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Well been there today and laid out most of the sections. Will finish off tomorrow. Had a few showers while i was there and yes it's wet so have taken this into account. Weather forcast is a nice day tomorrow so should dry out a bit but will keep everything wide and no steep climbs because of the conditions. Looking forward to a good turnout on Sunday going from the number of calls received today. Remember parking can be an issue so come early and have a great day out in the Derbyshire Peaks.

Agreed definately running out of options. Be nice to hear of some positive constructive proposal to move the championship forward instead of just the constant whinging and whining from the hop and bop brigade as gizza5 said it wasnt working before either. Dont get the references to spectators that has been made also as Trials never was a spectator orientated sport. If some people want to spectate then fine if they dont so what. The sport is and always should be about the riders. The opportunity is always there to attend at Rugby but it is always very poorly attended so the riders who are now whinging only have themselves to blame. I suppose they will be queueing out the door and standing in the aisles this time at Rugby?? Yeah and piggys will fly.

Sorry it's a bit late but the trial this Sunday is definately on. OK so we have had a drop or two of rain but will bear that in mind when laying the sections out on Saturday. So if you have a Classic British Bike or a Twinshock and are at a loose end for somewhere to ride this Sunday make your way over to Cookes Wood, Youlgrave and join the fun. Start time is 11.00am and there are classes for British Bikes, Pre85 Twinshocks & Pre95 Air Cooled monos also as always the PB Trialsport sales van will be in attendance for your trials accessories and comsumables. More info tomorrow night after i've laid the course out.

Dont know about the OKO apart from definately NOT Scottish legal. If you are determined to stay Scottish legal the latest carb you can use would be an Amal Mk 1 concentric. Mk 1 1/2 not eligable officially. Dont quite see why the Mk 1 is either but whatever. Best carb seems to be the Dellorto from what local riders tell me but they ahve to change to the Amal for Scotland.

Me too. Well i dont have an AJS but you get my drift

Definately belt and braces then. Can honestly say in all the decades i've been riding only needed a kill switch once. Whatever might just be lucky but if youve ever seen me ride i dont look lucky. Always mount mine in the middle but one of my friends did point out kill switches dont fit fatbars in the middle so have to go one end or tother. As i never have used them i wouldnt know.

With the Club Championship reaching a pivotal point with six rounds decided and six rounds still to be held a good turnout of riders turned up to contest round 7 of this year’s competition held at the ever popular Derbyshire Dales venue of Dudwood Farm near Elton in the heart of the Peak District. 4 laps of 11 sections had been laid out to test the skills of Expert to Clubman rider and all of the five routes and three classes had riders with a story to tell. There was tragedy and elation a plenty with some close fought battles to decide the class winners and with those valuable Championship points at stake the pressure was on. It was nice to see Richard Turner and Rob Mellor, both Tiger Cub mounted, at one of our events again. This time Richard took the honours in the Expert British Bike category with a score of 85 to Robs 91. A close fought battle between two good friends. The Expert Twinshock class was won by an on form Robert Carson, Yamaha 175, who was on fire losing a miserly 10 marks to keep Steven Bisby, Ossa, in second on 25 which when you take into consideration the fact that the Expert route turned out to be quite a bit more testing than intended. Mark Weston won the Expert Pre95 Air Cooled Mono route on his Gas Gas losing a credible 27 marks which ties up the Expert categories. Moving onto the Classic Expert British Bike class Peter Carson out again on his trusty BSA Bantam rigid had his work cut out and had to fight a bit harder than of late to take the class win for a loss of 13 marks 10 of which were lost on the infamous section 10 which included a 3ft rock step which on a rigid Bantam is daunting to say the least. Well done Peter to keep Keith Hobson at bay who lost 18 chasing that top slot. Tony Sprinks on his Bultaco had a disastrous day also on section 10 breaking his rear mudguard and brake lever giving him a serious handicap but he still held on to take the class win on 53 marks from Peter Kearsley, Honda, who was snapping at his heals all day losing 57 marks. Section 10 was definitely the decider with Tony losing 20 marks on that section alone to Peters 16. Intermediate British Bike was to domain of Colin Fray riding his very std looking Dot complete with leading link forks which must have been a handful over the steps, tree roots and stream sections that this venue abounds in. Colin lost just 34 marks along the way which was quite outstanding. The Clubman routes were just as closely contested and it was David Pickering on his Francis Barnett who kept his losses to just 24 to edge Jim Wickstead on his BSA B40 who finished second close behind on 28. So close it was hard to decide just where the class was won and lost with David losing 13 on section 1 to Jims 0 then Jim losing 10 on section 9 where David stayed feet up for 0. Either way a good battle lads. Just as close were Jims son Sean and Paul Smedley both Honda TLR 200 mounted in the Clubman Twinshock class. Sean has been invincible this season with class wins on every outing and this round was no different but Paul kept him honest all the way. Sean lost just 3 to Pauls 8 and the battle could have gone either way so well fought both of you. Focus now moves on to round 8 which will be held at Cookes Wood, Youlgrave near Matlock Derbyshire on Sunday 30th September start time as usual is 11.00. Finally thanks must go out to the landowner Barry Burton who so kindly let us use the land around his home at Dudwood Farm. Also it was great to see a few more observers as we have been struggling of late and this time we had 6 sections manned so thank you everybody who picked up the board and helped make the day the most enjoyable one it turned out to be. Expert British Bike 1st Richard Turner Tiger cub 85 marks 2nd Robert Mellor Tiger cub 91 marks Expert Twinshock 1st Robert Carson Yamaha 175 10 marks 2nd Steve Bisby Ossa 25 marks 3rd Simon Critchley Majesty 38 marks Expert Air Cooled Mono 1st Mark Weston Gas Gas 27 marks Classic Expert British Bike 1st Peter Carson Bantam Rigid 13 marks 2nd Keith Hobson Tiger cub 18 marks Classic Expert Twinshock 1st Anthony Sprinks Bultaco 53 marks 2nd Peter Kearsley Honda 57 marks Intermediate British Bike 1st Colin Fray Dot 34 marks Intermediate Twinshock 1st Steven Eyre SWM 32 marks 2nd Mark Kearsley Yamaha 60 marks Classic Intermediate British Bike 1st Paul Beswick James 1 mark 2nd Neil Walker Francis Barnett 8 marks 3rd Rob Goodwin Francis Barnett 31 marks Classic Intermediate Twinshock 1st Cliff Bradley Majesty 5 marks 2nd John Morley Honda 9 marks 3rd Peter Elvidge Honda 15 marks Clubman British Bike 1st David Pickering Francis Barnett 24 marks 2nd Jim Wickstead BSA B40 28 marks 3rd Peter Cottrell Bantam 58 marks Clubman Twinshock 1st Sean Wickstead Honda 3 marks 2nd Paul Smedley Honda 8 marks 3rd Stephen Baker Yamaha 41 marks

Just give simon Bateman a call at Nametab. Great bloke and his clutch baskets never give a problem and believe me they are very hard. Tried drilling one once gave up!

I know it's late but just a quick note as a reminder that round 7 of our club championship is tomorrow at Dudwood Farm, Elton, Derbyshire. Been laying out yesterday and today and there will be 4 laps of 11 sections to include the stream, grassy banks and the woods with a few choice rocks thrown in for good measure. So if you are at a loose end make the trip to the Derbyshire Peak District and have a great day out with us. Start time is 11.00 entries close at 10:45 ish and there are classes for British Bikes, Pre85 twinshocks and Pre95 Air Cooled Monos with Expert, Classic Expert, Intermediate, Classic Intermediate and clubman routes so something for everyone. See you there?

Dunno the weight but it's bloody heavy. It's not so much the weight though but more the length, steering, shocks and engine response or rather lack of that will make all the difference. The weight is the least matter for comparing.

It was great to see so many new faces at Round 6 of the Club Championship held at Bracken Rocks last Sunday 29th July. The weather forecast foretold of showers around midday however these seemed to bypass around this ever popular Derbyshire Peak District venue and the 4 laps of 10 sections stayed dry all day. The sections were mostly flowing turns around and over the granite rock steps and boulders that give this venue it’s name. The Expert Twinshock route was won decisively by Dave Devereaux on his immaculate Beamish Suzuki with a loss of just the one. His single dab coming on section 3 a deceptively difficult rock strewn slot. Well worth making the long journey to sample the Derbyshire rockery eh Dave? Snapping at his heels were local hot shots Mark Hallows who lost 3 on his Majesty and Rob Carson taking third on his TY200 losing 4. Mark Weston on his Gas Gas was one of only two riders to record clean sheets on the day Mark taking the honours in the Expert Pre95 Air Cooled Mono class and in total contrast as far as machines are concerned evergreen local trials ace Peter Carson also kept his feet firmly on the pegs all day on his rigid BSA Bantam to win the Classic Expert British Bike category most convincingly. In the Classic Expert Twinshock class Ashley Hallows had a great ride on his Yamaha 250 to secure the honours losing just the one mark from an on form Anthony Sprinks, Bultaco, who lost 5 marks with good friend Ian Bend also Bultaco mounted close behind on 7 marks. A ride most definitely worthy of mention was that of Colin Fray on his very std looking Dot c/w leading link forks who took the win in the Intermediate British Bike class loosing a credible 24 marks. Well done Colin it’s no mean feat muscling that beast around. Gary Shield took the top spot for Intermediate Twinshock riders on his Bultaco for a miserly 5 marks. Classic Intermediate British Bike was a close fought fight with Neil Walker, Francis Barnett, just taking it from Paul Beswick, James. Both riders lost just the one mark both on section 6 but Paul lost his on lap 1 and Neil on lap 2 so Neil takes it on furthest clean. That’s tight! Andrew Slack took an easy win in Classic Intermediate Twinshock on his Fantic losing just 2 from Colin Slater, Bultaco, on 22. Jim Wickstead had a “Grand day out” on his BSA B40 taking the win in the Clubman British Bike class for a loss of 19 marks and his son Sean Wickstead, Honda, fought long and hard all day in the Clubman Twinshock class to lose just 3 marks all on section 6 a trip over the rocks and tree roots with a rocky climb that penalised any lapse of concentration. Sadly Seans efforts were just pipped by Mark Newman Fantic mounted who took the honours losing just a solitary dab also on section 6. The final class win up for grabs was the Clubman Pre95 Air Cooled Mono class which was taken by Graham Lyons on his Honda losing just the 6 marks. So all in all another successful round of the Club Championship consigned to the record books and focus moves forward to Dudwood Farm for round 7 on the 19th August start time 11.00 see you there. For more details and Championship updates visit our website www.peakclassic.co.uk Expert Twinshock 1st Dean Deveraux Suzuki 1 mark 2nd Mark Hallows Majesty 3 marks 3rd Rob Carson Yamaha 4 marks Expert Pre95 Air Cooled Mono 1st Mark Weston Gas Gas 0 marks 2nd Danny Littlehales Fantic 2 marks Classic Expert British Bike 1st Peter Carson Bantam 0 marks Classic Expert Twinshock 1st Ashley Hallows Yamaha 1 mark 2nd Anthony Sprinks Bultaco 5 marks 3rd Ian Bend Bultaco 7 marks Classic Expert Pre95 Air Cooled Mono 1st Gary Martin Yamaha 32 marks Intermediate British Bike 1st Colin Fray Dot 24 marks Intermediate Twinshock 1st Gary Shield Bultaco 5 marks 2nd Steve Blackburn Montesa 10 marks 3rd Stephen Eyre SWM 12 marks Intermediate Pre95 Air Cooled Mono 1st Michael Dorricott Honda 7 marks Classic Intermediate British Bike 1st Neil Walker Francis Barnett 1 mark 2nd Paul Beswick James 1 mark 3rd Rob Goodwin Francis Barnett 15 marks Classic Intermediate Twinshock 1st Andrew Slack Fantic 2 marks 2nd Colin Slater Bultaco 22 marks 3rd Peter Austin Montesa 22 marks Clubman British Bike 1st Jim Wickstead BSA B40 19 marks 2nd Peter Cottrell BSA Bantam 59 marks Clubman Twinshock 1st Mark Newman Fantic 1 mark 2nd Sean Wickstead Honda 3 marks 3rd Paul Smedley Honda 13 marks Clubman Pre95 Air Cooled Mono 1st Graham Lyons Honda 6 marks

Well the half way point of the season approaches and Rd 6 of the Peak Classic Trials Club Championship comes to Bracken Rocks, Holloway near Matlock, Derbyshire this Sunday and with fine weather forcast for the day there will hopefully be a good turnout of riders to contest the Championship places up for grabs. As always there will be classes for British Bikes, Pre85 Twinshocks and Pre95 Air cooled monos. Routes for Expert, Classic Expert, Intermediate, Classic Intermediate and Clubman so whatever your level of ability there is something for you. I was down there today and the ground has dried out nicely after all the torrential rain we have had of late so we will have 10 sections over and around rocks and tree roots and even a sandy climb. start time is 11.00 am and entries close 15 mins before the start. Plenty of parking and even a dedicated toilet block. As always the PB Trialsport van will be here for all your trials accessories and consumables. See you there :thumbup:

Economic situation. Schoolkids dont have to pay out of their own pocket dad does. Over 40's are probably lucky enough to have their kids left home and a low mortguage if any. 20/30 have more pressing things on their wallets and sadly trials has to take a back seat as to most people it's a non essential to surviving in this double dip recession. Rejoice that you are still getting a viable entry at all.

I've only known one guy have a good word for them then again he had bought 10 of them and was desperately trying to sell them on locally. Even at £45 he struggled to shift them over a year. Probably lost money on them. Thing is it's ok getting a budget tyre cos youre tight but whats the use if you lose an extra 20 marks a lap or more because of it? A used IRC will grip better than a new Vee rubber every time. OK for trail bikes or field bikes but thats it definately NOT a competition tyre. It's a no brainer really.

The arrows were out when i drove past tonight after the trial so signed from main road.

Renault must be honary Yorkshire men then LOL

Sounds fine advice to me.

In the long run much better to buy a bike already in Trials trim. You will still need to change some of it depending on hoe competitive you are but most of the work will already have been done. converting a road bike to trials trim is a nightmare. Basically all you would keep is the motor, possibly hubs and main frame loop. The rest goes in the skip or back on flea bay.

yeah i know what you mean. Just wondering why the SACU hasnt followed, not that they have to of course, the line taken by the ACU including a class for ACM in their Classic Championship. I assume they have a Classic Championship ? Sorry i'm not that up to speed with the Trials scene in Scotland. It's not a big class down here but worth running but only as long as the sections are created for P65 and Twinshocks. Would have thought it was worth consideration. Alvie excepted as they have made their position clear and i see and agree with their stance on the subject.

Not allowed to comment cos i'm way south of the boarder but

Dont do it Ross. Better to use it or sell it. Twinshocking a mono just makes it a nothing bike and unuseable. At least as an ACM there are trials with classes to ride it in.

Always thought care in the community was a bad idea.