alan bechard

Here is the frame without the brake installed.

There is a little tab that it bolts too on the frame. I double and cap it and use a shouldered bolt as a pivot. You have to drill one 3/8" (10mm I think) hole in the frame for the assembly to mount. On Dean's I would also modify the rear brake backing plate to accept both cables.

www.trialstrainingcenter.com They do wonderful packages and can provide everything needed from bikes, to food and lodging to riding gear. The terrain and the teachers are fantastic.

Upon review, Yes Andy, those Marigold guys are still hunting for me!!!! The pictured one is the prototype. The finished ones now are slightly different and have a better fit and finish. they also do not use the top screw shown in the picture. Here is one of my favorite pictures of Dean on his 50. This section was used last year as an Advanced line at a trials. He was 6 or 7 in this picture. This is also posted for the folks that say these small bikes are only "field" bikes. They can do some really neat things on these little things.

Yes, I have done it. On my sons (Dean's) I ran both a hand and foot brake connected to the rear. I felt it was important with the centrifugal clutch to have access to both. However, several folks are running the rear brake pedals I made without the hand lever. I am actually about to do a batch of these up. I owe one to our Youth Director, and have been asked by a person or two about making one up for them, so I probably will in the next week or two. (for those that know me, that is a somewhat vauge unit of measure.) I am also not proud, if you wanted to copy one of mine, I can send more pictures etc. The next generation probably should have a folding pedal, but at some point, the fixed pedal works ok. I think I have seen 3 of them folded around. There are about 10 of these I believe out in circulation at this point. I will be selling the next batch at $75 each, or some form of trade for you UK guys if interested. The production ones will be powder coated your choice of color. I will also make available some of the other odds and ends that I have or make if folks are interested. Hmmmmm, Andy, I am starting to sound like an advertisement here. Do I owe you something or should I place this somewhere else? Anyway, contact me if interested, or if I can help answer any Sherco 50 questions or Ryan is readilly available on his site. www.rypusa.com/forums Hope your child enjoys his (or her) machine as much as mine did his.

LMFAO,,,,,, knew it was coming and still was funny.

I do not know if it is bad form or not, but over on Ryan's Forum, they have been speaking a bunch about carbs and set up etc. Wayne and Ryan are both there have set up a bunch of them. http://www.rypusa.com/forum/index.cfm?page=forum&forumID=2 Worth a read I would think. I want to run one across the Dyno, then put the Kehin on and do it again.

Hello Folks, We have spoken of this in the past, and I am bringing it up again. I would like to see a short, 5 to 10 minute movie, made to introduce people to Trials. It would need to be kept short to hold the folks attention, for the people that had more interest, then they could look at other already produced movies to learn more. The idea here is to just be a "Spark" hopefully to light a fire in a new rider. One of the problems that many of us have encountered as we lent out movies of Trials is that many people who are not riders, who watch the video's come away saying something along the lines of wow, that is impressive! I could never do that, or let my kids do something like that. The concept would be something like 30 seconds lead of the top level stuff, then an introduction to the bikes, a brief explanation of the rules, a short run down of various classes and levels then scenes, shots from Youth trials on up through the classes progressing to national level or possibly world level competition. The camping, family, positive social atmosphere would be highlighted. The end would then have some means of getting into contact with the local riders in the persons area. I would expect that Trials enthusiasts would take this movie and lend it out to people that were considering riding. We could bring it too shops that sold bikes and ask them to include it on their "loop" play systems showing movies so that folks already interested in motorcycles caught a glimpse of Trials. We could hand it too the news media as a quick intro into what we were doing, or they could use portions of it in their brodcast. It could be used when working with social groups such as Boy Scouts or Rotary when asking them to assist in the scoring of our events. I think there would be many applications for this item. Now comes the hard part, I found a Trials enthusiast who is also a film maker, who has the time and interest to do it. He has the capabilities, experience and knowledge to make it come about. My part needs to be the providing of capital to finance this idea. The goal I am shooting for is $1500 to cover the production and inital burning of DVD's There are several avenues that I will investigate into getting this money. We could sell advertising on it, we could ask importers, manufacturers and dealers to contribute to the project, we could look for outside sources of funding or we could look to ourselves, the trials riding community. I think it would benefit a production of this type to have it with the only advertising in it being the advertisement for Trials itself. I would like to think that I could pre-sell, the idea of this video to 100 people willing to take a risk and put $15 on the line in the belief that this idea would be beneficial to the trials community as a whole. There is a certain risk in this in that I would not want the disc copywrighted or protected and it would be given out with the idea that it would be duplicated and passed around. If someone was of the mind, they could sit on the sideline until this project comes to fruition, then make copies and be at the same spot, but I believe that the Trials community as a whole is not like that. So,,,, take a minute and let me know what you think, Thoughts of what should be in the movie, or if you would be willing to support it by pre-paying for 1 to 94 DVD's (I have commitments for 6 so far) My contact information is included if you would rather not post on a BB. Thanks

Well, my book says 150 cc of oil. And for the spec it say's IP dual grade 20W/30. Looking at the book, I seem to remember not believing it too be correct..... What they point out as the drain plug, I believe is the high level plug and I seem to remember a drain plug (screw) on the bottom of the case????? I could very easily be getting confused, it has been at least one day since I looked at one of them. But remembering my best,,,, There was a lower oil drain screw in the right side cover and an upper level fill too screw. I drained and refilled a couple of times to get the proper measurement, then did that each time. Later, while working with the MX Polini guys, they brought up using a squeeze bottle with the marking for the correct amount on it. It does make it exceptionally easier. The MX guys change their oil each race, so they are very fast and expeditious at it. Brian is making up some marked bottles for me to use on the Sherco's. I have one with the 300 and the 450 marked that makes my oil changes quick. I bet if you purused the KTM 50 racing sites, you could get a lot more detail on that motor and reccomended maintenance procedures. If I get by Joey's house, I will look at one of his and see if it jogs my memory and if he has the KTM book. (same motor in many of the KTM 50's)

I always used Maxxima MTL 75wt. Changed it often and never had any clutch problems between that and my baby Sherco's. I believe any high quality motorcycle 2 stroke bottom end oil would be appropriate. I would have to get my manual from the house for the baby Beta, will try and do that tonight.

Great point and example Dan. My goal this year is the Camelot series, and asking clubs to slowly migrate to 6 common class names. I think that graph is a great example to use.

I have just been watching and listening, trying to glean the knowledge from others insights and experiences. Trying to re-direct a bit and get back to the core of this thread. An interesting point came up this weekend while I was at the Trials Incorporated year end meeting. That I think is fairly central to the base of this thread, TRIALS GROWTH. This may come across as fairly corny, and for those of us that deal with it regularly, please do not shut down just because of the wording, What would the "Mission Statement" of your trials club or group be? I know many are saying, well, obviously, to hold Trials, but think it through a bit more, and try and word out exactly what your group is trying to do. Then, and no offence to our bretheren across the water, but I think we are in very different areas and experince very different problems of logistics, availability, past experiences and riding areas, this is really directed at the US folks. So what is the Mission statement for the NATC? Can your Rep word it out? Do you know who your rep is? Do you know who the president of NATC is currently? Do you know what the NATC goals are and how they plan on getting there? Is the NATC our National LEADERSHIP? More thoughts later, but would be interested in seeing others thoughts. And yes Wayne, this ties exactly with what you were saying. Point driven home to me at the meeting Saturday. So, anyway, not a slam nor slight to anyone, but I would be interested to hear what the NATC reps have to say are the answers to those questions, I know several of them read this board. And yes, I know the NATC rep from both the clubs I am a member of, spoke to one about this last weekend, and will speak to the other this weekend. But I could not tell you who the Prez is at the moment, something I will have to ask.

Yep, next weekend, Owls Hollow, Tom Deal's house, big dinner Saturday night.

Tom has shown up a couple of times at the Gadsden event that is coming up 13 and 14 Nov. You might come on out, hang out and even if he does not show, it is always a good time. Look me up if you get a chance, I will be the one trying to drag the kid off the Monty onto a Sherco.

Yes, Ryan www.rypusa.com has an excellent brass drift that is precision machined to do the job. Makes it quick, easy and effortless. There are other means out there, and I have several, both less and more expensive, but I do not believe you will find anything as quick, easy and precise as the set of drivers from RYP.

He was paying you a compliment Scottie. Not sure if you took it wrong, or maybe I am reading your post wrong. I think he was just making a point about how tough it and the people that ride it, are.

I do not know if it is really the same as what you are saying, but I believe it is. When I set sections, I always here my dad talking too me, "give them plenty of choices, none of them good" I also hold to the thought that the fewer markers making the obstacle / section, the better it is. An end gate and a start gate is just about right to my mind. I usually try and have at least two, often three lines through any particular tough spot in sections I set. One is my way, Drop off, ledge, rolly rocks, high excitement but straight. One is Doug's, wiggle, giggle and work around it. I like it when the guy tries two or three lines through a section and is not sure which one to try on the last loop.

Thanks Mark, hey, that sounds like me on occasion! I doubt I will on my bike Wayne, unless something comes up, but I like to have the information, and you never know, I may pick one up to have in the trailer next time I am at an FBO. Always something to learn along the way.

Hey Mark! Post the part #, Source of supply or manufacturer, or all would be helpful so I can find that hose without a bunch of hunting please. Thanks,

Sounds to me like you left off the magic words before hitting it wide open in fourth gear..... Hey Yall, Watch this!!! Or, as was explained to me Saturday night if it is late in the afternoon,,, Here, hold my beer and watch this! Then, even had you not made it across it would still be a great campfire story.

A ketchup type bottle with a pointed tip, and marked with a line at the 450cc mark, makes the oil changes on the bikes go really fast. It takes some hunting to find the right one, and we might go ahead and produce a couple with the correct increments laser engraved on if there is any interest.

http://www.rypusa.com/sherco/manuals/Sherc...ation_Guide.pdf 450cc

Carb tuning, noises, etc. are best done IMO with someone knowledgable there with you explaining what they are looking at / listening too. Before you start changing and adjusting anything, I suggest that you cover all the "basics" first. Proper fuel. Clean Fuel carb. Proper fuel oil ratio and proper oil. Clean, well oiled air filter with no residual in the airbox. New proper plug. Make certain of your base settings as R2w gave you while you are in there, and something I saw and noticed a couple of weeks ago, write your jet sizes on the bowl with a sharpie while you are in there. From the sounds of it, and the allusion that you made, your exhaust may be somewhat stuffed as well, and the black wet plug would also be an indication. I have not looked at a GG pro exhaust closely (Ron, Help) but will try and look this weekend. As to a very generic statement, most Trials center exhaust sections are not readily servicable. They tend to build up a fair amount of oil and spooge and are not IMO practical to clean for the average mechanic. It will be difficult at best to tune a bike with a poor performing exhaust system. If possible swap with someone for a day with a known good one and see what, if any difference it makes. The manual should show you what factors and rpm ranges the various jets, needle, screws and such effect. Oh,, And it may sound silly, and please do not take it insultingly,, but are you positive that you are turning on / off the choke correctly? and that the choke is moving full range?

The opportunity to post the next picture Jay!

Sounds an awful lot like the Formula for a GG 80. As Les Mizell who has had a number of them said to me, starting it is about like squishing ants. Easy to start, light weight, large wheels and tires, well laid out, inexpensive, easy to repair and work on if needed and not intimidating. A very nice bike. Downsides would be small gas tank, little low on power compared to some of the others in that class, and everything is tightly packed under the tank. Motor is a little revvy for trials but quite effective if used properly. I like Sherco's myself, and would reccomend one highly if your son is comfortable riding one. Substantially more power than the GG 80/70 and they can be on it longer, but for my daughter it was more than she was comfortable on, so we spent a year on a GG 80 prior to moving up to the Sherco 125 when she was a better rider. The Beta 80 is a sharp looking bike as well that I have next to nill experience with. I have only seen them at the Youth Nationals. Maybe someone here can add in comments about them. If you get the urge to travel south to a STRA event we can probably put your son on a GG 80/70 a Sherco 80 midsize and a Sherco 125. I cannot stress enough how important that he be comfortable with it, thoughts of money and best value aside.