Triad

Yeah, wasn't fun with the Beta Rev but of course I kept the rpm reasonably low... but yeah, it's a pain for the tires too.

Yeah, I tried a few... a '95 KTM EXC 300 2 strokes, a 2013 TM 300 2 strokes, a Gasgas EC300 2 strokes and owned a 2000 KTM EXC400 4 strokes for a year... it was very nice but the tall seat/pegs didn't really give me much confidence against obstacles. Great bike, though.

Hello guys... basically part 2 of my previous topic about the 125cc. I'm looking for another trial bike to explore hard trails... but no bike is "local" to me, at least 1.5 hours from here. I've found a Montesa 310 Evasion, a 315, a couple of older TXT280s, a few Beta Revs from the early 2000s. I'd prefer a road legal bike as I don't own a van to move it around and I'm at about 10km from the nearest woods. Found more than one Evasion 310, one is basically brand new with less than 1000km but it needs plate/paperwork, so I'll have to apply for one and cover the costs... basically it will cost 250/300 bucks more than the other that already have the plate and paperwork and will take some time... 2-3 months. But again, it looks brand new - not something you see everyday. No Beta Alps nearby. I'd definitely like the bigger tank but the seat really looks bad LOL. Is the 315 much better than the 310 for this kind of stuff? Not doing real zones, just want something to have fun and learn on. I'm 180cm x 82kg.

True, but at least it's got those parts fitted for sure, while the Rev 250s I find really look neglected. We'll see, I'll probably have to drive not too far from there to pick up parts for an Ossa Mick Andrews I'm trying to put back together, so might be worth checking out. 280txt are all too expensive for what they are or too far away. The 310 Evasion might be a good compromise between trial and a real all-around bike... but I'd have to ride it with a dark visor to stand the livery LOL

Yep, €700 plus the cost of the ownership paperwork (not sure it's the right term)... basically the cost to transfer the owner ship and the plate in my name is €180... for a grandtotal of €880 plus the fuel/highway fees to go get it as it's in a town 4 hours from here I've also found a couple of Montesa 310 Evasion... gotta say on paper it looks good for what I'd like to do (some exploration, some small obstacles etc.) but it's twice the price. Even found one with less than 1000km on the odometer but it's not road legal, would take €550 to get a plate and paperwork (and 3 months).

Thanks, I'm italian but I used to exchange mail with peoples from the USA or the UK for my previous job as a guitar builder 🧐 Good point about the torque... I have to admit I'm only considering this particular 125cc because of its conditions. The guy fitted new Michelin tires, new clutch, new piston, new coolant hoses and a few other parts... while the 250s I find are in the usual sorry state of bikes left in a barn and used to fool around, rarely washed and probably never had the joy of a brand new part fitted in the last 10 years 😂

True... I think a 250cc would be "better" but since it would be my second or third bike and I'll never be a real trial rider, I didn't want to spend much. Also, while an enduro bike can also be used for "casual riding" around town, a trial is much more limited (at least the modern ones). The old dual shock ones are as expensive as a 2010 modern trial, unless you find a crusty one in need of several works. I take care of my bikes personally, but wouldn't want to get something that needs a complete rebuild... too much hassle. Is the difference between the same model/year of Gasgas, TXT280 and TXT125 huge in terms of low rpm grunt, throttle response and "max speed" (if you can really talk about speed on a trial bike)?

Hello guys, for some reason I have an itch to give trial another chance... owned a Beta Rev 270 and a Gasgas TXT280... the GG wasn't street legal so I had to carry it on my SUV, very annoying. It looks like prices are all over the place at the moment... I wanted to get a cheap but decent bike to see if I can get better, but I want it street legal to not be forced to carry it on my car. It looks like I'd have to spend at least €2000 for a relatively recent Gasgas (2008 to 2012), while early 2000s models are only slightly cheaper at €1600. Makes no sense. Anyway I've also found a pretty cheap 2004 TXT 125cc. that's also road legal... but I'm almost 6' (180cm) and 82kg... is it too small for me? It's got a few S2 goodies here and there, €700. I'm also in love with the look and sound of 70s trials, I'm in the process of putting back together an Ossa Mick Andrews but it will likely stay as is, not road legal as down here in Italy it would cost more than €550 to get new plate and paperwork. I'd like to be able to follow a friend on his enduro bike... of course on flat surface it would be impossible as most trials only go up to maybe 80km/h? He'll have to be patient. 😄

Like an MTB... but wouldn't be easy without the chance to keep the chain tension stable. Anyway, I ended up replacing chain and rear sprocket with a DID520 and a Jitsie Z38... now I can keep the revs lower and keep a decent speed. Yeah, going to keep it as is for the rest, even if the Mikuni is still crappy... in the future, if I stick with it, I'll replace it with a PWK26 Polini, so same diameter but better in all aspects and won't flood the engine. Gotta say, though, that the 2008 Rev has a 28mm carb and almost everybody says it's muuuch better than the 2007... so a slightly bigger carb isn't a bad thing. I highly doubt they modified the engine to make it work.

I'm not (yet) good enough for "sections", I just try to learn something everyday... but yeah, what I'd like to do it "Trial" ala Julien Dupont... a trial bike is so much fun and I'm learning a lot. I doubt I could do the same with an MX bike... maybe, not sure. I'll try to ride one if I get the chance. In the meantime I guess you're right, I should probably just replace the rear sprocket to keep the revs low on road commutes and keep the rest as is... if it's not broken, don't fix it 😛

Nah, not trying to change it much... as I said, I'd just need it to be a bit faster for the commuting between the "zones". I like pretty much everything else... the weight, the simplicity etc. - it's perfect once you're in town or in the woods. But getting there is the problem. A bigger carb isn't going to make it a CR250 LOL, they went from the Mikuni VM26 to the Keihin PWK28 in 2008... I doubt a slightly bigger carb will make such a difference as the cylinder still has ultra-tiny in/out ducts (sorry, don't know the technical terms in English). Of course if it has to lose the snappy throttle response, not worth it. But the Mikuni is absolutely unpredictable: yesterday night the bike was crispy and powerful, almost lost me when decided to wheelie in 5th gear uphill... maybe the carb settings like colder weather.

Yep... but unfortunately I have a few km around town to do, wherever I decide to go... so it's a necessary evil. I just found out there aren't bigger front sprockets but Jitsie makes a Z38 rear sprocket... might be good, as mine is pretty worn.

Thanks for your reply... don't get me wrong, I like the bike as is but the commutes on the road are dangerous due to the low speed. I don't want a sportsbike, I already have one... would just like to have some more speed/top end to reach the nice spots where I can be a jackass at lot speed 😄 I'd go for a smaller rear sprocket, but Z41 is the smallest available, and I already have a Z12 front (instead of the stock 11)... so gearing isn't the answer. I never use full throttle for more than 1-2 seconds, mind you... that's why I'd need taller gearing, to keep relatively low rev but still manage to be fast enough to not be an obstacle for cars.

Hello! New member here, so please be patient 😅 I've got a few months ago my first trial bike, a 2007 Beta Rev 270. After a few weeks I started having fun on it, but I kinda crashed against a few "limits" of the bike: speed and power. Of course they're not made to be "fast", but I always have to front some km on the road to reach nice places to have fun... and the bike is too slow, to the point of being dangerous. My bike has a Mikuni carb that I'm dying to swap, as it always needs the air screw to be adjusted... and I always hated Mikuni, even when I had KTM supermotos. Anyway, I'd need to make the bike a bit faster/more powerful to not be crushed by cars on the road. Since I want to swap the carb anyway for a PWK 28... would it make sense to get a 30mm instead? I guess I'd lose some throttle response down low but should get some power up top. I already swapped the front sprocket to a Z12... but the bike is slow and there aren't bigger sprockets available on the market (or smaller rear sprocket, 41 is the smallest available). As you can guess, I don't want to turn it into an MX bike, mind you... I have a lot of fun on the bike as is but for "commuting" between home and the nice places, the trip is awful and dangerous. I also tried to ride with more air in the tyres... didn't make much difference, but was worth a try! 😛 Before you ask: the bike is in good conditions, clean air filter, clean carb, good compression. Usually starts with the first kick. Thanks in advance!

Gotta be honest, I have the same bike/year and I really hate this carb. Mine doesn't leak, mind you, but I gotta set the air screw everyday. Carburation, expecially down low, is extremely sensible. I'm considering a few options... Polini makes pretty good PWK clones, a 28mm one would be a perfect match as the 2008 Rev had the Keihin PWK 28 and it was much better than ours thanks to that upgrade.