Thanks lineaway he's on with making a new woodruff key out of an old spanner ! He says it needs to be hardened and that's why he's using an old spanner ! I'd rather he bought one but it's hard to stop him when he gets going. Thing is he bought me the bike so I could have a go at trials, says he is not spending a fortune on one till I've proved I can handle one and am going to stick at it , it hasn't ran on full throttle since I've had it !