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Results of the Manx 2 Day Classic have been posted on the Manx Trials Club Web site.
As You'll see, in a reversal of last year's results, Dave Thorpe beat John Maxfield on most cleans - both having lost 25 marks.
Joint third only one point behind were Chris Gascoigne and Dave Wood with Chris taking third again on most cleans.
Click this for the results.
How does Dave do it? Amazing for his age.
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Keep watching - not only one trial injury but two - looks like a Barnsley event near the Wombwell Kart track they say.
Glen Leash with a nasty fall on rocks in a pretty steep section.
Short clip of Dougie showing how 'Motocross' should be done!
Annoying that.
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Hi Wallo
I've asked what make he used but he made it up himself.
He has said however that if he were to build another AMC special, he would stick to the chain for 2 reasons.
1. In order to keep the width down. He reckons it adds 15 to 20mm.
2. In addition, the overall gearing with the available engine sprockets is too high and he has to put up with a very large rear wheel sprocket.
Might be ok for a road bike, but is it worth it on an old trials iron?
Good luck
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A friend of mine has done it using the Burman clutch and gearbox.
He had to fabricate a much wider primary chaincase from aluminium making it vulnerable to being thumped but he seems happy with the result.
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Managed to find a report on the Retro65 Welsh 2 day Classic trial:-
Welsh Classic 2 day report
They too were disappointed at having only 56 entries - all pre-65.
Please can the powers that be try to avoid these clashes next year???
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Scarborough 2 day had over 140 entries (number 147 was issued) with a good mixture of pre65 and twinshocks.
The heavy rain at the start on Sat and the end of Sunday did its best to spoil it but a huge round of applause must go to the organisers and observers of the 15 sections each day.
Well done to Roger Williams on his immaculate 'barn find' Pinky and to Len Hutty for their superb rides.
Full Scarborough results here
Surely if the Westmorland club want a decent entry they need to move the date to avoid two of the best classic events on the calendar.
I did it a few years ago and they complained about the low numbers then. I enjoyed it and would have done it again had it not clashed with Scarborough's 2 day event.
Cartmel is a super place with the old race course and the shop that is the home of the original 'Sticky Toffee Pudding'.
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Not the easiest of websites to find your way around but try this link
RDMCBILSTAIN Classic trial info
Click on 'ENGLISH' and 'TRIAL' if it's not already there.
It gives info about the event but I don't see a download for the entry form/regs but at least it confirms that the event is on.
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I had Boyer Bransden black box ignition on my Cub for 10 yrs without fault.
It does rely on good magnetism in the Lucas rotor of course. I fitted a new one at the same time as the old one gave hardley any spark at all.
I just changed to PVL because it was on another Cub I bought.
Does it run any better?
Yes I think it does due to a stronger spark that is probably down to the closer tolerances between the rotor and stator.
Pros and Cons
PVL is lighter overall - not affected by knocks to the primary chaincase that causes the Lucas rotor to rub on the stator and overheat etc.
You can run the engine with the primary cover off to check the timing with a strobe.
Boyer has I suspect a marginally better advance curve.
No need to strip down for expensive engineering (although unusually my PVL is on a bolt on bracket so no engineering to the crankcases was needed).
Cheaper than PVL - almost half the price if you have a good rotor and stator?
You pays your money and you takes your choice!
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The old manuals recommend 200cc of 30 grade oil in the gearbox and 200cc of 20 grade in the primary chain case.
These days I use a 20-50 multigrade in the gearbox filled 'til it overflows from the level plug in the centre of the drain plug.
For the primary chain/clutch case I use Auto Transmission fluid, just enough to keep the chain lubed but not enough to make the clutch slip.
Not had any problems.
I also use fully synthetic in the engine. Not had to rebuild it in 3 trials seasons of regular trials use and it still doesn't smoke. Just change it every 3 months or so.
Hope this helps
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Top event. Best of the 5 Northern British Bike road trial rounds.
Limited to 120 all pre65 and full every year.
Still has several of the old Bemrose sections (so I'm told).
Hollinsclough, Hawks Nest, Manor Steps etc.
Results are clearer on the Poachers website - here -
Sadly though the first stretch of unmade byway had been closed under the National Park's new Highways Act powers discussed previously. Be a shame if any of the others used are lost before next year.
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Oh! Strange. They must have changed the schedules - as they do.
Try again next Monday 5th May on Eurosport2 at 7pm if you're not in the Highlands.
Guess you'll have to keep checking the link until you catch it.
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I thought that RTA insurance could be taken out as part of the entry.
Has this fallen through?
The ACU have a policy available when you enter an event but this is an SACU event of course.
Bennetts let down motorcycleemptyness but he got his money back - see this topic - Trials Insurance under Trials Transport.
Good luck
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You'll need to buy a Programme to find the sections and routes. Well worth the money and profits go to charity.
Basically the start on both Friday and Saturday is in Kinlochleven at a civilised 10am usually from the car park near the Ice Factor (well worth a look in) and from the school on Saturday where hot and cold sandwiches and drinks are on sale in aid of school funds.
Riders on each day are split. Odds go left and evens go right to cover the 30 or so sections, 20ish mile 'figure of 8' lap.
Lots of sections on the road side both days although Pipeline, the favourite venue, is a bit of an uphill walk from Kinlochleven.
Don't expect SSDT style sections. Just enjoy the old bikes from the 50s and 60s plonking their way round sections best suited to the old (if somewhat modified) machinery piloted mostly by riders from the same era.
The smell of nostalgia fills the air!
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CX57FKM was first registered in North Wales on the 1 Dec 2007 and the tax stopped on the 13 Feb 2008.
Looks like a fire in the engine room - but not quite up to the youtube demo.
Unlucky!
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Bangor is on Eurosport 2 next Monday 28 April at 6pm for half an hour.
Good news is that Jack Burnicle is back doing the commentary.
B sight better than the guy who did the indoor trials.
Good shots on the rocks - Follows each of the top riders round their 2 laps.
Search for Trial on - TV Guide UK
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Sammy not in business?
Check his web site http://products.sammymiller.co.uk/
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There's another one appeared. Opened at
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Could be an early Greeves Anglian with 'Banana' Forks.
What's the frame code? TGS?
What happened to the Villiers engine? The Greeves alloy Challenger barrel and head from an Anglian is much sought after.
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Downloading OK now. Must have been down for a short time. 11 mins forecast download time.
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I get my sprockets along with Serco from
J B Gears of
22 Jack Lane
Leeds, West Yorkshire LS11 9NP
United Kingdom
Phone : +44 113 2468425
I can't find a web site or email address but he knows classic hubs well if you speak to him.
Most are made in their gear making machine shop.
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Has Stage6 closed already or is it my browser?
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Just checked the Bennetts on-line-quote website
See https://quotes.bennetts.co.uk/secure/FullQu...etts-policy.pdf
Page 16
13. EXCLUSIONS
The Underwriters will not indemnify the Insured Person in respect of;
13.13 any Insured Event arising out of the use of an Insured Vehicle by the Insured Person in connection
with racing, rallies, trials or competitions of any kind.
Ouch
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Just renewed with Carole Nash for my Classic Bikes.
They have just changed their insurer from Equity Red Star to Groupama - whoever they may be! Carole Nash are only brokers.
Take care when talking to call centre staff who lets face it, want to sell you insurance because of the commission they receive.
My Insurance certificate for last year did not exclude Trials but it was hidden in the Policy doc!
This year's Certificate specifically excludes competitions and trials. So I'll have to pay the extra to do road trials.
It's about time that an Insurer or two took a close look at the sport but I guess it's not worth their while.
Having said that when the premium for 3 bikes Fully Comp and 3 on Accidental Damage fire and theft (not road cover) cost me under
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Well spotted that man.
First time for a while that the riders have been listed on the web!
There were lots of long faces at the Red Rose trial today.
One or two well known riders were unlucky in the 'draw' -
Eric Boocock - former speedway star - rides pre65 most weekends - but he is on the first reserve list.
Also John Maxfield - 2 time winner of the Manx Classic.
So at least not all the 'names' get in Bo.
Still too many under 40s!
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Ok so my suggestions were all a bit tongue in cheek!
The result of just having received the regret letter.
Incidentally the letter says that 'over 320 entries' were received and is very polite and well written.
Doesn't take away the pain though.
I heard on the grapevine that a high proportion (about 90?) of the entry were on Cubs.
No-one wants to see a procession of Cubs so I can understand the machine having a bearing on who gets an entry.
The organising committee have a hell of a job to do and can't please everyone.
On the issue of volunteering to observe - I agree that anyone willing to observe deserves a ride the following year.
Wouldn't be easy to keep a record of who has - just another burden on the organisers.
Wouldn't mind observing one of the days but it's a long way to travel not see the sections on at least one day.
Perhaps the committee could let the riders know what guidelines they work to.
Rumours abound about what is needed -
Having to observe 2 yrs both days to ensure a ride?
Does observing on the SSDT count? I'd find that a better option.
If a rider missed out in the ballot for 2 yrs they should be ok the next year ?
(there was a question on the entry form to check how many times entrants had competed and when the last time was)
On the issue of age, I was questioning the lower age limit on the grounds that we older riders in our 50s will soon become physically less able to ride as the years pass whereas those under 40 still have many years riding long after we have hung up our boots.
This is the top trial on the Calendar along with the Manx after all.
We'll still be there however so fingers crossed for good weather for the 10 days of our Highland holiday (yes we do stay for the SSDT!).
Have a gud 'un
I'd rather bounce on the rocks than
Stickinthemud!
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