Rki McV

Check out Pat Smages video review of them on you tube. He sums them up pretty well but in short, they do make a difference

Huh? I’d never heard of it my self until I saw this but for other owners, with 2018/2019 models, saying they have this problem too, it’s a bit worrying when i’m looking to buy a brand new one. I do acknowledge there are tonnes of Evo’s out there and this is only a tiny few people talking about this issue...

So close to buying a new 250 Evo and carrying out the clutch fix and sticking an aftermarket fuel cap on but all this talk of them popping out of gear is really putting me off ?

Ha too right. Im going the other way though and thinking i’ll get the one and drop it a load without scratching all that beauty white paint off!

Is that just because you like the bling of the RR? I still have a feeling im going to end up on a Beta, damn that gear issue that's come to light. I guess GasGas could be an option too but I did want the durability of a Beta or TRS. Test ride time this weekend I think.

Saying that... the 18’s and 19’s still jumping out of gear is a real concern for me. I’d be gutted if I bought a brand new bike and it started jumping out gear. That’s a pretty big problem in my opinion ?

The bikes in question for me will be standard models, no factory or RR models needed just yet and i’m told by the dealers they would probably hold me back a little for being too snappy. I’ve heard the TRS ONE is a really nice smooth beginner friendly bike but it’s no secret that the Beta Evo is the most popular clubman bike on the market, certainly in the UK anyway. Checking any trials results you’ll always see the Beta’s making up most of the numbers from top to bottom so they are obviously doing something right. I’m open to all brand new 2t’s but I have a feeling it’s going to be a Beta with the clutch fix and an aftermarket fuel cap, just because I can get a good test ride on one of those and i’ll struggle to test ride a TRS. As a side note, do the Beta and TRS feel similar in terms of Geometry/riding position? I liked the riding position of the Beta, struggled with the riding position on my Vertigo ?

@al_orange I am in exactly the same predicament. You set your mind on one bike then a common fault pops up like the Beta jumping out of 2nd gear. I must admit though from my recent experience, you need to get a good ride on them and buy which ever one you like riding. I went for the Vertigo after reading almost every section on every modern bike on here and it turned out the bike didn’t work for me at all and i’ve just sold it. I think the geometry was all wrong for me and I just couldn’t throw the bike around like my old Gasgas. I’d rode a 2018 Beta Evo for a full day just before buying the Vertigo and thinking back, I did really well on that. The dragging clutch really put me off buying one of the day though and I wasn’t on this forum then so hadn’t seen the clutch fix. Based on what i’ve read and seen, i’m really hoping the TRS works for me, but i’m struggling to get a good ride in one. I can test a new Beta, GasGas, Scorpa and Sherco at Inch Perfect but they arent a TRS dealer. If one of them feels right though, i’ll buy it and deal with what ever issue it’s known for. It seems any trials bike that’s been around for a while is known for having atleast one common issue. Normally followed by a common fix...

@al_orange I’ve just spoke to Steve Saunders (TRS UK distributor) to get the answer to the same question you’re asking. He explained that although the Keihn carb on the RR does make the bike smoother through out the rev range, it does also make it snappier and he thinks it could be a hindrence for a novice/entry level clubman rider. He said the ONE is noticeably softer in the throttle and suggested I get that at novice level, and maybe even put a slow action throttle on, because i’m coming back into the spart after a long time out. I don’t think i’ll need the slow action throttle but could do without it being snappier than normal. He also said I probably won’t get any benefit out of the other upgrades for a couple of years either, but like you I wasn’t too fussed about that I just dont want the extra bits to hold me back. Hope that helps ??

That’s a good shout! I recently stripped mine down and although I didn’t remove the triangles, I did loosen them to make fitting the rocker easier. Trying to fit the swing arm after tightening them was a nightmare. Loosening them back off helped but your method will definitely be used next time The shocker can actually be removed without removing the rocker on my bike but that’s the 17 Camo with the early geometry.

That bolt looks really worn where the shocker rides on it too. Was it worn or is that just the photo? Reason I ask, i’ve just replaced all the linkage bearings on mine and still have a tiny bit of movement in there. I never thought to have a good look at that bolt. A job for tonight I think...

I know the Fajardo front pipe is different with an extra curve at the head, as well as the reeds and mapping. @telecat may know more. Regarding the suspension @telecat, other than it having the newer geometry like the Verticals, what else is different? Are the springs and settings adjusted to stiffen it up? I often hear how they’re stiffer and more suited to modern riding, but i’m intrigued to know how. Cheers

@jsp Did you manage to sort this? I recently went to look at a Fajardo Rep that I was looking to buy and the owner had been in a similar situation. He was approx 65kg in weight and and he’d got the bike perfect for him by switching to lighter fork and shock springs, switching the fork oil to something thinner and also using a different fork seal that had less friction on the stroke. He could even use the stock settings this way rather than backing everything off to get it moving. A cheap and easy way to get an awesome bike working perfectly if you ask me. Hope this helps if you haven’t sorted it yet.

Thanks @greski Reiger just got back to me too with the following settings: Compression 10 open, Rebound 35 open, Preload 8mm. All pretty close to the Sherco/Pat Smage settings. Will see how it feels and start testing adjustments the same way you did. Thanks for the info

Hi @greski, do you know if these settings are for that shock across all bikes or specific to the Sherco? I'm after the same information for my Vertigo. Cheers