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I have a Montesa for sale, 3300 US$ is about 4500$ Canadian you could buy a lot more motorcycle for your $ in Canada, too bad for you it's so far away.

Did some of the pre-filter get into the pump or is it 100% accounted for? Sure sounds like you found a big enough problem to account for performance issues. Water destroys the treated paper in fuel filters, makes it so fuel does not pass through as easy, replacement is the only reliable option if your bike ingests water 😐 like when you drop it into a lake. Fella riding a Vertigo Nitro here today (close to freezing temps here) after kicking his bike for about 20 kicks, I said sure sounds like you're charging the battery or you need a jump start. About 30 or 40 kicks it finally started and ran fine for the rest of the day. ... he's going to investigate the battery voltage situation as a possible cause. If yours has a capacitor instead they were reportedly less problem cold starting, which makes sense because a power capacitor charges different and is less problem in cold temps compared to a lithium battery lol one or two kicks should be loads enough if the alternator is any good.

@mrskywalkerI don't read this as you being a novice rider, it's all about how good you are with throttle, brake and clutch control, that is what makes the most difference between your ability to pilot a small vs large displacement trials bike. You say you will be riding this in a yard that is relatively flat? <- then sound volume would not be a problem if you are riding a Montesa 4-stroke, they only bark when you rev them up to blast up a big hill, the rest of the time they sound like a Honda generator. Lots of ways to make a Montesa 4RT even more quite too, they come restricted for road use and you have to modify them to make them race ready as per the instructions that came with the bike originally. 1250$ even in US$ does not buy you much of a modern trials bike, that's about the price of a new set of front forks. To get the most out of learning to ride Trials you need the bike to be operating perfect, anything less than that will detract from your learning experience. Beta Evolution 4T is not an easy bike to start and keep running nice compared to the fuel injected Montesa, particularly once it falls over Beta 4T are harder to start and will have you messing with choke settings, Montesa has a tilt switch to kill the engine if it is upside-down because they just don't want to stop running in any aspect.

Fuel injection pump submerged inside the fuel tank is located there for cooling, the motivation to keep lots of fuel in the tank is cooling. IF the fuel pressure became low the first thing I would check is the filter or filters plural if it has a pre-filter. I have seen pre-filters deteriorate in some fuel where the plastic bits get sucked into the fuel pump and second filter on other brands of motorcycles. Generally the canister fuel filter is under high pressure and the hint for that is it will be fabricated from steel and not thin plastic. Fuel pressure is generally tested by a gauge or by operating the pump off a battery and then measuring the fuel volume output over time. Pressure is fairly high on an injector pump, you are talking about 60psi range. Service manual is sure to tell all about it. From my experience with Honda/Montesa Fi the fuel filter is part of the pump assembly and not available as a separate part, the cost of the pump and filter complete is about 1000$ to replace. ymmv "bike runs perfect once it’s going" Once it's running the electric fuel pump is being powered by the alternator and not exclusively by the battery, that's why I recommended check your battery voltage when it is cold and compare that to when it's running. Montesa/Honda runs 100% off the alternator so it has a relatively huge alternator plus a big capacitor to spin the fuel pump.

🤔 thats' a fuel injected bike, poor start could be low fuel pressure, pretty sure it has a battery? low voltage at the battery could cause low fuel pressure, fuel injected bikes in general you should not need to mess with the throttle much for cold starting, on some like the Montesa that even messes them up and it won't start unless the idle is spot on. check your battery voltage when it's cold might be worth a try, when the bikes warm the battery is theoretically charging.

Had a phenomenal new Trials rider here today, first day out riding serious terrain and he's already acing expert level stuff with very little coaching. He was our third place champion at this years GnArden hard enduro and has only ridden big bikes previously, one day out and he's definitely addicted to trials riding and the concept of riding sections now 😎

A friend riding a 2023 gas gas 300 experienced the exact symptoms today, it was like omg and then he could hardly make it back to the house, pulled the carburetor and the low speed jet was completely plugged. We ran a thin wire through the hole and that totally fixed it.

Air leak after the carburetor could do it, starved for fuel at the emulsion tube inside the float bowl part of the carburetor, faulty bottom end seal.

Video does indeed make everything look flat and easy and from what I've seen hard enduro riders just starting to ride trials bikes are not afraid to try hard stuff, fact is they show nearly zero interest in doing easy stuff. Put a Jake Stapleton on either a trials bike or an enduro bike and he will point it up or down anything imaginable and make riding it for several hours look easy 😎 you don't tone your terrain down for riders like that you set out a pro line and watch the magic happen. Some advanced enduro riders are riding trials bikes competitively at the intermediate level within the first year on a trials bike. Ridership numbers representing all class of riders here is Way up in the last 3 years, including frequent practice day sessions, event support rides and in actual competitions. Given a venue the sport has seen a huge growth in talent compared to previous decades, that's the reality here.

You don't know me from Adam. Y'all should lay off the Booze before posting!

That part was very salty and this part "Sorry, that is an absolutely terrible attitude to have. You maybe dont realise it, but you are undenibaly driving people away from trials with an attitude like that." <- wtf

And from your salty post, curious where the other 1% of your trials events are held, do you have a really big boat?

Canadian here. And our CMA rule book states the following: Q-141 Conduct. (a) No riding on the course within ten (10) days prior to the event. Q-140 Scoring (section d Other Penalties) #3 - Practising on the course within 10 days prior to the event, and/or on the day of the event = Disqualification. Not saying it's a good rule but it is the rule if we want to host a CMA sanctioned event. @faussy yes, indeed my considerable experience with building trials events are unique to me and holy talk about attitude 🙄 I sure hope you do more then just show up to ride at events.

Not so crazy, when I was 6 years old I taught a chimpanzee to play hide and seek and to ride my tricycle.

Test between brown and white and then between brown and blue, I think blue is the light and white is the ignition if the meter agrees then white goes to points and condenser and blue to the light and horn. Next step would be to assemble and spin the motor to do a voltage test and see what comes out.

If it's just a multi-tap transformer then the ignition will be the first and the longest winding will be the lighting coil output I should think. That way if the light coil burn out you would potentially not be stranded. Does that make sense with your meter testing? the lighting coil I would predict to have a higher resistance value

How many wires are physically connected to the coil, we can't tell if the one white wire goes to the coil or just under it, if you have 3 wires exiting the coil that is potentially a combined lighting and ignition coil, only two wires would be just an ignition coil. Lighting coil will have measurable resistance separate from the ignition coil and one wire common to both those.

The most basic wiring diagram that is similar to what you have right in front of you is a chainsaw. Wire it just like a chainsaw. search 'chainsaw points wiring diagram' the first images that show will work.

That was my first thought even if it is not such a good idea. Securing or spring loading something to a brake line is just asking for trouble.

We see one coil so this must be for ignition, that (single phase) coil should have a measurable resistance of one or two ohms. The photo doesn't really show where the solid white and the green/yellow wires go, so the white wire that is spliced into the blue wire plus the brown wire appear to be the AC output from the coil. Do an ohm meter test between the blue and brown wires, if you see one or two ohms resistance across those two wires that is the coil winding you are measuring.

There is one more group of riders that should not go over-looked, there are some riders that absolutely insist on riding above their ability, they literally insist they are advanced riders and then complain that the advanced line is too hard. We try to convince them they should ride the line that they never championed in (Intermediate) but it falls on deaf ears and they just bad mouth &/or stop attending our events. As the event organizer I have no time for that nonsense, ride the line that is appropriate and set out for your skill level, you are not that good, if you bump yourself up 2 lines and fail that is on you.

You only missed one small point, I host events in support of out TdN (Trial des Nations) team effort. Any small amount of proceeds collected here go to support our TdN team and I build events to replicate TdN competitions as closely as possible, for example 'no stop' rule has prompted me to build sections that can be ridden no stop. Five lines of difficulty still exist here except the Novice line is in the entrance and out the exit with no requirement to observe gates within the section, Junior, Intermediate, Advanced (former Expert) and then for National events I add a Pro line. Pro line is the Champion class and to determine how difficult the Pro line is I have a GP (Guinea Pig) rider, if JoshJosh can ride it I include it in the Pro line event. Sections are completely enclosed with tape, occasionally we add a Novice exit gate within that boundary tape to exit the Novice riders and avoid the hardest part. Practicing the sections is indeed against the rules, 2 weeks prior to the event the sections remain untouched as per the rules. You can't have the sections tracked up and trashed minutes before the real event starts. If you just want to lower all the scores then don't include as many loops (Novice only do 3 loops) or go with best 3 out of 4 loops if you wish but that certainly doesn't make the event results any easier to tabulate. At one event some two decades ago I set out 2 complete Trial event loops of 12 sections each, at that time it was 3 lines of difficulty for modern bikes and skilled riders plus 3 lines of Vintage and Novice friendly sections. Absolutely nobody rode any of the Vintage sections, it was a total waste of my time to set out the 12 additional sections, but after the event concluded I did field complaints about the modern sections being too difficult for some. When I asked why they elected to ride the more difficult sections and not the event sections that were specifically tailored for their riding they responded 'we wanted to ride the same sections as everybody else' which was basically stupid because that was why the sections were above their skill or twin-shock bike reality. I will never do that again. Note on cheating; we know who the cheaters are and we know how and when they cheat, generally we just accept that as par for the course. I recall one event where I placed 3rd. and when I confronted the first and second place winners with 'how did you guys do so well in the hardest section' and then determined they were partner checking and both missed the hardest gates in the hardest section, their response was not to own up to the 5's in that section it was 'it's a shame we didn't all ride the same event' 🤔

Had that same problem, nobody to ride with but I worked past that and here's how; First off, nobody is making a living out of building Trials events and contrary to some notions, the events are not built by or financially supported by the sanctioning organizations such as CMA which is FIM in Canada, they are little more then insurance brokers that just happen to keep some records of past event results and collect competition license fees, their rule books are out of date and they have neither the motivation or the expertise to do much else. Realistically as the organizer it costs me time and money out of pocket every occasion I host an event, so if you are not doing this for the totally selfish reason of having others to ride with, then give it up now. 'All on public or other people's private land', is extremely unlikely to work, been there done that, if you don't 100% control a venue with challenging natural terrain it will not end up being a long-term sustainable Trials group. You get no sympathy from me about your age because I am older than you and intend to continue riding to at least 80 assuming I'm still vertical by then. You can't make Observed Trials Competition any more attractive to new riders by structuring the events specifically towards novice riders, been there, done that, what has worked successfully for us here is hosting several Hard Enduro events in recent years, which has attracted a dozen or more new riders primarily wanting to cross-train on Trials bikes to get better at riding their Enduro bikes. What usually sells Enduro riders on riding Trials bikes is when they try to follow somebody like myself (a senior citizen) for a while and can't. What motivates those Enduro riders to support our Trials events for things like checkers is by making their ability to ride Enduro bikes here commensurate with supporting our Trials competition events. Historically the one person that helps me the most in hosting competition events is my wife and she doesn't even ride any more so I'm not sure why she does it, I think maybe she loves me. Once you start building and hosting events you will experience lots of people thanking you, plenty of criticism, loads of lame suggestions on how to do it better and even the need to deal with event security, because believe it or not some individuals may attend your events with nefarious or harmful intent.

Got it, you don't want to ride in events because you don't like the format 😐 and you are not being critical of the people that build them 😎 guessing few here have previously hosted or are planning to host any future events, indeed, we are all different. I'm still cleaning up after the last one and planning the next one, which requires a great deal of riding and planning, and I'm good with that.

I think y'all should go out and start building and hosting Trials events, then you don't even need to ride the stuff competitively and you can show us how it's done 👍