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Totally agree with you the Sherco is an absolute howler (to look at) could be awesome to ride though.. I also think that the Xispa looks nice - dated now as it is cleary Sherco-esque - however it does not ride to great according to people that have owned/tested them, main problem appears to be suspension...

Wait a few months,

Just fantastic! Scary thing is that he is probably practising indoor style like this every other day or so, maybe every day.............So by the time the ITWC rolls round he'll be even better Is Raga back in action yet after his knee op?? If so he wants to be practising EVERY hour of daylight to stop the ITWC turning into the the 'who can come second' competition.

Sorry been off here for past few days, but appears that I dont need to answer this now as a few other people have kindly picked up on the reasons why (IMO) USD will not stay and are not good for a trials bike. Time will tell though

Dont bother with the front IMO. Michelin LOADS better. IRC all the way on the rear though

USD forks do not work for trials. For moto x etc there are big benefits. Would safely bet that by the time we see these are production models they will have the standard Marzocchi's on

Timing could be great.

Almost certainly the clutch basket so nothing to worry about plus you have the benefit of having spoken to Lampkins who are just brilliant all round in or out of warranty.

1: Here here to what Mick Wren wrote. BANG ON the money there. The glory days of the 60's, flat caps and wellies will not return if you make bikes heavier (dear god why would we) and use narrow tyres (again - why?) 2: Isn't the Scottish over subscribed every year?

Tom So did you speak to Shirty about this yet? Intrigued to see what response was. This should be replaced FOC along with an apology no problems as this is a major fault in the construction of that specific frame - warranty or not. There is no way on earth I would want it being welded (nothing to do with strength, integrity etc) I just would expect a new frame. If you did and he disagree's (as he may well have done) speak to GG direct in Spain. Cheers

Dont think there is anything you can compare from 2005 Mont only had 4 stroke Beta only had 2 stroke Sherco did both (I think but that may be 2006) but no one bought the 4 stroke cos they wouldn't start. Think Sherco 4 stroke is / was about 3-4kg heavier but could be wrong

OK maybe there is some valid reasons doing your carb after every ride. QUALITY

Hi, makes perfect sense to me, like I said I am not a bike mechanic / oracle etc etc but as the saying goes - if it aint broke dont fix it. Some people will disagree, however I have seen and heard bikes that do the carb after every ride and they have sounded dog rough. I suspect also that many of the people advertsing that they have done this have probably not actually done it this frequently, however the may feel that a perspective buyer will view their bike as being highly maintained and therefore better than another bike.... I personally would think the opposite but again that's just my opinion. The gasser with the Dellorto carbs generally run brilliantly (from a carb point of view) so I wouldn't fiddle. You will find many different suggestions and attitudes on almost every aspect bike ownership, maintenance, riding etc etc on this forum, the key is to do what you feel is needed to keep you and your bike at its best. Welcome to the sport, good bike choice - enjoy!

2 wonderful, mythical creatures only seen by certain individuals in the wild on their own....

Hi Jordtxt. As below from TooFastTim, some people remove carb after every trial/wash. I am not sure why people do this and from my personal point of view it is a not needed waste of time. The carb is a fully sealed unit and only has fuel running through it. By removing it each time when you dont need to you 1- run the risk of not getting a 100% seal when you put it back on and could then get water, dirt etc into the carb/jets next time you ride and causing a problem and 2- probably have too much time on your hands. The only time you should need to remove and do this is (in my opinion) * if you have water in your airbox from riding/cleaning - this is the way water can get into your carb. No water in airbox = no water in carb - simples! * If your bike is spluttering / not running right - you could have some water in your fuel or taken dirt into a jet etc In 19 years of trials riding I have only ever removed and cleaned my carbs a few times a year. Like I said it is sealed and you can check if you have any carb problems by 1- if bike running fine, its fine, leave it 2- 20 second airbox check will tell you if you need to remove carb.

Hi, Sorry if this is listed elsewhere (I couldn't see it) but last weekends final WTC round in France is on Eurosport 2 (sky ch 411) today @ 16:00 and for those of you at work now unable to get home a record and cursing not seeing this advertised it is also repeated tonight on the same channel @ 22:45 Happy viewing

Obviously one persons opinion will never count for jack (especially with the ACU) BUT if UK trials does go down the stop = 5 rule then I will definitely 100% stop riding trials for the forseeable future. I would think that certainly mant others may do the same If it goes stop = 1 rule I will continue riding and again I would expect 99.9% of riders would do also. I have to agree with Dabster (Again - I must be getting old and sadistic ) this change will not make anyone decide to take trials up. As someone else mentioned clubs have money in their coffers, it must be up to local clubs promoting in local area with centre support and ACU (god help us) promoting (yea right) on a national level. Anyway, when is this change happening? and does anyone know what rule is being enforced?

Says the man with the lightest production trials bike

Andy totally agree with you on this. If the rule of stop = 1 is in place this is OK, it is a choice you would make as a rider and no one could argue the case with observer. If it is this weird North Yorkshire and above (so it appears) rule of stop = 5 then this is not a choice you can make and effectively reduces trials not to a skill where the best rider wins but the person who keeps moving wins. OK the above is a very extreme scenario but is potentially the situation you could get in some trials. Like you say you either fully commit and 'possibly' risk injury and time off work or not bother - how anyone can agree with this is beyond me especially the older riders who I guess (in my non medical opinion) could be more likely to pick up a worse injury or take longer to heal. All I can think is that the older riders ride (in the main) the clubmen sections where the risk of a larger scale acciddent is less. And yes I am aware that 1) some younger riders are OK with non stop and 2) some very very good over 40's riders ride at an outstandingly high level The other points that I feel are being missed are that if you have the choice how you ride it does not mean that the rider that can stop and hop will win a club / national / BTC or WTC event. I can stop and hop with relative ease but I dont often win a trial and am often beaten by some of the afore mentioned brilliant over 40's riders, many of whom ride non stop (but can trick ride). The other thing is that the course organiser / clerk of the course does not have to lay a 'stop permitted' trial out in the way where you have to stop to get through every section. I ride in trials where you are allowed to stop but this does not mean I stop, balance, hop and mess about in each section. If a section can be ridden without stopping the majority of riders will ride it that way. However as I mentioned before if halfway through a section a rider stops, looks where he/she is going then set off again why is that a 5?? Have they gained a huge advantage by briefly stopping to see where they go? NO As it stands everyone should be relatively happy that they can choose how they ride a section. If a turn is put in a section whereby it is easier to stop, hop then go and people do this and get a zero then whats the problem? I'm pretty sure a good non stop rider can ride this in their chosen method. Worst case you have a dab, bring the bike around and carry on - so 1 point lost, not 5 points With the stop rules in place no one starts giving a 5 to the riders that ride no stop through a section where 90% stop, hop and go so why punish riders that ride the way they want to?. Seems mental to me and obviously divides everyone's opinion. Cant see how risking losing riders that already ride and enjoy trials is good for anyone involved in the sport. Like Dabster said, introducing no stop is not suddenly going to make thousands of people say 'ohh goofy gum drops, you can stop in trials now, I might take it up'

Pretty much spot on there with your comment Dabster, so why do they insist on keeping changing things?? Now you could get the younger rider telling his/her mates 'yea it was great but they keep p*ssing about with the rules' but hey, at least the over 40's crowd can tell their mates 'yea, it's just like it was in the 60's' what an advert eh? technology and bikes are so superior and advanced but the rules are much the sames as they were 50 years ago. To attract new riders you need to promote the sport, to promote you need to invest money and the ACU wont invest. You know how daft it is when great up and coming riders like Alexz Wigg were getting about

So what are the proposed changes? Is it : stop = 1 or stop = 5 Quite like the idea of the stop in front of an obstacle but then is that no stop trials?? NO and how many riders will say 'Oh come on mate I only stopped in front of the obstacle' I'm fully in favour of only getting one attempt at a section rather than get it wrong, hop back try again etc etc but HOW can failing someone and potentially ruining a riders trial for stopping for a second be a good thing?? As The Addict says 'many lads will pack in' lads being the key word here, the kids that have grown up hopping and know no different wont want to change and will up sticks and do something else - again HOW can that be a good thing? You may keep the older rider happy with no stop, but you will isolate a lot of experts and youth riders - again HOW can that be a good thing? Sure the top riders will adapt like The Addict says but what happens when these top riders retire / stop trials? and the great youth potential that was in trials has disappeared to Enduro or Cyclo trials?

Hang on! Is this the no stop rules that most clubs used a few years ago - stop and balance = 1 point Or is this the no stop rules I have only ever experienced in North Yorkshire (worst example was in the Wainwright trial) - stop and balance (no matter how brief) = 5 points and a fail Sorry, but if it is the latter that will make club trials a joke and a world trial daft and potentially even more dangerous (see my previous post) I just about stuck with trials a few years ago and could live with losing 1 point for stopping but if it is a 5 for stopping then the FIM or ACU are once again turning the sport we love into a farce.... Is there any official classification on what rules the FIM want to run WTC at and ACU want to run trials at? The other negative impact no stop had a few years back was the 'dynamic stop' which was allowed ie: rider was flicking the back round, you have the moment where the back wheel lands and settles where you are 'stationary' before setting off again. Now if you are an observer you will have to decide which is a dynamic stop and which is a stop. This will - 1: P*ss riders off no end 2: Potentially cause even longer queues as a riders 'talk' with the observer 3: Put people off observing : who wants to give up their Sunday to have riders moaning at you because you judged them to have stopped for a fraction of a second and gave them a 1 (or mayber a 5!!!!) Think the risk here is losing all the young talent that is up and coming to another sport. I know lots of people who will not bother riding if they get a 5 for stopping.

Great comment... It wont increase riders and it could even go the other way and make some young riders who were toying with maybe riding WTC to back away from it. ie: a section that they think they might manage for zero if allowed to stop could easily turn into a 3 as they stop a few times to compose themself or a 5 if they attempt it no stop and have a big off. The best WTC Riders will still stop when they need to and sadly get penalised and take a point for the stop. These guys are the best of the best, know their limits which means that they would have to lose 1 point rather than risk a 5. Sadly those that are not the elite (outside top 6 or 7) may be tempted to have a go without stopping which could have catastrophic results and someone getting badly hurt. For my money this is pointless and stupid at the top level of the sport and even more pointless and stupid at club level. Now the best rider in a club trial may not win the trial. This is like saying the FA saying 'Birmingham have won the premier league even though they only finished in 12th place but they let in the least goals during the season' Trials at risk of turning into the next F1 - too many rule changes, no one knows why and people look elsewhere.... This is making me consider more mountain biking already. I like 'stop' rules (am 34 and can trick ride a bit) for the simple fact that I can compose myself and see what I am doing. Surely if you are doing trials you can balance! so what difference at club level does non stop offer?

Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr ignore me, being a dumb@ss, just seen it on the other forum!

Hi Does anyone know if the UK Supertrial is this week at Didcot?? Heard it was but not seen anything.... Cheers