alan bechard

Where are you at in Germany Lee?

I am betting (from your description) that you are working on an 01 or 02 and they had greased front forks, not oil filled, which would explain why there were no seals etc. The instructions were for the 03 and later models which had the oil filled ones. Never was able to get any info on how much grease was supposed to go in the earlier ones. I will say that we could replace the middle east if we just had a couple of those things, they just keep pumping that grease out of a bottomless pit it seems. Anyway, there was no valving or anything in those if memory serves me to make it work like an oil filled shock. I think you may experience some problems on the next couple of outings. On those, I just disassembled, cleaned well, and liberally greased everything. Then I installed neoprene fork boots over the sliders so I did not get greasy every time I handled that thing. I never did sit down and write the instructions for those.

Dern ferigners can't handle good likker...... But the Cactus juice seemed to go down pretty smooth!

What year bike is it? That sounds scary...

10 stone,,,,,, good greif, if my convert program is working that is about 140 lbs, and that puts me at uhhhh,,,,, somewhere between 18 and 19 stones........ I rode the Advanced class (2 from the top) here on my daughters 125 Sherco with no problems. I would say go for it. If you do it for a while, it will help your technique and be just fine. If you find you don't like it, you should always be able to turn it back around without a major loss as long as you buy used. No idea what the kits or anything are, but I would say that taking the time, and setting up the bike well and accurately is important for any bike. Jetting on for your fuel and your area, and everything (suspension) set up for your weight and what not and I think you would have a blast. Have thought about riding one myself (quit laughing Andy) as a regular thing if Dean or Christina progresses in riding. Of course mine would have the "RED" spring on it.

Front Fork servicing 03. This task requires a 14 MM Allen Wrench to get the plastic plugs out of the top of the forks. It also requires 140ml of the appropriate wt. Oil for each fork leg. I used 2.5 wt. In stock form, the front forks protrude over the top of the triple clamp .2

I will find it tommorrow when I get to work and post it here. I used 5wt. Sorry, I just read what I used back when I did it and it was 2.5 wt. (sorry)

So, the short version You guys think it should go 0-5 with the 0 line being the most skilled, and the 5 line being the entry level rider, just past riding down the trail. Let the individual club sort thier own names out, but ask them to add the appropriate class / line # beside what they decide to call it for conformity.

Too cool. So I have a movie of you guys in your "prime"? Unfortunately I identify a bit too much with Bubba......

Man, I bet that one took some head scratching and some "what the heck is going on here" time spent over a bike laying on it's side to figure out what happened.

Well, I did not buy the 1.25 for Hanna she did. We got into that thing where she went, Well Honey, what should I do? Which I have learned is womens code for, why don't you make this decision so if I am unhappy with it later, I can blame you........ Being all Suave and debonaire, I said, whatever you would like baby,,,,,,,, And started loading a bike. But, yeah, she bought it. Just have to see how the follow through goes, but yesterday was spent with the calendar and the Trials schedules for the TI and STRA clubs figuring out where we would go so that was an encouraging sign.

I need to join in here and say what a great event I thought it was as well. Some things did not go the way I would have liked for them too, but that is life at some point. The people there were great, wonderful company in the morning noon and night! It was good to meet so many familiar folks, while at the same time there were several new faces in the group as well. The events were neat, I must say a highlight of for me was my wife Hanna saying, "well, I would ride if I just had a bike" Team RYP / Sherco USA took about 1 second to fill that void with a no problem, we got you covered, then it was "well, but I do not have any boots" Should have seen the look in her eyes when I said, well, I just worked a deal to buy 10 pairs of used boots! I am sure one pair will fit! Then it was, ok, but I would have to have one of those spiffy number plates, once again Brad of Team Sherco came to the rescue, promptly just asking what line she wanted on her plate! Then we got too, "but it does not have my name on it like the kids" (yep, she was grasping at straws by this point!) well, Christina ran over to Brian and he promptly fired up the laser and made her a super cool name plate to go on her custom number plate! At some point she new that she had been beat Although it was a little bit of a letdown, all she could find for a minder / coach / trainer was some 6 time national champion who took the time to walk with her through all the sections It really was cool to see her and Adrianna out there riding, and on the Tuesday after Mrs. Altman spent some time with Christina out learning to ride, so watch out, there may be a bigger "hot Mamma" class out there next year. Hopefully it will follow through as there is an almost new Sherco 125 in the trailer now, only ridden three times by a lady Novice rider Will just have to see how it all comes together. I owe a big thanks to Team RYP / Sherco USA, The TTC crew, and especially all the folks that came out and checked and pitched in to make the event a success! I also need to send a very special thanks to Brian, Ms. Catherine, Charlie R, Charlie P and Brad for looking out for my Young uns when work carried Hanna and I back home. It is seldom that you find freinds as great as these. For those of you sitting on the fence about if you should come or not, Lane made a great post in the other thread about the YN that is worth reading and thinking about (did I just say that) It is what you make of it, and can be a wonderful time for your family to share and make some great memories. And at the end of the day, what is more important?

The rubber piece comes without that hole drilled in it at all. I am referring to the rear bolt on the rubber piece, which is actually the front bolt of the black plastic piece that wraps around the chain and goes above the chain as well. If you use the stock bolt, 5 X 10 it is only long enough to go through the rubber, and just into the plastic piece underneath and does not protrude enough to start into the swingarm. If you use a longer bolt and just mash it down, then it deforms the crud out of the rubber piece. All the ones I have had, have had the head of that bolt worn off by the chain rubbing on them, so Maybe your's are running at a different angle then mine? (All of them I have did the same) I am thinking of slitting it from the side, and inserting a steel strip to reinforce that area.

Probably right, sitting here thinking and I was there in 85,,,,,, been a little bit. Most folks tended to keep their distance from the group I ran around with there. The diving is great though. Rated by Jaques Cousteau (sp) as the second best dive spot in the world at one point.

Well, not home yet, but installed a bleeder repair fitting. $5 from O'rielly Auto parts and the 1/8" pipe fitting had enough room. Wall thickness may not make aviation standards but should be fine. Think I will switch Dean's bike over to the 03 swingarm and use that caliper so that will give us all the same brake sets. Looks like it will work just fine, do not see any clearance issues yet, and felt like it pulled down nice.

Makes it easier when re-installing the rear wheel, gives a positive attachment of the brake caliper to the swingarm without the axle there, yet does not hinder it from sliding back and forth. Well, I just read Df's answer, and yes, I said the same thing.

Mind how you go is about right from my point of view as well Andy. However, I must say, for shear FEAR factor, or adreneline rush, Cairo Cab ride has to be right up near the top. I have heard Korea is better but have not tested the comparison. Midnight bus to Sharm El Sheik (Sinai) for some excellent Scuba time

Got the Cactus juice by the Way Mark, A big thanks! Although all the Texas crowd now look at me like a man possessed,,,, I kept asking who from Texas was BR Everyone kept thinking and thinking, then Friday or Saturday, Brian shows up, and says I got something for you from Mark I owe you one somewhere along the way. Now I need to fix this caliper so I can put it on Dean's new bike with the new style swingarm! Going to try a bleeder repair kit first, then if it comes to it, weld it shut and use the clutch banjo bolt as steve suggested.

E-mail me and I will link you up with some folks to give you a hand looking at bikes etc if you would like, there are several in your area. trialsalan at bellsouth.net

Yep, my computer jacked up. I will ask who is around LA. Yes, couple hundred in parts if it is all bad, probably less, bearings and gaskets are not that much, and that is what I would expect. Big end on the rod and pressing it on and off if you cannot do it yourself will add up. Not really much way to say from here until you are looking at the parts though.

Worst case scenario is that the bottom end of the bike is trashed, bearings are trashed, and there are metal chunks from the clutch / gears / etc floating around in the bottom end. Worst case is that you are not very mechanicly adept, or choose not to work on your own shop, and you take it too a high dollar bike shop and start paying $120 an hour for a mechanic not familiar with it to work on it. You end up paying more then the bike is worth. Most likely scenario, A. It has some worn parts, that require some attention. B. You are reasonably mechanicly adept, or have a freind that is and will work with you. You spend some time pulling it apart, sorting out what you need and putting it back together. Some parts are certainly expensive in there, but the odds are it would be a reasonable cost part to change. As to what they normally sound like, there is always some mechanical noise there, just as with the OSSA you mentioned earlier. The 125's and 200's tended to produce a bit more clutch noise then the full size bikes. But there should be no banging, clunking, grinding sounds coming out. Depending on the seller, and what he is willing to let you do, I would suggest doing a full service on the bike before making your decision, you can tell a lot about the bike by changing the oil, cleaning the air filter, pulling the wheels, looking at the wheel bearings, get underneath and get up close and personal with the suspension linkage. Where exactly are "these Parts", maybe we know someone close that can lend you a hand. I will probably speak to half a dozen California based trials riders in the morning. (Youth Nationals are on) and they cover a pretty wide range of area over there. Hope that helps, but it really boils down to your eyes on it, and your estimation of it's condition and your ability to repair it or have it done.

Has anyone come up with a slick / clean way to drill and counterbore the rear hole in the swingarm protector rubber piece? (chain gaurd thing) I always get it done, but everytime I do it, I feel there has to be a better way.

Wholeheartedly agree with getting someone familiar with those bikes to give it a look over and a test ride. Almost impossible here to diagnose things like engine noise etc. Hard enough when you are standing over the bike with it running. I would look at Mains certainly, it is fairly quick and easy to pull the flywheel cover (3ea 5mm hex bolts) shift down and hold the shifter down all the way as it drops into a lower gear and you can pull the flywheel cover off. Grab the flywheel and wiggle. Not the scientific set up the dial indicator etc test, but for buying a used bike, should let you know, and if you suspect the noise is there can confirm they are loose. Not that big a deal to change if needed. Lots of Sherco support from RYP, and here as well. www.rypusa.com has links to the manuals etc so it is easy to look at pictures, also easy to reach Ryan and get answers from the man that has probably seen everything that comes up on the Sherco's. Good luck and hope it works out well for you.

That one on the left there must be written for me Ishy,,, Class 12 go here! That is somewhere just below a 2 year old on a Tricycle right!

We got discussing this yesterday, and Charlie brought up an interesting approach he had seen at a world round a year or two ago. The section cheif saw a guy building a kicker, and made him take it back out, put the rocks back, restore to original condition. Then Slowly turned to each of his observers and made sure they were ready, Very slowly,,,,,, And each observer took his time responding, that he was ready, as everyone had to check to make sure nothing had been constructed. The picture I have in my mind was that this was done in a very exagerated manner to make it clear to the riders that they were going to be thorough if this occured. The riders and minders then started apparently hollering about time, and an interesting thought was pointed out to me. The rider / minder has a time limit, not the observers. So when they were good and ready, the cheif observer let the next guy in. Then another minder / rider went into the section and was getting ready to move something, and all the other riders / minders made it very clear that they better not touch anything in there as it would delay an already short time limit. In effect it made the minders and riders police themselves. Not sure that I will have the gumption to do that, but it makes for some interesting thought.