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Just want to add my $0.02 as a fairly new to trials rider, so I can provide that perspective as someone who hasn't been involved for years as many others have.
My first introduction to motorcycles in general was about 12 years ago when I met my husband. We went to the local motorcycle show one year and saw a bloke named Jordan Szoke doing a trials demo, and I have to say that someone in this thread who said seeing that crazy stuff on a trials bike really does wonders for driving one away from wanting to do it has a good point! You kind of figure well I don't think I'd ever want to climb up an eight foot wall and jump over a car because that obviously demands years of dedication and practice and seems a bit dangerous. If that's all you've ever been exposed to regarding trials, it misses the fun that can be had at the beginner and lower levels.
Another comment here was regarding the enduro riders getting into trials to improve their skills, I have to hard agree with that, because that's eventually what ended up happening with my husband and myself. We wanted to get better on our big bikes and knew loads of the top riders were coming from a trials background. Having a trials bike has been PHENOMENAL for improving those skills. I now preach the gospel of trials to everyone and anyone because the improvements to be had are massive. Also, quick! My improvement hadn't really leapt forward much in the ten years I had on the enduro bikes, until I got on a trials bike of my own... the immediate and jaw dropping results in my balance and technique on the big bikes has blown me away. Especially as a female rider with shorter legs and struggling a bit with the weight of a big bike, everything I want to learn to do on that I now learn it on the trials bike first, and the skill transfers over perfectly.
Now when it comes to clubs and competitions, that wasn't something we were really interested in but decided to give it a try. I have to say that my first trial as a junior rider was really difficult for me. 10 sections/3 loops was far too long and I felt the junior line was too difficult for me, I ended up dropping out halfway due to being tired and fearful. Luckily our local club started to put on a women's trial which cut the length to 5 sections/3 loops, and the junior lines were much easier for newbies. I have now advanced enough to move up to intermediate, but that gave me a lot more confidence and made it worth my time/money. I don't know that a "proper" 10 section trial is for me because I just don't have that kind of stamina, I don't usually ride for hours and hours and those trials seem to take the entire day to complete. I'm not sure if that's a barrier for many people, but for those just getting into the sport I can see that it would be, especially if the lowest class has big logs and rock climbs and such like ours did.
I also tend to want to just compete against myself, not others, but the trial still offers the ability to do so. I enjoy the challenge of trying the sections out without knowing how it's going to go, getting 3 tries at it and attempting to improve each time, and using all the skills in my toolbox to attempt to do so. It's a bit like going down a trail in the woods you've never done, you don't know what's around the next corner, so you use your skills to get through.
That being said, our local club trials are about 1.5 hours away and that honestly is the biggest drawback. It's a long day of getting there for the early start, riding all day, driving home, washing bikes etc. and often they're on Sunday so gotta work the next day. Tough to make it work for everyone though. I appreciate all the work the clubs and volunteers do, I can only imagine it's tons of work! Cheers to all.
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You mentioned a Montesa and I haven't seen anyone reply to that yet. The Montesa was the first trials bike I rode that I felt comfortable on as a beginner, and I ended up buying one myself. I got the 300RR and I did not at any point find it too much for me, and I still don't. I enjoy four stroke traction and despite the bike being heavier than a two stroke, it hasn't limited me in any way. Can't recommend them enough. If you get the chance to try one that may best answer your question, although it may take a good half hour or riding to get used to how a four stroke feels if you've only ridden two. Cheers!
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As a female rider, I think this is the biggest barrier to entry, the cost. My husband got into trials, got a bike, and I tried it out but didn't really care to keep going with it at the time. What really got me going was getting to borrow a bike from the shop I worked at, and getting to go riding WITH him instead of sharing one, and getting some real riding time in. Then I had to have my own, and I justified the expense because I really enjoyed it. I think it can be both expensive, and something you need time and someone to really get your feet wet so you know if it's worth that kind of $$. That's a tough one.
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Although static balance is important for sure, you will also start to gain balance skill from just riding. I ride single track stuff on my trials bike and practice static in between, I still am not great, but I notice just RIDING it more I am improving. Don't think about it too much, practice and time on the bike will get you there. I recommend just having fun with it, the rest will follow!
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I took a clinic last year where it was described to me that you want your weight distributed 50/50 ideally when on the pegs to balance the bike, which makes sense. As soon as you have more than 50% to one side, you are going to tip. When you get on the bike, one foot on the peg is 50%, and the opposite hand with the bar turned toward that hand is the other 50% to balance the bike while you bring your other foot up to the second peg, at which point you transfer that 50% to that foot. Look at a point about 10 feet or more in front of you, not directly at the ground in front of the bike. I like to practice with the bike running and slip the clutch a little if I feel my balance starting to go off, or turn the bars if I feel weighted too much to one side. Hope that is helpful, sorry if it's confusing.
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Don at Cascade Imports in Mission has been dealing with Montesa for the past 40 years, here's his website: https://cascadeimports.ca/
He sells OEM and aftermarket parts and bikes as well, he's the Montesa dealer for all of Canada as far as I know, and he deals in Scorpa as well.
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Hope this was the right forum to post. Wondering about auxiliary fuel tanks and what everyone does to carry extra fuel? Two of my buddies have the Acerbis auxiliary tanks strapped to their front forks. I like the idea but also don't want to lose my headlight, especially as we are coming into night riding season. I do a fair amount of trail riding with my bike and last week I ran out of gas just about back to the truck.
Other option I was looking at were the Giant Loop Armadillo fuel bags and strapping one to the fender or something.
Has anyone got a good solution for this, what do you do? Cheers!
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Wouldn't think so... I use it on mine and on all my leather tack for my horse, never had a problem other than it can discolour. Works wonderfully for the dirt boots I've used it on.
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I've never seen parts so hard to find online as the Montesa's I must say! I can't find an All Balls kit or anything. Hoping someone here knows the bearing numbers on the 4RTs for rear and front wheels, I think I found that they are 6004-2RS but says to double check your bearings first, before I go pulling anything apart does anybody know offhand?
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Yeah not burning on the exhaust is important! I wore leggings to practice one day and ended up burning a big hole in them pretty quick when I tipped over and my leg was caught just enough on the pipe to go through to my skin. Stupid mistake! Thanks for the tips!
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I'm in North America, so our trials selection to go try stuff on is pretty limited. The shops online seem to only list boys/men or unisex. Any lady trials riders out there have suggestions for well fitted ladies trials gear? Brands/models etc? Thanks!
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Yikes I don't particularly like the idea of grinding my brand new pegs down but I guess if that's what it comes to....
The idea of bending the lever, that tells me that it isn't normally supposed to do this then? It seems like even the new ones that I tried at the dealership did it, but I thought maybe I'm kicking too far. It seems to take up that whole stroke to kick it over, though. I'll have to give this a go, rather than grinding down the pegs first.
Thanks for the tips!
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I have a 2107 Cota 300RR, and whenever I kick her over the lever hits the footpeg. I put new pegs on and the lever is damaging them a bit, as well as the lever itself is getting chewed up. It seems impossible to stop the kick before the peg. I saw someone else on here had put a rubber piece on his. I have put a bit of rubber hose on it for now to help protect them, but the rubber is causing the lever to get stuck on the peg now.
Is this normal for these bikes, and is there a solution? Thanks in advance.
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I ended up getting new levers, the Zeta Pivot setup that bend backwards. They look slick and they're shorter too so a slightly easier pull.
Rebuilt the M/C as well, small nick in one seal on the piston. Something must have got in there. Works beautifully now!
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Thanks I am actually finding mine to be rather loose as well, I'll give your trick a try!
I might have to rebuild my master cylinder as well actually, the lever tends to need pumping back up as it slowly sinks into the handlebar over extended use.
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Hoping for a bit of advice, purchased a 2017 Cota 300RR this year and I notice it has a bit of a knock. I have several friends with Montesas and none seem to knock this loud. I have been told it's normal for them to knock a bit. I've checked valves and cam chain tension but it really sounds like a piston knock to me. I know she's got some hours on her. I suppose a video would be the best way to show you guys, I'll have to get one up here later on. I am concerned I'm going to damage something running it though, but I want to know if I'm going to need to do a piston soon.
From everything I read these are not known for knocking or needing pistons, so I'm hoping it's just a normal thing.
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Hey there, I have a 2017 300RR as well. Would love to see some pics. Was thinking about doing the mesh as well, what did you use?
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