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Ah right , is this the one thats earthed by the air box ?
Under seat by the air box, green wire usually I have been reliably informed!
Big John
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1974 Scott, filmed for BBC television. I think the Two-Stroke Cowboys was a "slot-filler" but the trial was used in a fukll length documentary shown several months after the trial was run.
And yes it's hard to believe they used a helicopter to film it then, even more expensive to do that now as they cost about
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Is that the one in New Hampshire? I rode that one a few years ago. Were there many other pre-65 bikes out?
Doug
No, this is my recent creation from an original 1960 Don Morley factory Trials 350 Bullet. It was last used in the UK in the 2005 pre 65 SSDT. I imported it in Nov 2006 and then spent some time working out how to make it more competitve. The frame was hacked and the swinging arm moved inside the primary case and gearbox, shortening the wheelbase from 55+ to 51. Head angle changed and engine raised to give 12 ground clearance. Yam back wheel fitted and now rear brake, gears, and kickstart all on the right. Will be in action during 2008 as this year it was the Tiger Cub as the main weapon.
On an event note there were several Cub's, C15's and some Bantams.
Are you Flt. Lt. Tony Downs by any chance?
Big John
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Correct 1974, filmed from helicopter, winner Rob Edwards. I was spectating at that event when I was still at school!
Fantastic!
Big John
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Never mind that - I'm just stunned that Dabster has a friend
I am a friend of Mr Dabster! It's not my 4RT he's talking about so that makes at least two friends he's got then!
Big John
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I was very impressed with the whole Scott Trial set up, very professional indeed. Easy to find sections with spectator direction signs which was brilliant. The charity auction I enjoyed very much (even although I had to spend some money, worth every penny). A nice friendly atmosphere, well worth the trip down from the highlands!
Big thanks for a brill weekend from me and the lads.
Big John
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t'beer was awreet at t'creeket club!
Breakfast were even better at AGB's house in't morning!
Big John
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I use 6 inch Renthals (see photo) and they are rolled quite far forward in the clamps, works for me!
Big John
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Believe it or not but I had to forego an invite to ride Cabrianes this autumn from my friend Mr. Greeves!
He had a very nice Bultaco available for me, but due to other committments, I couldn't make it, maybe next year.
Big John
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Which also goes to prove Stu that the British Pre-65 scene has got completely out of hand!
Big John
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Why not give me the RTL roling chassis, I would put an engine in it and try to ride it .
Its a shame to have a bike like an RTL which is sitting unused
No deal!
I'd prefer that '88 motor...
Big John
Sorry, changed my mind, don't need it now!
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Nonsense, I'm working on several projects at the moment, but I would like specifically a 1988 RTL motor!
Big John
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I've got a better idea, replace the TLR200 motor back in the frame it came from and sell me the 1988 RTL motor?
Big John
PS I have a RTL250S 1988 Manual.
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Am I correct in my understanding that Gas Gas was bought out by venture capitalists a couple of years ago.
Not very likely then that Xispa has any connection with gas Gas whatsoever.
Big John
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Contact Al the Spanner at White Bros, Darlington, I know they did an experiment such as that you describe!
Big John
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I am somewhat concerned that there is a direct copy of a production trials motorcycle out there.
A couple of points to make here...
The first Sherco, called Bultaco Sherco 2.5 was similar in design to the then current model Gas Gas TXT, but only similar, I defy anyone who could actually fit engine parts of a Gas Gas to a Sherco or vice versa, that goes for most of the chassis parts too, except of course those that came from an OEM parts supplier such as AJP; Morad or similar items common to a variety of makes and models.
Secondly, there were pesonnel who defected from Gas Gas to Sherco at the development stage, I think similar defections were evident in the motor industry a few years ago e.g. from VW to Ford when the mark 3 Ford Mondeo was launched in 1999.
The advent of the Xispa medium sized trials motorcycle appears to be a direct copy of the Sherco, I would be surprised if parts of the engine are a direct fit and therfore there should be manufacturing rights to defend here.
Long term it may mean a "copy" at a reduced price, but I do think it is a threat, not a benefit to trials riders going forward.
Big John
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Hi Woody, Before I start, please don't take this personally, as I respect your postings on here.
The Sherpa N was a trail bike produced by Bultaco, it was never a trials bike. It is simply a very lame excuse to ride a Bultaco in the Pre65 Scottish trial. We all know perfectly well that Tommy Ollerton rode a Bultaco in the SSDT before Sammy Miller did so in 1965, history records that quite well, photographic and otherwise. However, the whole spirit of Pre65 trialling was to bring out the old bikes to get them working and have some fun. It has developed into something quite different and what has been happening is the genuine stuff has slowly gone back into the sheds and outhouses from where they were parked up in and around 1967 when everyone had bought Bultos and then Montesas.
You haven't seen an Ossa enter the Pre65 Scottish....yet! I predict it will happen maybe this year, the committee will have their eyes peeled no doubt. Should be easy to spot that one! The Ossa trials bike was not commercially available until around 1967.
One mistake that relates to you Woody, your name went in the book this year? Oh dear...you'll have to play the waiting game then! That's a wee bit like bolting the barn door after the horse has bolted, isn't it? Didn't you take careful note of the supplimentary declaration of parts sheet which asks the competitor to declare the forks, frame, yolks etc. etc and their manufacturer and year? Onus is on the competitor!
Basically what I am saying is this, the Pre65 Scottish is massively oversubcribed, it may not always be so, but for now the organisers can be "selective" and I personally feel they should select and prefer entries from genuine bikes first of all. That is what the spectators want to see. No offense if you are reading this Alan!, but Alan Whitton's preparations have their place, no doubt about it, but they simply ride like a modern bike, not a bike made before 1965.
Cheers...
Big John
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Are you talking about the bikes built for trials and grass track by the Winwood brothers?
I remember two being ridden in the 1970 SSDT by Ross and his brother. I think I have a good photo of the Bantam engined bike (Top half) somewhere. It was taken on the Weigh In Sunday at the SSDT at Gorgie cattle Market.
I think I saw one recently in T&MX or YOU HAVE USED WORDS OR A PHRASE WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED ON THIS WEBSITE. PLEASE DELETE YOUR POST/TOPIC. DO NOT TRY TO CIRCUMVENT THE FILTERS IN PLACE ON THIS WEBSITE.
Big John
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Blimey Swooshdave, that knurling is very low, considering you have the lower clamped alloy bottom yolk.
I bet "Legs" would know why...
Big John
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Has OTH got himself a 4RT then?
Let's hope the Scott is not affected by F&M (should I say that on here?)
If the Hook Woods British Championships can get a way with it, I say get the chemical stuff out and spray the bikes, want a hand doing it?
Big John
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Greg,
Contact Dave Renham at Bultaco UK about the electronic system he has available from stock. Fit and forget...
Also PM me and I will put you in touch with someone who has alternative carbs available!
Big John
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Very sorry to hear that you have had to cancel the Lakes Mick. Truly a very difficult decision to have to make.
Lets look forward to the 2008 event which will be worth the wait no doubt.
Best wishes,
Big John
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The forks for Bultacos were manufactured by Betor as were the forks used by Ossa.
However there were many different stantion types as they were usually knurled where the stantion interfaced with the bottom yolk gripping area. The later the model, the further down the stantion the knurling was made.
It may be cheaper just to buy new as the fork sets lying around now command a high price and you may need to get them hard chromed to get them working as they should.
Have you tried Bultaco UK?
Big John
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No I don't own the first two Seeley Hondas made, nor do I really desire to own them, I'm happy with the two I do have.
Big John
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