ChrisCH

The xhg summer rides are not very competitive and the beginer's bit is OK. We have a ride on Wednesday evening. http://www.xhgtiger.org.uk/

I run Nano Trans in the Rev 3 with the same results. Hard to credit an oil with so much effect but after half a dozen changes it is a different bike. The cold stick "breaks" after a gentle push in 3rd. A couple of clutch actions remove the last of the stick and the bike rides perfectly. I had intended to do the "fix" but I will not bother now. Bleeding the clutch also made a big difference. I read about the oil on here and have not used any other oil so nothing to compare with other than how the bike arrived with whatever it had in it and whatever it had run before. The cold stick was very bad when I first got the bike and I thought there was a fault with it, so I looked on the Internet and found this forum (thank you everyone for your contributions to this topic).

Thanks I will have another look at it. I put a couple of extra nuts into the mounting point so it has taken it out about 10mm. The silencer doesn't fit very well and this allows it to rotate and the bottom of the oval is still a bit too close to the tyre. I cannot see any additional mounts at the front of the silencer - I assumed it should locate properly but there is nothing for it to butt up to. The missus is at the small obstacle stage and all is fine, but it will give a problem as the rear suspension gets compressed further and harder going forward. I have just been too lazy to give it my full attention if I am honest. I enjoy riding not repairing. Bank hols this weekend so might get a bit more time off and something to do other than be stuck in the traffic

OK. Thanks I will try the SKF items. If your experience has been a similar life span then I can hope the forks are still OK. I will change the bike when I can find a nice Evo as replacement but they don't hang around long enough even to go look at them. I don't want to sell it with a defect and if I can't find what I want we will hang on to it for a while (the Missus loves it). They are nice bikes just that annoying silencer rubbing on the tyre.

There were professionally replaced new seals and new oil. I am lucky that I have a mechanic in walking distance of where I work (and store the bike). The bike will go back to him but I wondered if this was a common thing? Seals are a rare item on road bikes and I am new to trials so want to know if it was a more common thing. I think the rebuild and TiN coating service is a decent price, new forks are nearly 8 hundred and that is way way too much for an old bike like this. Plus that would mean new yokes as the new size is 39mm, so about a grand all up.

My old Rev has the Paioli 38mm forks, now defunct. When we bought the bike the fork seals had "just been replaced" (presumably by the previous owner). After a couple of months or so there was a new leak (R/H). I got a local mechanic to fit new seals as it was cheaper (£45) than going back to the dealer - he reported the fork brace was loose. I therefore assumed the previous owner had been ham fisted. After what is now 6-7 months we have another leak. I cannot see any damage or marks on the stanchions and the forks function OK it is just a bit wet. (L/H only) The black coating is uniform and not showing obvious wear. I assume that the forks will gradually bend and deform over the years? Is this frequency uncommon (bike is '05)? There doesn't feel to be any play in the bushing and the forks are nice to ride, don't sag or anything. The oil was changed and there is no other reason to think anything is wrong. I just wondered if other people find they are also putting seals in more than once a year? I can see a rebuild and re-coating (Titanium Nitride) service for £350 and that is tempting. Very bling gold too. If the coating adds a few microns that should help seal and compensate for 15 years wear. Anyway thought I would canvas a few opinions before spending. Thanks for any feedback.

I have looked all over the Internet. There is an Italian after market item on eBay but the cost (with shipping) is eye watering and I see no reason to imagine it will not wear out exactly the same. New OE item is about 150 notes. On eBay at the minute is a secondhand one with a carbon (presumably look like not real) wrapping. The supplier doesn't list a carbon protector. Again I have read the entire Internet looking for a carbon or other material guard to fit on the inside of the silencer. This is the only thing I don't like about the bike and the only reason to move it on and get an Evo. The missus has now taken over the Rev and likes it for where she is in her riding now. The bike runs nice and does everything but at some point she will start bumping over big stuff and the silencer will be an issue again. Mine is '05 250 and I think the can is probably not the right one (there are two lengths). It wobbles a bit and doesn't fit well on the central box. If it would hold in place then you would get a few mm clearance and it would probably be OK. Also I am sure you could glue a stainless wrap on the existing can that would wear the tyre not the can (tyre is much cheaper...) Shame. These are good bikes and this is a p*** poor design. Virtually every other component can be replaced and - if you want - upgraded. I am sure that with time and money you could adapt a Gas Gas can to fit but by the time you have done all that you have bought a new bike.

I wanted the 250 - like you I am a long way from Mr Raga. (I started trials last October). However they seem to sell in about 30 seconds after being advertised, or are over 4 grand. As the missus has now hogged the Beta and I needed another bike I bought the 280 RR simply because it was all I could get in budget. It has the fast throttle and (I assume) is standard (2017 model). I had eyed up a club member's 250 One for a while as I thought it was a nice bike. The two bikes are different. However, after a few weeks of riding it and getting used to it I have to say I have no bother with it. There is far more power than I need or could ever use but I have never felt it to be something you cannot control. First attempt at a wheelie and I end up off the back with the bike taking itself for a ride. You just need to put a bit less throttle in the mix. You have to pick up your riding skill a bit. But persevere and it is not so hard. On the plus side the power and clutch let you place the front wheel anywhere you like with a one finger clutch movement. That has improved my riding. Weekend before Easter we had our usual Sunday practice session and the ground was nice and dry and the power made climbs easy. I also mastered a half meter obstacle that had scared me before - the first time I managed it under control I hit the sump guard (too scared to put enough power on) but by the third attempt I nailed it. I actually felt that the power was a good thing and it reinforced the view I needed to improve not buy a smaller bike to make up for my lack of skill - the bike isn't the issue, just the rider. I need to put more time in and work on gaining confidence and balance. I don't know if this will help you in your choice, but I would say that you should not be put off if you only find the 280 at the right deal for you. I am happy with my bike and my deal (Lee in Northamptonshire) and I am sure I could sell the bike quickly with only a few hundred loss if I really didn't like it. However, I am now determined to learn to ride the thing rather than just buy a smaller bike or do all the mods everyone talks about - throttle, flywheel and so on, I read all the posts on here about the One vs the RR and bought into the RR as the better, but the better shock is wasted on me at my present level. The Keihin carb and fast throttle are chalk and cheese to the old Rev 3 with Mikuni and slow throttle. I will replace the Rev for an Evo when I see the right deal but it is very OK for the missus at present (she started with me last October). With less power you need to pre-compress the forks more to get the lift and I actually find the TRS "easier" to ride in that respect. I am sure more experienced riders will give you all sorts of opinions, but as very much a newbie and at the start of the learning curve I hope that helps you a little. I was prepared to sell the TRS if I couldn't get on with it as it was the right price and good condition but I will keep it now for sure. One "tip" for what it is worth - I have found Shell V Power runs very nicely in it and now use that 80:1 with Putoline TT pro and use that in both bikes. (Beta is happy on any super unleaded).

I struggled with the neutral for a while (it is essentially the same gearbox and clutch). After using the NanoTrans for a while it is much much easier. I think there is still some drag on the Beta clutches even if they appear to work OK. I have no idea what the NanoTrans has in it or how it is different but I can say that it certainly has made a difference. The old Beta is easier than my new TRS.

I hope so mate. Ours certainly runs a bit "off" after the bike has been wrong way up. My TRS ran a bit "off" after it got the better of me as well and then settled down after a couple of minutes. I wondered if that was a carb issue so i will follow your progress with interest. Hope you get it sorted at the weekend.

Have you checked the float height and looked at the carb issues that are fixed at the top of the Beta sub forum? My Rev 3 ran badly after the bike went upside down. When the carb was removed there was a metal item in it (I think a fragment of a nail) which I can only assume was put in to stop the flooding issue. The mechanic put a new jet in it and cleaned it up and it is OK, but there has been some flooding. The Mikuni seems to be problematic - the fix described is a good start point. I (foolishly) thought on an old bike all this would have been done by at least one of the previous owners. My missus has now taken over the Beta full time and I have bought myself a TRS. Riding the Beta I wonder if the bike revs out properly - the TRS is worlds apart. When she gets to the point that this is an issue I think it is new bike time rather than keep throwing money at a 15 year old bike. Ironically the Beta runs nicely at low revs and the relative lack of power is just what she needs for the time being so it is doing a good job. It also has the slow throttle so that is a factor. i did think about fitting the later Keihin as per the Evo, but it needs a new reed block as well so the overall expense is significant.

Are you sure it is a Sherco? In my day these bikes were known as a Bitza. (sorry)

I fitted a new engine to a Suzuki many years ago. If you send the V5 back the DVLA change the engine number for you free of charge, so it is not a very big problem. The engine numbers in the OP are odd, in that the first three digits look very much like CC. If so then the bike was a 250 which has had a 300 engine fitted later. I don't know enough about the bikes to say if the engine is a "factory" edition or not. I would think the importers could quickly find out. The engine number and the V5 should match - this is a sign that something has been altered. If the engine had been legitimately changed at some point the V5 should have been changed to show the new engine number. I suggest that the OP uses the DVLA system to check the registration number of the bike. It should show the bike's details and that it is SORN (I assume it is), but it will give you the engine CC and taxation class. If it shows as a 250 then you will have solved the mystery, but not what to do about it. https://www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla

Thanks guys. I struggled with the Putoline bottle and wanted a better way. A funnel needs a long enough section to fit in and the one I have was useless. Never thought about a small bottle to decant - thanks for that. The Jitsie gadget is nice and I am a sucker for gadgets.

I don't know if it is helpful, I have just measured the Rev 3 against my new TRS and the spokes seem more or less the same length and i think therefore you could fit a Jitsie rim to the Beta hub. This is the newer rim designed for tubeless. An expensive solution but a good upgrade if the original rims are totally U/S. You would have to be very fond of the old Beta to spend like that. Very cool looking gold rims though!

As the front is tubed there is the possibility for water to get into the tyre without a deflation. The water would then sit there until some reason to remove the tyre. I would imagine this is a corrosion point and one for most bikes. There are some very good modern paints that would address the issue. Assuming the rim is not toast! It would need to be very bad corrosion for s structural failure. This has made me think it is perhaps worth taking off the front tyre and checking the rim maybe once a year so you can put a lick of paint/enamel on it. But - I have to be honest - I am lazy and will forget ?

https://www.trialsbikebreakersuk.com/collections/beta-parts/products/2000-beta-rev3-rear-wheel-with-tyre-disc-and-sprocket Might fit? Earlier model. Worth a look. Likewise https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264139638481

No sin, but surely this is not cost effective? You are taking a tubeless system, rebuilding it to a tubed system then adding an aftermarket tubeless conversion system.

The goo looks like Stan's to me or something similar. If you can clean if off thoroughly and get the tyre bead to seat the wheel should be usable. I have had a long "battle" with my mountainbike as the rims are not really tubeless and the latex has to fill the holes before it all works OK. The theory is the same, an airtight tape to cover the nipple recesses and make an airtight rim. Your rim looks as if it has been done by someone looking for a quick fix. You would need to check the bead seating area thoroughly to decide if it is going to hold air or not, the photo is not detailed enough for that. If the ali is actually degrading then the rim is junk. I rebuild MTB wheels but a motorcycle wheel is a different animal. Would an Evo wheel fit it? I think they are more "tubeless". Or get a secondhand Rev wheel. The wheels on mine are in good order (it is an '05).

Thanks - I did assume that was the correct one but their shop lists the filler - https://www.splatshop.co.uk/jitsie-oil-filler-pipe.html But that doesn't say TRS and nor does it say Gas-Gas (the filler pug is Gas-Gas). So I was/am confused.

The wife had now officially taken over my Rev 3 so I have bought a TRS 280RR for myself. I changed the oil for the first time and the filler is quite small and fiddly. I can see Jitsie do a range of screw in fillers to make the process faster and wondered if anyone knows if any will fit? Their website doesn't list the TRS anywhere. I am hoping the filler is the same as one of the other makes? Cannot see the actual thread listed anywhere. Thanks.

Hope you have a good trip. Careful what you smoke ?

Hmph. No UK venue then. ? Will have to do Belgium. Lots of beer then ?

You also need to factor in the weight of the rack itself. (I think they are about 10Kg ?) Knowingly overloading the tow bar is contributory negligence from an insurance viewpoint. if the back of the car is empty and you don't care about the law/insurance I think the car would steer okay and so on, but if you load the back up then you would definitely notice the reduction in handling. Enough weight that the suspension is sagging and you are asking for a pull as well. Do it enough and you might need new springs too.

I have taken up riding recently. I bought an old Rev 3 for 1600 quid, which is half what I paid for my mountainbike. I cannot believe how cheap motorcycle trials are. My club charges 15 quid for a trial which is about 4 hours entertainment. My ACU licence is 12 quid. A practice session at our local venue is a tenner per rider. I can't tell you how much I regret not doing this much sooner. I would encourage anyone that is interests, old or young, to have a go. I hope once I get my head round the rules and so on that I can help the club out a little. All clubs work like this, a few people do everything. I think it is great for youngsters, we have a good few at the club and I think it is wonderful they are given this chance. I couln't care less if I paid an extra tenner to let them in for free to be honest.