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Having returned to the sport from a three year break I've gone back to a slow action throttle on the Mont as my timing is not where it used to be and the bike was getting away from me. It has helped a great deal and I expect the fast action will be back on in a month or two. As Dan said, the fast does help with wide open throttle positions if that's what you are finding is becoming a problem in your riding.
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Wahhabi Fatwa issued Gizza, probably get a good stoning or crucifixion for such blasphemy against the Lord of the Worlds you dirty kafir.
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If you do buy her there are a couple of things we used to do to our rev3's that made servicing the carb a great deal easier. Firslty swap the rubber boot around that links the air box to the carb, as standard the small opening goes to the carb so turn it so the larger opening hooks up to the carb and the smaller end to the air box. There is also as standard a spacer on the reed block, we took this out which moves the carb closer to the engine giving more room to fit the carb back in place. This seemed to slightly smooth out the power on the 270's but I don't know why.
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Make sure the oil isn't milky via the sight glass, small amount of petrol coming from the carb when running is normal, silencers are easy to repack if it blows a little, check the shock works fine as they are very expensive to replace. Great bikes, I had an 04 and 06, if its been serviced the air filter will be nice and clean so check it, and so will the oil and water, check all. Give it a good run, all gears and get it nice and hot. £1,100 doesn't sound too bad for a clean one, might be a bargain in France?
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I've had one for 3 months now and no problems at all even though its probably done nearly 150 hours and regularly gets a tough time via my riding. Probably the first thing I always do with a new trials bike is take the stand off, second, pack all the bearings properly and make sure everything is done up as it should be. I'm pretty confident the 4rt is still the highest quality bike out there even with a couple of minor problems that possibly should have been picked up at pdi stage.
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Bolt something on a bike that doesn't work very well and you'll be out of business very quickly. If 2t injection is a nightmare for various reasons specific to trials bikes expect not to see them anytime soon on mass. Montesa/Honda have done an amazing job with the 4rt from the very first version in 2005 and many of those bikes are still going strong today including my brothers that's done the SSDT and quite a few around here. Its going to be very cold tomorrow morning when I kick the 4rt over, it will start first kick and it will ride exactly the same all day and as it did every day before tomorrow. I'm amazed you have had so little set up problems with carbs? maybe you've just been lucky with standard factory jets with your sea level, temps and air pressures, I've generally found that I've had to change all the jets in my bikes, especially the 2t race ones purely on air pressure alone.
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Or as I have said earlier, he just wants to get up that step slightly more than any of the others?
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Aren't you making things more complicated than they need to be? the 4rt's all seem to run sweet for years with little problems, I've never heard of a single injection problem, and drowning a bike that fails to start is hardly limited to 4rt's? This is a Trials forum not a car one, for me injection systems on a trials bike (4rt) work brilliantly, far better in my view than carbs that need near constant adjustments/re jetting and cleaning.
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Did mine with Bennetts, £77 tpft.
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I had one of those and to be fair I had no issues with it mechanically but I did sell it a few months after buying it from new. Carburation was always a niggling problem, constantly ran weak or rich depending on what the weather was doing, more of an annoyance than a problem though. My main issue with the bike was its power, power delivery and general feeling that it wanted to do everything it wanted to do rather what I wanted it to. A great bike in the right hands no doubt for those who can genuinely get on top of that power and how it puts it on the floor, and I expect for those who have come from a cyclo trials background it would be a good choice as it is very small and light.
If you're a novice rider Matt I'd stay away, I have been riding trials for many years and couldn't tame the beast.
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I used to do quite a few nationals that meant it was pretty important you carried a few spares and some fuel/water around with you. Best way I found was to slip the fuel bottle and spares into my mate Ralphy's ruck sack when he was getting changed and use my bum bag for my Lucozade bottle, got away with that for years.
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Brian, I possibly do but to be honest I cant remember whilst sat here. The real key is timing, you cant rush that, and something that has not been mentioned yet just to confuse things is the use of the clutch and throttle to aid the manoeuvre.
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I don't know, but its likely as it is with all the other riders that the bikes are a little different to those we could buy, so between them a pretty level playing field. We often hear that the 4rt doesn't grip very well, idles too fast, is very heavy, bulky, down on power so possibly Bou is not on the best bike, or at best no better than anything else he competes against. So why is Bou getting up steps that others simply cant? its not the bike, its possibly not a difference in talent levels, it may just be he wants to get up that step slightly more than his competitors?
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Commitment - dedication - psychology - and fitness etc. all play their parts in sports, talent has little to do with those already at the top of their game, the winners are those who go that little bit further than the rest. You can be the most talented in any sport but it will not guarantee you the top slot at any stage without the other things, there are hundreds of examples like these over the years, Bou is probably the most committed - hard working and fittest of a very talented bunch.
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I think that's the model I had from new, kept it nearly three weeks.
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I've had 6 years on 4rt's, no fails in that time, the occasional cough up a big step but nothing off putting even. As I've said earlier, it is so nice getting a trials bike out of the van in any type of weather condition and more importantly any air pressure variations and have that bike run the same every time without the need for carburettor adjustments.
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Four M10 nyloc nuts then Brian, lifts the front by 10mm or so, worked for me for years now.
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A good trick for queue jumpers and those who like to sit revving the bike up in a queue smoking everyone out, reach over and tap the gear lever into 1st for them with your foot preferably when they're at peak throttle, fun for all the family.
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Brian, easiest way is as lineaway has said, kick it across on the move by using a kicker or try it whilst on a camber going downhill so the wheel doesn't have to lift too far off the ground as in the video below. Plan throwing your legs and hips to one side and it should move over quite fast if the timing is right, the first hop should show what is needed to go one way. Both hops on the video are on the go hops, not stationary which are much harder to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9xcP-0-Lyg
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Cracking video, enjoyed watching that, thanks for making the effort and posting.
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So far I've been quite pleased with the standard pegs on the 14, they've coped with my usual heavy and ugly rock riding very well, but I would dearly like a set of raptors again asap.
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I started many years ago at 13 years old on an ex SSDT Montesa 248 with a oversize fuel tank. I loved it from day one and never realised what I was riding was probably way too powerful for me, to heavy and way to big, and I'm still doing it now 35 years on. As lineaway said, you'll either love it or hate it for whatever reasons, its a fabulous social sport, full of laughs and challenges at every stage of your riding ability.
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Gas flowed I assume? bike may be a missile if its been done properly, boat if not.
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Sherpa325, the 4rt idle might be high but you soon get used to it and I don't notice it at all anymore, loading the motor slightly drops it anyway and its free to run everything when it doesn't matter that its high.
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Wow Neil! personally I'd not run it until its identified, could be costly? Do you have a better photo and some dimensions? looks like a bearing part to me?
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