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I am not positive, but I believe someone on here said they had fitted a Kehin on the 125?
I have considered doing it to Christina's as well, but she said she was happy with it where it was.
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That thing should zing those guys around no problem whatsoever.
Hope it sorts out for you or hopefully your local dealer can lend a hand.
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Sorry it has taken so long to post this.
Here is the one in the shop at the moment.
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Definetely should not pop or bang WFO. Those are some screaming little engines, look at what the MX guys turn them through.
As I was playing with ours, we looked at going to the Dominator clutch, and they were asking if I wanted the 5500 or the 6000 engagement point.
Plug, Fuel, Petcock, carb, airfilter, electrics.
That thing in top gear should be fast enough to be scary.
How old / what size (weight) are your kids?
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Cannot comment on yours, as I am not there to see it run, but can make some general comments.
I have run several of the Sherco 50's and never found them lacking for power. When I originally got one for my son, part of the package was that we would upgrade it to the 70cc kit (which is available for the Polini engine) and after seriously riding it found that it was not needed.
As I tell most folks while trying to diagnose problems on the board,
Start with basics, good fuel? new plug, clean air filter, fresh oil, brakes working correctly, clean carb etc. etc.
I would add, which gear is he riding in?
One other thing, reading your post, try running it on reserve, if that makes a difference modify the fuel petcock per the instructions at www.rypusa.com
Hopefully, you bought from and have a good working relationship with a local dealer. Has he taken a look at it?
It is always helpful to have another similar model bike to compare it against.
In our experience with the Sherco 50, power was never an issue.
Have you had the boys switch bikes?
Can you specify a bit more as to why you are saying it does not have enough power?
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Cool,,,
Did you weld a shelf in there to bolt it too?
Do you seal it with RTV or such and does it not blow out?
Looks like a good deal.
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Sorry, I did not get pictures last night, maybe tonight.
Spent my evening laying underneath a stump grinder trying to figure out how to adjust pillow blocks....... and a fun time was had by all!
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I cut the original weld.
I will get Hanna to let me touch her camera tonight,,, Well, maybe I can talk her into taking the picture for me!
Price off the top of my head without looking, couple of hundred bucks.
Shop rate for TIG time, about $60 Pr. Hour.
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Hmmmm,,, Will talk with Ryan about making it a bit easier to find. Kind of a long route to get there, and it kind of throws me that it is under
"documentation"
http://www.shercousa.com/pdfs/rim_band_rep...ment_manual.pdf
There is a tremendous wealth of knowledge there at our fingertips provided by Sherco USA / RYP
You may pass on a note to Ryan / Wayne if you find that section helpful.
I know I look at it all the time.
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I have done a couple of them as well, I have one in the middle stages in the garage at the moment as well I think.
What do you want to see a picture of?
Doug and I were kind of laughing about it when we did it, it just does not make economic sense, unless you happen to have a 5K$ chunk of machine sitting in the back corner of your shop that needs to be ran some, buy a new one.
I need the stick time, I loose what little touch I have when it goes too long without doing the TIG work, and believe me, there is a healthy dose of TIG time in putting one of those things together.
I use and reccomend the Moose packing,,, I have to go find the bag now, but it is loose threads instead of a woven matt. It makes it far easier to pack under the central tube. Well the wife cleaned up that part of the shop, that packing is never to be seen again! I think it is called silent sport??? Could be way off.
We have used stainless steel scrubbies as well as regular steel wool to repack the metal part with. Not sure which if either is better. The ones that I have done, have been so burned out that there was not much thought of re-using the metal wool stuff.
I did look, I have one apart in the shop, so can grab pictures if needed.
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Reading it over I did not really spell out what I was trying to say, and Yup, as Kevin says, it can give you fits when it tries to half seal up the shraeder valve. Aggravating as all get out in the middle of a trials.
Let me go back,
Clean everything spotlessly clean.
Very carefully inspect the rim band,, if there is the slightest hitch in your mind, change the darn thing, you will think about it too much.
Follow the instructions on the RYP site, the two people when inserting the valve stem is good (if not great) advice. Take your time, lube the little spacer thingy with a touch of slime, make certain you have it all pulled into place prior to putting it into the rim, otherwise you can cut through the strip with the little spacer piece.
I get to the step where the valve stem is in and in place, then lube up the two edges of the rim where the strip sits, kind of like running a silicone bead along there with "slime", then slip the rim strip around the wheel.
Then I usually start cussing and making my fingers hurt. Seating the strip is one of those tasks that I just do not do my best at. Time consuming and aggravating is my version of it. Squish the strip back and forth, work it into the groove with a little plastic tool and your fingers, it just takes a while. As you get to the end, the excess slime will be squishing out the sides of the rim band, keep squishing it out so the rim band sits down well and is well (100%) seated.
Then wipe down the rim again and thouroughly inspect everything.
When I am done, hopefully there is no slime in the "tire" area, it is just between the inside of the rim strip and the outside.
It is somewhat gratifying to see the little bit of green slime come out around the nipples etc. as you air it up.
However you go about it, I wish you the best of luck.
Probably the second most frustrating thing to fool with beside rear brakes.
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Friends D?????
Sorry, could not resist
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www.rypusa.com
Look for the instructions for installing the simple harness.
Got to go ride now, will find it tonight if you do not...
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I use "slime" tire sealant as a lubricant to install the rim strip.
Doug came up with this and it seems to work very well for several of us.
And as HondaRS suggested, spotlessly clean is also important.
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Hey JT, where is the cool looking Gas Cap from, I do not think I have ever seen that one.
Someone was making an aftermarket top billet Triple Tree for the 99's. I put one on my old Techno that I had bought used (the triple). I will try and get a look at it this weekend and see who machined it, if there are any marks.
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Charlie, do you have Ron Fornier (sp) book on metalworking?
Best hands on one I have ever seen.
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I had a Dillon, which became Henrob, which is now Cobra apparently, and it is kind of like a shopsmith. When you watch the guy Demo it, they are the neatest thing since sliced bread.
But when you sit down and try and use it, it is just a bit different. I could never get the feel of it.
The most impressive part of the demo was the guy trimming his fingernails with the cutting torch.
(Also had the Shopsmith by the way)
While I am not the best welder out there by any means, I am around some very fine welders, to include the EAA / NASCAR Lincoln welding instructors. It really depends on your definition of foil.
Common usage, If you can weld two soda cans together in the middle, you are about as good as you are going to get. Not a factor of the machine at some point, more a factor of hand control.
FWIW, my welders are a Millermatic 250 MIG with Spoolgun, A Millermatic 130 Mig, A Miller Trailblazer engine driven unit, A lincoln Square Wave 255 with watercooler TIG, various and assorted Victor and other torch equipment. My wife just wishes that it all paid for itself, but it is some darn handy stuff to have in the shop!
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I will throw my 2 cents in here.
Do not worry about buying the welder at this point.
Kind of like saying I like Motorcycles, lets go buy one and you do not know if you want to MX, Roadrace or ride trials.
The Vo-tech type approach is almost always the best, but I have no idea if that type of schooling is available too you or in your area.
If you hunt and ask everyone you know, I bet you can find someone that welds and has equipment that would gladly trade out you doing some grub work for a bit of education time.
Right now my next door neighbor comes over and helps me with work in the shop for an hour, and I then work with him for an hour on welding skills.
While I was in Germany, I would do grunt work for the local blacksmith (cutting a gazillion 1/2" metal ballusters by hand comes to mind) in trade for Forge time and an experienced hand looking over me while I tried to learn a bit of the art. Some of the best learning time I had.
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Well we flip flopped like a bream on the deck, but ended up back to what I said here. Christina in Sportsman and Dean in Novice.
Dean did well, rode with Jessie all day (thanks Jessie) and it looks like a real dogfight is shaping up in the Novice class with a bunch of the kids at real similar skill levels (and scores) I think this is exciting as that is the formulae in my opinion to push all the kids ability levels up quick.
While discussing Christina riding up with Charlie, our STRA sporting steward, TTC master trainer, and generally great guy, he made an offer that Christina could ride with him.
I have absolute confidence in his judgement and ability, and Christina was definetely not in to riding with "dad" so this was an excellent opportunity for us.
I stayed to the back, and watched and learned as we went along.
Section 1, first loop, she got tangled with a rock wall (same line as the I would have done) and got stuck in the bike. (side bar, I have not figured out yet how my daughter has an uncanny ability to wedge body parts into areas of the bike that were not meant to have body parts there.) Took 3 of us to get her foot from between the forks and the exhaust and the bike off from here. Talk about a dad sitting there wondering if he made the right decision.........
Things went along, and she struggled quite a bit, but at the same time, she was in control. There were two times in the day where things got a bit wild, same section, same rock. Once she launched the bike off the top of the rock, a little more than she expected, the next time she came up short and Charlie and I had to catch.
She dropped 106 points in 33 attempts.
She was beat but really happy at the end. The quote of the day had to be when she called and was telling my mother about it.
"I did really good, I took last place!"
It would not have come out nearly so well had she not had all the support that we are so fortunate to recieve in the STRA.
I cannot say enough about Charlie taking the time and working with her throughout the day.
The others throughout the day offering encouragement and praise as she pushed through a section or worked on something difficult. The comments, of you go girl, etc. etc. really kept her going when she was wondering about it.
I have to thank Jessie especially for taking care of Dean for me so that I could concentrate my efforts on being close (but hopefully not in the way) so that if something went wrong I was there or if another spotter was needed etc.
I know Christina tried things that she would never have tried in practice no matter how much we coaxed her.
All in All, the best thing I can say about the entire weekend is it was
BRILLIANT!
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Neither STRA nor TI has mandatory move up policies.
Christina is finishing 3rd Int for the STRA 04 series.
Dean is finishing 1st Nov for the STRA 04 series.
After reading the comments and thoughts here, and listening to the advice of many folks that I trust greatly,
I am going to let Christina try Sportsman on Sunday. Christina and I have agreed to speak with Charlie the STRA safety steward and use his evaluation if there is danger involved.
She has to be close to me one loop and I am maintaining Veto power over section attempts I feel are dangerous. I will probably go out ahead of her and scan them myself, but feel confident that the STRA family will watch out for her and her own good sense will prevent anything untoward from happening.
Dean is going to ride this round in Novice again. I agreed to evaluate his result and review the situation after this event. He could probably move up, but I want to be with him when he does, so it will just wait.
We might go out and try the Intermediate sections together after the event.
There are plenty more events in the year.
Thanks for everyone's insights and experiences.
Will post how the decisions came out on Monday.
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Soooo, I have two kids that both want to move up a class.
What do others use as a criterion to let them move up?
I am kind of happy with the "when you have single digit event scores" then you move up.
Any thoughts or ideas that others have used?
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I am in Clarksville, TN about one hour north of Nashville, right on the TN / KY line.
My Wifes webpage is www.awomanstouch.net and is set up and operated by my brother in law there in Germany.
Were you riding in the late 80's?
I made the cover of Trialsport magazine once, unfortunately it was the back cover!
My home riding area was around Illesheim, and I was a member of MSC Aishgrund (sp) in the Neustadt on der aish area.
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Mannn,,,
Grosshuebach is definetely a nice riding area.
Elmar, I need to hook up my brother in law with you. He lives in Ergersheim, near Bad Windsheim. Just picked up a 98 Beta.
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It is just steel. 1/8" stock, about 3mm.
Bandsaw, grinder, small dab of cussing.
This was the prototype, the finished ones have nicer lines.
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I started thinking I would take either the KTM or the POLINI one and modify it. But at some point I was going, cut here, weld here, bend here, move this and it still looked cobbled. I just said crud, this is what I want it too fit and look like and started from a blank piece.
Here are the pieces laid out.
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