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Last time i checked reading in the back seat of cars didnt cause an excess of static build up Seems it was already debunked many years ago https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/721219/Flying-doctor-Motion-sickness.html "Most "cures" for motion sickness are useless. There is no point, for example, in fitting conductive strips to cars to discharge static electricity. Even if static contributed to motion sickness, any static charge on a car would be on the surface, not the interior."

Thats the difference then, i teach science for a living.

The spring isnt a free component, it is bound at the top and bottom. It is attached or in contact with the top of the yoke so to speak. Unless your suspension has an inch gap between the top of the spring and the fork cap, but every front suspension that i have is in a state of preload so the spring is always in contact with the cap. If you use your example of a bike on a stand with the wheels off the ground, the top of the spring does not moves down Its well known that in a conventional shock suspension setup the line between unsprung and sprung lies roughly halfway along the spring

It also raises the centre of gravity (slightly)

Do you follow Scientology?

Not quite. At the end of the day you could argue the whole bike is pressing down on the bottom of the fork slider. The very bottom of the spring is the only piece of the spring that is unsprung, everything else (including the upper windings of the spring) is connected to the bottom of the fork slider via an element of spring, hence its sprung weight

At least we agree on the differences, and only disagree on what we think of the differences. The 280 seems to be a fan among the semi expert, middle of the road kinda riders. The guys i know (mostly semi expert riders) who have fitted the flywheel weight to a 280 swear by them. Out of the box (without weight) i find them a little wicked low down

Not 100% sure on the compatibility. Lineaway will tell you its a downgrade, lol, id say it could be a upgrade if you install a new wavy disc as well. If your ajp are in good working order, you mightened experience as big of an upgrade as you may be expecting

IMO the 280 is a horrible bike, all its power is low down, jumpy, hard to find grip (great for the dry however). All the guys i know with a 280 always end up putting a flywheel weight on it. The 300 has a far superior lower end, torquey and smooth. As long as you dont let it get away from you too much (it can run away with some people above half throttle) id go with the 300. I still dont know why gg make a 280 to be honest. If youre a clubman, get a 250, if youre an expert a 300. And if you really want my opinion, these are the only two you should be considering. The 280 is this weird middle ground, i dont think it even knows what it is itself. It really is starting to split hairs at the difference. All in all though, the difference isnt much, and if youre coming from a 2011 bike, the difference in buying a new bike alone will be a lot greater than the difference between a 280 and a 300

Who is actually the head of the trials division in the FIM? Is his name Sepp Blatter? Regarding the results in Italy.... I take it a protest was lodged? And if so, if it was rejected, then i doubt we will here anything from the sport7 interjection I think all it says is something along the lines of "any person (or gorup of persons including rider, sponsor or even manufacturer) that holds an FIM licence affected by a decision under the authority of the FIM has the right to protest against that decision, except in the case of a statement of fact" So even if that decision is another riders score, so long as it affects you, are are allowed to protest it. I dont know the ACU rules, but id be very surprised if that is the case

Which one, the one this thread is named after or the tyres on our bikes? ? I imagine it shouldn't take long, I guess all they really have to do is track down that observer and ask him why he changed his mind. Anyone know if he's on these forums? ?

Thats exactly it. There used to be a day that a good national level rider could ride a world round, and when the world round came to your country you had at least 10-20 wild cards enter. The trials were every bit as hard if not harder, but werent overly dangerous. Now they are in some cases easier (relative to the bike), but 10 times as dangerous. A WTC trial in the past you could have had martin lampkin winning on close to a 100, and some local expert rider riding the same trial and still managing to finish! Nowadays Toni could ride a trial clean and a good local expert rider would be shipped away in an ambulance! Dont tell me trials in the 70s and 80s werent better than they are now!!! All you have to look at is the number of trials bikes being sold

If this is true, or even remotely true, i think ive heard enough

Thats not the point either! The point is the observer chose to give him a five (whether this is deemed correct or not is irrelevant) and subsequently changed his mind. If he changed his mind because of outside influence (whether that be from the crowd/riders or other officals) then that is whats contestable, and ultimately what the FIM are looking into. We shouldnt be arguing whether it was a 5 or not, we would end up arguing every ride in every trial. What we should be arguing is, should an observers decision ever be changed or overturned, and via what means can it be changed. If the observer has a quick reflection and goes, no i made a mistake, it should have been a clean then ok, or if a rider fairly challenges the decision and the observer changes then ok. But if he is unfairly forced to change his decision then this is foul play. Andy also touched on a point. While the live scoring is great for most instances, would this have happened if the spectators didnt know the exact scores. Did the live scoring contribute to this? I believe it most certainly did. Should live scoring be removed? I think the pros outweigh the cons on this, but it introduces another dynamic. Also, should the observers be allowed to follow the live scoring? Should the riders? Can a rider change his style knowing the current results? In a lot of ways trials used to be about not knowing what your competitors were on and you rode as hard as you could regardless, especially if observing on boards is used like the ssdt and scott

This is kind of irrelevant. Why the observer changed his ruling is the issue at hand. Nonetheless you are interpreting the fim no stop rules incorrectly. You say he never stopped motion however it specifically states a 5 is awarded for ceasing "forward" motion. So hopping sideways is classed as stopping forward motion

This i agree with, although i would add that the italian crowd obviously berated the observer over a decision on a spanish rider (who should be of no interest to them) and in a way brought about the overturning

They are exactly the same issue, because they are intervening on said issue!!! Its a lot easier to say he stopped, than saying he kept moving. And guess what the official cameraman had it all on video!! Total joke. Ive yet to see a football referee decision be overturned and some of them are absolutely ridiculous decisions. This was a decently respectable observing decision and it gets overturned, and it decided a championship

But thats the exact problem. Every observer is different and all you can do is respect their decision. For the FIM to overrule the observer at the perfect time stinks of match fixing. Whens the last time you seen an observer overturned? As for thinking the rider didnt stop, if you were from "old england" id refer you to your local specsavers. He actaully goes backwards ffs

You thought he didnt stop?

The incident is around the 13 min mark

Watch the disputed incident in the latest 26 min highlights and make your own decision How can the FIM not back the observers decision? Absolutely disgusting IMO

The corks are to increase the crankcase compression, pretty standard mod with 2 strokes

My question is more about the FIM or whoever is running it. Were they either; 1. In some form of coma throughout the trial? 2. Witnessed it and totally chickened out from confrontation? 3. Witnessed it, deemed it ok, and the FB posters are just sore losers? Trials has reeked of this type of thing for years, and even the most naive of persons had to have known something 'suspect' was likely to happen. Ive read enough on the internet to feel the championship results tarnished. Either way, i think they or the guy at the top should release an explanation as to what happened. EDIT: Thanks for the redirect, seems this is already being discussed

A gasgas is one of the easiest!!!! At least you can remove its tank

Martyn has to move up in my eyes, another year in trial2 just to win it would be a waste. A return to vertigo for a year may be a decent move