old trials fanatic

Well said Charlie as an aside i have also posted this on my and the clubs facebook pages and quite a few people have shared it to their pages also so hopefully we are covering as wide a population of Classic and Trials enthusiasts as possible. I agree that normally the van would have been found by now possibly burnt out but nowadays a lot of vehicles including perfectly good servicable ones are being broken up as they are worth more in parts than they are as a vehicle. The same thing was very prevalent a few years ago with superbikes that were being stolen just for the plastics which were then sold on and were nigh on untraceable. This very nearly saw the end of high performance road bikes until people wised up that every part you bought at an auto jumble or no questions asked only fuelled the problem. As you say now P65 has become so expensive have the low life scum tagged on to the fact that there is money to be made here? Makes you wonder how many people at Telford and other shows are "clocking" whats available and making notes? As i've said before i've had stuff nicked off my stall at trials and it really saddens me to think it could be anybody i ride with and who i think of as friends. How long will it be before a bike gets nicked at a trial? I've had friends had bikes nicked off the carrier on the back whilst visiting the loo on motorways or parked outside their mums. I just hope and prey it's not a "fellow" trials "enthusiast" who now "owns" the parts. It does make you wonder sometimes if it's all worth it.

First you got to catch them then we can sort the eyes out.

Piccy of the Bantam rolling chassis that was stolen along with many Cub parts from Alans van when it too was stolen yesterday. Lets hope these low life pariahs arent stealing pre65 stuff to order now.

Sadly as yet no news is bad news and no sign of either the stolen van or the pre 65 parts that were inside has been recieved so not looking good and sadly it is beginning to look as if these were possibly stolen to order which is an option that not only saddens me but deeply worries me as Classic and pre 65 Trials riders i have always thought were a good bunch. In a previous post i informed as many as i could about Alan Whitton having his van stolen and that inside the van was the Bantam rolling chassis he had on show at Telford as a showcase for the parts he sells. Alan didnt have any photos at the time of this but someone has kindly responded to our request for a piccy so that hopefully all Trials Central members can keep an eye out for any scumbag trying to move it or any parts on and then notify us or the Police so that these parasites can be caught and hopefully delt with. Remember your bike or garage may be next if we dont do something about these pirahas. Please have a look and keep your eyes open if you are offered anything or are at an autojumble or even know of somebody "aquireing" a Bantam or cub parts, remember they were stolen at the same time also.

Akront as fitted to most european bikes seem ok but DID and other Japanese rims are suspect.

In a previous post i informed as many as i could about Alan Whitton having his van stolen and that inside the van was the Bantam rolling chassis he had on show at Telford as a showcase for the parts he sells. Alan didnt have any photos at the time of this but someone has kindly responded to our request for a piccy so that hopefully all Trials Central members can keep an eye out for any scumbag trying to move it or any parts on and then notify us or the Police so that these parasites can be caught and hopefully delt with. Remember your bike or garage may be next if we dont do something about these pirahas. Please have a look and keep your eyes open if you are offered anything or are at an autojumble or even know of somebody "aquireing" a Bantam or cub parts, remember they were stolen at the same time also.

Think it might refer to Jons long term project Serrow.There's a guy, Chris Millner, locally who has stuck a serrow motor in a TY250 mono and a very nice bike it is too. Lovely soft motor reminiscent of a TLR in a sweet handling chassis. Good parts availability and electric start. If you stall it just hit the button and ride on. Sure as hell saves a lot of 5's.

Agreed mate. Serves as a reminder to us all about what we have in our vans and garages and that there are scum out there who may have designs on it. As trials riders we all tend to be very trusting especially amongst each other but so many people have been around to Alans and know he has stuff in his van normally that this has to serve as a reminder to us all to be vigalent. Amazing when you think how we all at a trial just lean the bike up against a tree and walk off. Surprising one has'nt "disappeared" at a Trial. I've had stuff nicked off my stall under my very nose when dealing with a customer. Only at the end of the day when i came to pack up did i notice what went missing.

Sorry to post this in this forum but i've just had a call from a distraught Alan Whitton who this morning has had his van stolen a white Transit connect LWB reg NC 56 KKN now Alan is less bothered about his van because insurance will sort that out but inside was his Bantam rolling chassis that he had on his stand at Telford show along with some Triumph Tiger Cub heads and various parts. Alan dosent have any photos of the rolling chassis and needs some for the Police so if ANYBODY has any piccys at all of the Bantam frame from Telford show could they please either post them on here or let me have them and i will forward them to Alan. Obviously if you know of anybody offering any cub parts or a Bantam frame for sale please let us know. The frame is very trick and easily identifyable as are the wheels that have Alan's own billet alloy hubs which have been anodised gunmetal and the spoke flanges have been scolloped between the spoke holes along with Alans own modified forks and Billet alloy yokes etc. The cub heads have been blasted and look like new. Alan Whitton is a well known person in Classic circles and has helped many many of you who use this forum nows the time to all pull together and help him. thank you.

Sorry to post this in this forum but i've just had a call from a distraught Alan Whitton who this morning has had his van stolen a white Transit connect LWB reg NC 56 KKN now Alan is less bothered about his van because insurance will sort that out but inside was his Bantam rolling chassis that he had on his stand at Telford show along with some Triumph Tiger Cub heads and various parts. Alan doesent have any photos of the rolling chassis and needs some for the Police so if ANYBODY has any piccys at all of the Bantam frame from Telford show could they please either post them on here or let me have them and i will forward them to Alan. Obviously if you know of anybody offering any cub parts or a Bantam frame for sale please let us know. The frame is very trick and easily identifyable as are the wheels that have Alan's own billet alloy hubs which have been anodised gunmetal and the spoke flanges have been scolloped between the spoke holes along with Alans own modified forks and Billet alloy yokes etc. The cub heads have been blasted and look like new. Alan Whitton is a well known person in Classic circles and has helped many many of you who use this forum nows the time to all pull together and help him. thank you.

Sorry to post this in this forum but i've just had a call from a distraught Alan Whitton who this morning has had his van stolen a white Transit connect LWB reg NC 56 KKN now Alan is less bothered about his van because insurance will sort that out but inside was his Bantam rolling chassis that he had on his stand at Telford show along with some Triumph Tiger Cub heads and various parts. Alan dosent have any photos of the rolling chassis and needs some for the Police so if ANYBODY has any piccys at all of the Bantam frame from Telford show could they please either post them on here or let me have them and i will forward them to Alan. Obviously if you know of anybody offering any cub parts or a Bantam frame for sale please let us know. The frame is very trick and easily identifyable as are the wheels that have Alan's own billet alloy hubs which have been anodised gunmetal and the spoke flanges have been scolloped between the spoke holes along with Alans own modified forks and Billet alloy yokes etc. The cub heads have been blasted and look like new. Alan Whitton is a well known person in Classic circles and has helped many many of you who use this forum nows the time to all pull together and help him. thank you.

You can use a tubeless with a tube but as i said some makes of rim will not take a tubeless tyre at low pressure and the tyre will just roll off the rim.

A lot depends on the rims you have. Some rims designed for tubed tyres dont take kindly to tubeless tyres when run at low pressure. I am reliably informed that IRC tyres will be docking early March and should be available for mid to late March. What happened was the importer sold out and the reorder took longer than expected to be despatched so we are all in the same boat being out of stock losing sales with tyres on back order. Do i find it annoying yeah just a bit !!! but nothing can be done. If you can wait till March then supplies should be back to normal at your local dealer. Hope that helps ?

Exactly finally someone has got the point.

I suppose the point is if thats the case the construction and use regs come into play. Lets remember all the mot says is that at the time of the test the vehicle presented passed. I remember when i was a teenager and for my sins ran Lambrettas there was a group of us that used to swap wheels etc to just get it through the mot then immeadiately changed them back. Only one set of legal tyres between the lot of us. Also for instance even with the current mot there is nothing to prove the vehicle that passed the brake test and emmisions is the one presented for test. You could always wheel a car in for those parts that you know will pass to get a result but thats not what jon V8 is getting at and i sort of agree with his point but in reality how many vehicles are we talking about nationwide in any given year?

Only thing i would have to change is that bloody Terry Weedy kickstart as they always remind me of the crank you use to open lock gate sluices on the canal. Anybody know how much the frame kit is as his Bantam ones are very competitively priced and i'd like to bet Jims C15 will undercut the Faber, probably better finished from the sound of it too, considerably. Altogether a nice machine and it looks pretty period too.

very nice indeed.

Thing is ross if there's no time limit then why shouldnt you hang back it's not as if you are going to get penalised anymore is it? Minefield. Pete's done the right thing but so many others are trying to circumnavigate the MSA and i cant help but feel they are going to come unstuck at some point. Plus if no set route you can attempt groups when you feel you will have the best advantage. Pity the poor observers as i suppose they will have to sit there all day too. At what point do they say sod this and go home? Going to be tears

I was wondering what the hell a "triple tree" was? I assume you mean fork yokes ? dont get where the triple or even tree comes into it but interesting problem now i know what you're on about. Never had the problem myself but please keep us posted as to the outcome. What with triple trees and perches, allegedly the part of a brake or clutch lever that clamps to the handlebar, LOL you colonials are so funny (only joking guys).

Me and you both

Hmmm skillful possibly but without fast forward not the most enthralling watch.

Well put copemech. Simply put the machine must maintain forward motion in relation to the section. The wheels can stop rotating as in locked up whilst descending a slippery gully etc but forward motion must be maintained at all times. One thing that seems to be glossed over a lot is the fact that with the introduction to non stop the type of sections ridden would have to be different to ones used where stop is allowed. It would be silly to expect a rider to ride the sections currently used in that configuration in a non stop allowed way. Non stop requires section setters to think a bit more not just take the easy option of sticking a big step in with no run up etc. Time to make the sections technically challenging to make the riders think with their heads not their bo11ocks. The main skill which is sadly lacking in a lot of modern riders is the ability to see a line through the entire section and then ride it. they have become too accustomed to riding 3ft stop hop line up ride 3ft stop hop line up etc. Perhaps as an extra benifit we can now get rid of those bloody minders and catchers !

Sorry Pete my error.

Well done Pete. Mamouth task completed and approval obtained. I'm sure all that will be of great help to other organisers. Just now got to make sure everybody complys to the letter with the authourisation, see totalshells post above, especially the bit about route and the legality of the riders and bikes competing which is as we all know a very grey area when some trials riders and their bikes are concerned. However big respect due for all your hard work especially the contacting in person of every home owner within 500m of the route and sections i definately didnt envy you that one. The event definately deserves to be the massive sucess i am sure it will be.

Tony you're a star thats EXACTLY the same as mine fantastic. Thanks mate