the addict

There is no doubt riding a turn non stop is harder than being able to hop to make the turn, but if the turn is so tight that it cant be rode non stop then we'll get everyone with 5's or observers will be leininat and let the stop go as a clean. Many turns down here as set out so you absolutley have to hop to get around and many cant be done on the move if the rule is to be 100% strict, I can remember when non stop was introduced about 12 years or so ago and the gap actually got bigger between the better lads and the back of the feild on the hard route. What I saw was over night the better lads learned how to hop on the go as you say but the mid/end of the feild could,nt and fived just about every section where the inevertable South Midland tight turn was put in. I rode a section they used in the Earl Shilton Trial back in September, I was told by somebody there that the better lads rode it non stop, I could get through it ok but had to stop a couple of times to line up or correct, I would never be able to ride such a section non stop so I would have got a mighty 20 score on that section with non stop rules where as with stop allowed I may have got away with 3-5. Now in my book the gap has got vastly bigger on just one section of the trial not smaller as you imply? The hard route down here is usually quite a small entry, not because of the hopping but more the section severity, if you cant hop you take a big dab but if the severity of the section is too much for you then you do the Clubman route. Non stop down here would mean much more servere sections to take marks and as we dont have the land in most cases some of the sections would mean going over or up stuff that really isnt on for all the hard route riders. Winter weather helps down here and opens up the sections for us but in the summer its abit of a nightmare when grip is easy everywhere and not much to go at without risking someone having a major off. I cant see how a scoring system that gives you a maximum for a quick stop would even things up for anyone down here when a dab would get you round a tight turn without hopping, the lesser lights will stop and hesitate and pay heavily for it not the other way around. Don't get me wrong though, I like riding non stop trials in their place and ride quite a few of the non stop Nationals, but down here its a bloody tough job.

You have no idea what jo club trials/venues are like down here and never will untill you ride a few, Wallace? thats a National,lots of groups etc, try running a 10 section trial at any of those groups and see what you'd come up with? Tight turns take marks down here thats why they're in, no run ups at hills, or steps etc etc, make what we have non stop so you can turn easy and you'd have nothing, I don't think you'd beleive some of the venues down here and how a club could put a good trial on but many do and fair play to them for it. Many of our turns are impossible to ride around without hopping let alone non stop

Many venues around here are very small and very limited to what the terrain offers especially for the hard route. Hard route usually means very very tight sections, impossible to do non stop, there’s simply not enough terrain to set 10 sections at many places as non stop and if you did, the sections would be way to easy or way to dangerous. There are good venues about but no-where near enough for the hard route to be non stop without the observers being very lenient, and as I said above if they are lenient what’s the point???? the one mark for a stop rule was a joke around here and I think that’s why the ACU changed to stop allowed again. Most observers counted to three before giving a stop mark???? so again what was the point?? I did lots of trials and never got a mark for stopping

well said Ishy, I like that, I like both rules in there own suited venues, as I have said before, non stop around the Midland/south mid centre would be next to impossible without observers being leaniant, and if they're leniant whats the point?

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Thats a cracking video ta, **** the bike, wow he does some lovely stuff on that

Applleyards seem to be able to sell new bikes at that kind of price for a year old one? these are now year old bikes, there are no 2010's as far as we know..

Montesa 4rt problems Very limited market (many have tried it,many wont ever go there again) Too expensive Too reliable Poor grip in the slippy stuff Pretty much same model as 05 Most expensive trials bike on the market (I think) Apparently huge stocks of unsold bikes Buyer market very very unsure whether Honda will stop making the bike No other models Importer problems Dealer problems How many people have noticed a vast decline over the past two years of 4rt's at trials???? what would I do? sell them at 4,500, keep the current model going, there are still people out there who will be more than happy worldwide to buy the 4rt as a good reliable work horse, but not at 6,500 -7,000 quid. If Honda are to make a big comeback in sales in the future the 4rt needs a very good revamp, sort the grip out and bring out a 2 stroke injection

As Jonny says, the Mont is too expensive, especially at this time, the bike has been tried by many over the past 4 years and as the model has'nt changed much from 05. Buyers who could'nt get on with it will not buy it again and people who love it (like me) wont buy a new one as they're to expensive and to reliable to justify a new one at that price. If there are hundereds of 09's in the warehouse Honda need to get these shifted asap, drop the price to 4,500 and get them gone, I would chop mine in for a new one tomorrow at that price and expect quite a few others would as well. Personally at the current price and doubts how long Mont will be going those bikes will gather dust over the next year and Honda will pull the plug which will be a great shame to Trials. Make the 4rt a cheap option for the next three years, keep the production line flowing and get some of the Mont fans back. What I have noticed over the past years is you either love the Mont or ****ing hate it with a passion, I cant say that about any other bike out there, I've owned gassers/betas/shercos and I cant say I wouldnt buy one of those ever again unlike what alot of people say about the 4rt. This is a huge problem for Montesa as its highly unlikely someone who couldnt get on with them in the past will ever buy one again unless a totally new model comes out (which I cant see happening in the next few years) As Ive said above the 4rt for me is the best trials bike I have ever owned, I would dearly love a new one but the price is way to high, surely it would be better for Honda to cut their losses,shift the bikes and keep the current 09 model going apart from new plastics for the coming years, and sell at an affordable price.

Gasser tool box incoming!!!!!

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Take the wheel with you and get them to fit it mate

The Master

Good luck with the bike, there are loads of lads your way and quite a few places to ride, hopefully some of them will let you know. A few of us from Oxford make the trip down your way from time to time as the land is perfect for trials, and you've got quite a few clubs near you as well.

Third Trial on Sunday with the IRC rear. Very slippy sections due to a torrential downpour just before the start (my worst nightmare) I have to admit I cant ever remember a time on the Mont when I would'nt have been well worried about getting grip at a trial like this. Tyre was brilliant all day in many types of conditions, did'nt even think about a grip problem at all, but Iam now getting front grip problems for some reason? maybe its just because the rear is so good the front feels bad. Not had a go on the rocks yet but hopefully if Saturdays work goes well I might have a chance at a try at ESTC.

Brilliant

Sorry Copey, meant what the tubed wheel lokks like not the tubeless