old trials fanatic

I remember a few people when buying a new trials bike, as it happens a Honda, asking that the invoice showed it as two generators.

Hi Andy. Good luck and hopefully better weather than last year. Enjoy a great event. Amazing how many 3 speed Bantams are riding though. Great to see the old 3 speed Bantam being so popular. Nite nite Andy

Must admit I've never had a problem with "moving" a bike that was "parked" at the head of the queue. Sometimes they just fell on the ground as I rode past or might have got knocked inadvertently as I manoeuvred into position to start my attempt. Typical ignorant "Experts" who should know better. Sometimes even the plug caps came loose

Falcon will rebuild yours to your specific requirements. Think they quoted me around £150 but best to check.

I always buy my bearings from a local supplier. I've NEVER been sold a pair just buy as many as I want. Don't get what you mean. Sorry

Charlie and Deryk.

One that you can get a piston to fit ?

This proves my point when the anoraks are going endlessly on about original machines, we need more original bikes in the Scottish P65 etc etcWho in their right mind would even try to ride the Scottish on THAT ! You'd struggle in a Club trial round our way! If riding bikes like that float your boat first try medication then petition for a return to the sections of the day before trying to make bikes like that ride todays sections.

I agree with woody. The thing is most of us ride our bike and constantly upgrade and modify our bike's to make them perform better which after all is what it's all about isn't it? It's not like ordering a part for your car these are competition motor cycles and even the factory fitted different bits to seemingly same models. Just depended on what was lying around at the time. Easy to measure first and save returning bits isn't it?

bit like people persisting in riding the Expert route when it's patently clear they cant ride like one and then they moan it's too hard

Probably explains a lot about teenagers behaviour looking like a fool with your pants on the ground

Seem to remember Rolls Royce had to change the name of one of their cars the Silver Mist because it meant 5hit in some markets. Also Nova meant no go in others which is possibly why Vauxhall changed to Corsa ?

Heard on the grapevine that the mysterious Spanish businessman is very keen for their first venture to be to build a Scottish pre65 legal Classic bike and it will be ridden this year by Dougie and will fly through scrutineering. Final amendments to the eligibility "rules" are being made as we speak which is why he is staying incognito. Remember you heard it here first.

no,no,yes,no and I seriously doubt the bantams this year will comply with number 3 !

Sounds to me more like milking the subsidies gravy train yet again for all that it's worth. Once the subsidies run out then that's it.

Now just let me try and get my head around this statement. So it's ok to use a billet yoke made in 2014 that resembles nothing in use prior to December 31st 1964 but NOT ok to use the more "modern" yokes made in the early 1970's or even before the 1970's ???????? sorry but I'm struggling I really am with the concept. Must be a Scottish mindset. At the end of the day at least we all get a good laugh out of the twists and turns of the organisers trying to justify their twisted logic and selective myopia re certain bikes when ridden by certain people. Is it this daft with ALL Scottish clubs at their trials? If so no wonder they are struggling.

You sound like you have inside information so who is it ?

Charlie as I said it's an era thing. We ride different stuff to what they rode then and we know a LOT more about how to make a bike work than they did then plus even your average Joe public has equipment in his shed that only specialists did back then so would be easy to improve, first thing to go would be that god awful seat, but the bike was fine for the period I suppose but I bet a Bultaco would run rings round it even then. You know me Charlie I don't give a monkeys about history but I understand that some guys do. Just my humble two pennorth and FWIW I cant think of much I would keep apart from some of the engine bits because just about everything else can be improved on. But and it's a BIG but that was then and this is now. If I was building one NOW I wouldn't bother looking at that bike other than to remind me how far we have come since those dark days when the world was all black and white. If anybody has built one that's a replica of bikes of that period and it floats your boat then good luck to you. The beauty to me of Classic Trials is that we can now do what we ALL wanted to do back then and improve the breed as much and as frequently as we are humanly able to. Merry Christmas Charlie we both love our sport but from a different perspective.

I seem to remember that Woody had a Majesty with one fitted a while back but I may be wrong ?

Perhaps in it's era but I cant help looking at it and wanting to attack it with an angle grinder and a welder. Just me I suppose it just looks so basic like a home brewed lash up compared to todays creations. Now THEY are a work of art. then again horses for courses. Think I can hear the mob with the torches coming down the lane to burn me at the stake

As the year draws to a close with Christmas in the wings the 2013 Peak Classic Trials Club Championship did likewise with Round 11 taking place at Burrycliffe Quarry near Elton, Derbyshire. Considering there was a dates clash with another local club the turn out of riders who chose to support us was heartening. 4 laps of 10 sections was the order of the day and the recent inclement weather had a day off and though cold it stayed dry for the event and the sections were challenging but a lot of cleans were recorded. Simon Critchley riding his Majesty had a good ride on the Expert route to win on a respectable score of 22 ahead of his close friend and traveling buddy Simon Bown riding his Fantic who finished on 44. The Classic Expert British Bike class has been poorly supported this year but Peter Carson had his usual stylish ride to take the win not just on the day but in the class overall for the 2013 Championship. Well ridden Peter. Tony Sprinks rode well again to win the Classic Expert Twinshock class and the Class Championship win riding his Bultaco to a respectable score of 44 followed into second by Peter Kearsley, Honda, on 52. A fitting finish to a hard fought Championship. Another rider clinching the win on the day along with the class Championship award was Colin Fray on his Dot in the Intermediate British Bike category with a loss of just 21 marks. Intermediate Twinshock was a bit closer fought with three riders vying for the honours on the day with Colin Slater taking his Bultaco to the top slot on 15 closely followed by Phillip Higgins, Ossa, on 19 and Keiran McDaid riding a Fantic in third on 21. Classic Intermediate British Bike was a little better supported with 4 riders looking for the ever elusive win but the honours went to Paul Beswick on his James with a score of 4 marks lost followed into second by an infrequent but always welcome visitor to our trials in the shape of Werner Eckel riding his pre war Japette who lost a very respectable 34 marks which considering the bike is a rigid with girder forks and almost no ground clearance was a fantastic ride. Third sport was claimed by Rob Goodwin on his Francis Barnett along with second place in the Championship with a loss of 40. Well ridden guys. Great to see Steve Fletcher ride his TY 175 Yamaha to the win in the Classic Intermediate Twinshock class with a loss of just 3 marks and secure 2nd place in the Championship in the process. Following on is second place was Kevin Rivington on a TY250 just taking the place against Championship winner John Morley, Honda, both losing 7 marks with Kevin taking 2nd on the tie break. Close guys well ridden. Which leaves us with the Clubman classes. Arthur Tomkinson riding a totally standard Greeves Scottish took the win along with the Championship honours with a fine ride to lose just 5 marks keeping young Harry Lyons, Bantam, in second place on 10 marks. The finishing order on the day mirroring the final Championship positions. Nice to see Peter Cotterill bring his Bantam to a fine third place with a loss of 18 marks. Final category is Clubman Twinshock with the win in both the Championship and on the day going to Glyn ridgeway on his Ossa with a loss of 15 marks from Michael Fletcher, Yamaha, riding in his first year and he lost just 45 marks which all bodes well for next season when we are looking for great things from him not just in the class but also the Club youth Championship. The top three was rounded off by Tony Fray, Yamaha, who finished off a good year with a loss of 50 marks to take third on the day and second in the Club Championship. So that brings the season to an end. We would like to thank everybody who has supported us through the year and congratulate the riders for all their efforts and of course the observers who gave of their time to help us enjoy our sport all the more by their presence. We ALWAYS need more observers so if you can please come along next year and join in the fun. For full results and Championship standings please visit our website www.peakclassic.co.uk our next trial round 1 of the 2014 Club Championship will be at Clifton near Ashbourne on January 19th start time as always 11.00 am. See you there. Expert twinshock 1st Simon Critchley Majesty 22 marks 2nd Simon Bown Fantic 44 marks 3rd Phil Sibley Honda 94 marks Classic Expert British Bike 1st Peter Carson Bantam 12 mark Classic Expert Twinshock 1st Tony Sprinks Bultaco 44 marks 2nd Peter Kearsley Honda 52 marks Classic Expert Air Cooled Mono 1st Gary Martin Yamaha 29 marks Intermediate British Bike 1st Colin Fray Dot 21 marks Intermediate Twinshock 1st Colin Slater Bultaco 15 marks 2nd Phillip Higgins Ossa 19 marks 3rd Keiran McDaid Fantic 21 marks Intermediate Air Cooled Mono 1st Nick Burton Yamaha 11 marks Classic Intermediate British Bike 1st Paul Beswick James 4 marks 2nd Werner Eckel Japette 34 marks 3rd Rob Goodwin Francis Barnett 40 marks Classic Intermediate Twinshock 1st Steven Fletcher Yamaha 3 marks 2nd Kevin Rivington Yamaha 7 marks 3rd John Morley Honda 7 marks Clubman British Bike 1st Arthur Tomkinson Greeves 5 marks 2nd Harry Lyons Bantam 10 marks 3rd Peter Cotterill Bantam 18 marks Clubman Twinshock 1st Glyn Ridgeway Ossa 15 marks 2nd Michael Fletcher Yamaha 45 marks 3rd Tony Fray Yamaha 50 marks

Just shows how far we have moved on ...................... thank god

OK FWIW forget which bike you are wanting to go for. First and foremost decide the sort of trials you want to ride. I have personally known loads of people who have gone out and bought a bike and found out the sort of events they then enter are either so far above them that they can not envisage ever being able to aspire let alone ride at that level. Their only recourse then is to sell the bike usually at a loss. That's genuine advice mate and very important. For example the SSDT the Alvie trial and the Scottish P65 are all as different as chalk and cheese and are all happening within your target area. So if you really want to give trials a go think very carefully about the sort of event you want to ride in before you commit to a type of bike. Just my two pennorth

Well with Christmas on final approach we will be holding round 11 the final round of our 2013 Club championship at Burycliffe Quarry, Elton near Matlock this Sunday 22nd December start time as usual will be 11.00am With quite a few of the Championship positions still undecided competition for those elusive Championship points should be fierce. So with classes for British Bikes, Pre85 Twinshocks and Pre95 Air Cooled Monos plus routes for Expert, Classic Expert, Intermediate, Classic Intermediate and Clubman riders there is something for everyone. So to hell with the Christmas shopping you deserve a day off with your bike in the beautiful Derbyshire Peak National Park and where better than this ever popular venue ? For more details visit our website www.peakclassic.co.uk See you there oh yes and please bring an observer if you can

Are you trying to say that Americans aint got no sophistication like LOLFind that hard to believe