum. Time on the forums is correct. Go to "My Controls", "board Settings" and make sure your time zone is set to GMT and "Auto correct DST" is ticked.

That only works if I GET the news. I'm not going to go chasing it. Sherco are selective in their press releases. For example, they send them out when Cabestany is doing well, but not when he isn't.

Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) won this Spanish Grand Prix from Dani Pedrosa (Repsol Honda RC212V) with Colin Edwards (Yamaha) third. In front of a passionate 138,000 crowd in perfect racing conditions, this race was never quite as close as the tight-fought qualifying session promised it might be. Dani hit turn one in the lead from pole with Rossi right on his rear tyre and Edwards just behind. With track temperature at 31 degrees and with a 19 degree ambient temperature the atmosphere was set for a close contest. Especially when Rossi slipped past Dani at the first hairpin to take the lead. Nicky Hayden (Repsol Honda RC212V) was up to fourth after starting from 11th on the grid with Casey Stoner (Ducati) in fifth ahead of Carlos Checa (LCR Honda RC212V) and John Hopkins (Suzuki) in seventh ahead of Marco Melandri (Gresini Honda RC212V) and Toni Elias (Gresini Honda RC212V). Hopkins set an early race fastest lap of 1m 40.938s as he moved up to fifth place, while Stoner dropped back and Melandri charged up to seventh. Dani was hanging onto Rossi comfortably at this stage even though the Italian had set a new fastest lap on lap five. As Dani kept in touch with Rossi, Edwards dropped off the pace and by lap 11 Rossi led Dani by 0.75 seconds while the pair enjoyed a 1.1 second cushion over Edwards who led Nicky and Hopkins by 2.5 seconds. Melandri was now sixth and Elias seventh. The leaders would not switch position now until after the flag, but at mid-race distance there was still plenty of action to unfold behind the podium places. Hopkins fell while holding fourth place on lap 17. This elevated the flying Elias from fifth. Hayden had now slipped back to seventh. Dani pressed on after Rossi but the Italian was in control here. His team-mate Edwards couldn

The MotoGP class served up a typically hard-fought hour of qualifying with Spanish sensation Dani Pedrosa (Repsol Honda RC212V) powering to pole here in Jerez. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) qualified second fastest with another Spanish star Carlos Checa (LCR Honda RC212V) completing the front row. With the 4.423km track notoriously sensitive to temperature changes, grip was not at the level provided during tests here earlier in the month when times were well up on last year

Welcome to Trials Central. Just recently there has been discussion on these very forums about practice areas. Because of the tree-huggers and other bodies dead set on killing any form of off-road motorsport we have agreed to discourage talk in public about practice areas as the info can be abused. Your best bet is to join a Club and I'm sure someone more knowledgable than me on what's available in your locality will be along to advise

Got your PM on this. I'll look into it.

No. I'm led to believe Krash has his own reputation.

Could you translate that into something meaningful or have you just surfaced after 3 months to have a dig?

I don't and have never used it as I don't trust it, but there are many fans of EBay on here so read on... Challenging an EBay Scammer Man admits hacking 90 EBay accounts

It's not dead. It's pining for the Fjords.

Walk? Tha were lucky. Were had to crawl 15 mile naked over t'broken glass just for t'pleasure of working down't pit for 26 hours every day.

The developers are volunteers. Can't sack someone who don't get paid.

I've given up trying to maintain any semblence of order in these here parts. Anarchy rules!

I checked today and the chat system hasn't yet been updated to work with this version of the forums. I'll keep an eye on it.

As round two of what is shaping up to be a red-hot MotoGP World Championship hits Jerez in southern Spain this weekend, a 250,000 crowd is expected. This horde will largely be there to will on Dani Pedrosa (Repsol Honda RC212V), the main Spanish hope for the 2007 World Championship. Dani scored a third place in the opening race in Qatar and now that the series has returned to Europe, he will be looking for nothing less than a win at his

He is. If you look at the front page article I posted tonight he's on a Mont.

For some reason the Trials Central server has taken to rebooting itself at random over the past few days. When the server reboots the bulk of the processes restart, but it is set up so that it does not come back online fully in that the processes that control the backend databases do not automatically start. That is deliberate and intended. It's something I may have to look at again though if this continues. As far as the chat goes, every time an upgrade is done to the forums it needs to be re-installed as it is a modification to the default software. I will get round to reinstalling it at some point.

Okay, even if it is still open and available, now is not the time for complacency. You can't just sit back and think all is fine and will be from now on. There will no doubt be some other individual or group come along probably sooner rather than later and want to shut it down. I still think the tree thing is a good idea. Many motoring groups and car clubs are now looking at this purely in terms of carbon off-setting.

So how should I handle the topics on here saying "Where can I find somewhere to practice in xxxxxxx?" Type a reply saying in order to protect practice areas we don't discuss these things openly on this site, close the topic and allow people to PM them if they want? I'm happy to do that if that's what people want.

For some reason the server rebooted itself twice. Dunno why. I'm away this weekend hence the length of time it was offline for.