old trials fanatic

And the majority of our entries at our trials still come from the same catchment demographic. a very good point which I don't recall being made before. Loads of trials bikes were sold to farmers and their families / workforce. This is most definitely NOT the case anymore. Good PoV

thanks for that but do you know what jets should be fitted to a Mikuni VM28 to use as a starting point ? Carb was supplied by Motocarb who was told what it was for but jetting is a mile out. I need to get it right which was why I asked. thanks

Seem to remember somebody asking the other day about jetting for a VM28 Mikuni on a 199B but I cant find the post. I've got one fitted to one but runs like poo so just wondering if anybody knew a starting point for jetting the carb as it feels week. Don't have any spare Mikuni jets so will have to order and they aint cheap so just wondering what is the starting point on jets slide etc. Thanks

Why not we are getting bigger entries year on year unlike so many of the local "modern" clubs

Copemech well said

Mine seemed to have more neutrals than gears

Sometimes it’s not just the course that helps to make a grand day out trialing in the beautiful Derbyshire Peak district but the weather can turn a grim day into a grin day and last Sunday 26th was most definitely a big grin day for the riders who came along to Dudwood Farm to support the Peak Classic Trials Club who held Round 4 of their club championship at this ever popular venue. For once the going was dry and grippy which meant that concentration was paramount because a lazy 5 could destroy your chances of a good result. The Expert Twinshock category was very closely contested and a slack 5 nearly cost Simon Hiscock, Fantic, the win as he was challenged by Ian Margetts also Fantic mounted all the way to the end which resulted in Simon taking the spoils by the closest of margins just the one point. Local ace Stephen Bisby, Ossa, making a rare appearences at one of our events followed along in third on 15 points but the day really went to Simon and Ian with that close fought battle almost like a motorised game of chess asking the question who’s going to blink first. On the Classic Expert British Bike route Peter Carson was out on his twinshock Bantam instead of his usual rigid but still took a commanding win over Tiger Cub mounted Richard Turner with a stunning ride losing just 1 point on section 5 a long meandering ride up a rock strewn stream bed with a sting in the tail of a short sharp climb over loose rocks covered in a liberal dose of Derbyshire mud. Great ride Pete ! Classic Expert Twinshock was comprehensively sewn up by current Championship leader and last years winner Anthony Sprinks on his Bultaco who had an excellent ride losing just 29 marks from Michael Atmore, Fantic, who lost 35 to take second place. By far and away the best ride in the Intermediate class must be Colin Fray on his bog standard Dot complete with leading link forks who showed everybody how it’s done taking 1st place with a miserly loss of only 7. Super result Colin ! Intermediate Twinshock was won by Deane Wakeling , Fantic, for a loss of 9 marks which was also an excellent ride keeping current Intermediate Championship leader David Pattison back in second place on his Bultaco on 15 points. Nice to see Jim Wickstead have a good ride on his BSA to win the Classic Intermediate British Bike class with a loss of only 9 marks beating the course setter Paul Beswick into second place on his James. Classic Intermediate Twinshock saw a close battle with Peter Austin, Bultaco, and Honda mounted Sean Wickstead taking it right to the flag with both riders losing just 2 marks and sharing the win and Championship points. All in all a good day for the Wickstead clan. Which brings us to Clubman British Bike and a battle of the over 60’s with Arthur Tomkinson on a very original looking Greeves complete with leading link front end taking the winners laurels ahead of Ray Critchlow on his Tiger Cub and Dave Pickering on his Francis Barnett all having an enjoyable battle along the way. Last but by no means least the Clubman Twinshock competition was won by Kev Rivington on his Yamaha from Glyn Ridgeway having a good ride after an off on the first section of the day breaking his clutch lever but not letting a small thing like that stop him from taking second place ahead of Tony Fray on his TY250 Yamaha. So a bank holiday outing was made all the more special by the kind weather and the smiles were as wide as they could be at the end of a well supported event. Lets hope this will be the template for the rest of the Championship season. A big thank you goes out to all the observers who helped make everything run more smoothly. Looking forward to seeing you at the next round which will be at Carsons farm on June 30th. See you there ? Expert Twinshock 1st Simon Hiscock Fantic 7 marks 2nd Ian Margetts Fantic 8 marks 3rd Stephen Bisby Ossa 15 marks Expert Pre95 Air Cooled Mono 1st Dale Shaw Yamaha 54 marks Classic Expert British Bike 1st Peter Carson Bantam 1 mark 2nd Richard Turner Tiger cub 23 marks 3rd Rob Mellor Tiger cub 27 marks Classic Expert Twinshock 1st Anthony Sprinks Bultaco 29 marks 2nd Michael Atmore Fantic 35 marks 3rd Ian Bend Bultaco 50 marks Classic Expert Pre95 Air Cooled Mono 1st Tim Gent Beta 30 marks Intermediate British Bike 1st Colin Fray Dot 7 marks Intermediate Twinshock 1st Deane Wakling Fantic 9 marks 2nd David Pattison Bultaco 15 marks 3rd Roger Worsley Yamaha 25 marks Classic Intermediate British Bike 1st Jim Wickstead BSA 9 marks 2nd Paul Beswick James 10 marks Classic Intermediate Twinshock 1st Peter Austin Bultaco 2 marks 1st Sean Wickstead Honda 2 marks 3rd John Morely Honda 6 marks Clubman British Bike 1st Arthur Tomkinson Greeves 25 marks 2nd Ray Critchlow Tiger cub 39 marks 3rd David Pickering Francis Barnett 41 marks Clubman Twinshock 1st Kev Rivington Yamaha 18 marks 2nd Glyn Ridgeway Ossa 25 marks 3rd Tony Fray Yamaha 49 marks

Well what a difference a day makes Friday I was wet and cold what with the hail and rain yuk. Now today brilliant sunshine So 4 laps of 10 sections with some super stream challenges along with rocks, climbs and tree roots for good measure. Will be a super day out for you and your bike in the wonderful Derbyshire Peak district. Come on and join in the fun at Dudwood farm. See you there.

This bank holiday Sunday sees the Peak Classic Trials club holding round 4 of their Club Championship at the ever popular venue of Dudwood Farm, Elton, Near Matlock, Derbyshire. Classes for British Bikes, Pre 85 Twinshocks and Pre95 air cooled momos. Routes for Expert, Classic Expert, Intermediate, Classic Intermediate and Clubman riders Start time 11.00 am with 4 laps of 10 sections in the stream and woods of this excellent Derbyshire Peak District venue. As usual one of our sponsors, PB Trialsport, will be there with trials accessories and consumables on sale. See you there.

Why not just lengthen the arm or move the anchor point ?

So the writing on the tyre wall is the ONLY thing you would have to be concerned about on the "legal" front ? Yeah right. good luck making your choice whether to be competitive or "legal" LOL

The difference is most clubs rules clearly state no hydraulic controls. The other "mods" whatever they are assuming the bikes in question are not deemed illegal must therefore be inline with the relevant clubs rules. That's simple isn't it ?Had a couple turn up at our trial in the past just put them down as ineligible machine on the results. Again simple really.

As woody said all depends on if you are serious about riding trials or you just want to ride it on the road. What I don't get is if you want to ride it on the road why 1. get a trials bike and 2. why not fit road / trail tyres. Just don't get it either you want to ride trials in which case fit IRC or you don't in which case fit Pirelli, V rubber or any of the other crap masquerading as trials tyres. Oh well

As it stands approx. £3000 to £4000 depending on the wind direction. Make a nice garage queen but too expensive to convert to a useable trials cub. But if polishing is what floats your boat then ?

BTW same restriction applies to the clutch.

Deffinately NOT a James replica unless it's a replica of a frame a bloke called James made in his shed.

Quite possibly but here in the UK, I don't know about the rest of the world, most bikes that are fitted with drum brakes are either P65 or Twinshocks and hydraulic controls are ruled illegal modifications with most clubs.

Falcon will do it for you.

Please tell me this is a wind up ?

Thanks Ian appreciate that

Firstly it's Alan Whitton as in AW Race Engineering 07711218818 but don't call him till after the Scottish because like most P65 riders and enthusiasts he's off to Scotland but when he gets back I am sure he will be able to help you out. Sorry I don't have Ray or Max's numbers. These guys are swamped with work and are too busy to waste time on or need flashy websites. Basically if you are involved in P65 you soon get to know who you need to know. Word of mouth after all is the best form of advertising. If you are at the Scottish 2 day just check out how many of the top competitors use Alans stuff. Just saying as I am a satisfied customer and have always had good service and quality components from him.