davetom

On another forum, Shergars owners are discussing ironmongery

New stanchions are quite a bit longer than Norton ones, alloy extensions are used where the old chrome fork seal holders would go. Alan probably couldn't hear over the noise of lathes, millers etc but I'd persist, he's 'the man'

Try Alan Whitton,(01246 419805)it's not a job for the amateur or for the semi-pro for that matter, quite easy to end up with shiny scrap metal on the floor next to the lathe. He did a great job on mine, and many others no doubt

Hadn't realised how similar his thread last Jan was to this.. http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/topic/49428-original-pre-65-class/ He was very ' sensitive' in that one too, don't think he ever rides somehow ?

Even Spud himself didn't believe what he was typing, he's deleted all his posts.. Maybe his bike fell on him and he's had a rethink?

You still don't say what suspension your bike has, just that it fits into the appropriate sub class.. Maybe because you wrote the sub class regs ? Why are others bikes modified in ways that tear the sport apart, but you having non standard forks / shocks is a "sensible decision"? Let's face it, if you haven't got steel rims, bars and levers, it's because you chose to. Most back in the day used the heavier stuff,its cheaper, tougher and easily available so you've consciously decided that' it's ok. I love to see the big bikes too, I agreed with the previous post as it made me laugh when this debate was getting po-faced, and I hoped it might prick your pomposity a little. Off to the garage, I may be a while..

Out of curiosity TT Spud, what forks and shocks are on your bike? Are your rims, bars and levers steel or alloy ?

TT Spud, Your 'fantasy pre-65' regs throw up as many issues as they solve? Last year I sold my dead stock Ariel HT ( ex Bob Eyers, I'm sure Deryk would have known him?), now if I was to turn up on that to one of your trials, I'd be immediately disadvantaged by its steel rims and bars, original poorly damped suspension, standard pegs etc. Now steel rims and bars are easily available, levers too so why choose the mods that suit you? Can you explain why electronic ignition offers enough advantage to get moved out the class, but having say TY fork internals and nice damping front and rear follows your pre-65 rules? Suspension is a lot easier to scruitineer than ignition too. What suspension do you have, out of curiosity? I'll guess a purist like yourself has original shocks with 50's spec (lack of) damping? Do you run standard ( to your bike) forks too? Replica frames are ruled out too as no replica frame is ever as heavy as the original. I'd rule out tubeless rims too, as compression punctures happen much easier on 300lb bikes than 200lb, so the tubeless folks will get away with much lower pressures. And please do away with the hissy fits and fake indignation, the guy from the Yorks club offered reasoned arguments based on his experience, and you reacted like a typical Internet keyboard revolutionary

So you got a bargain bike with no paperwork and the seller has gone quiet about giving you previous owners details ? Hope your research doesn't find its nicked..

Fair play to you Charlie, can't argue with that !

My HT that I sold last year still had steel bars, rims and sprung steel footrests, don't you find them a little heavy?

Yes 40 thou off the top. There's more meat there if you measure it but not sure what the max you could remove is?

"It's a different world, so making comparisons with 'the way that it was' is just not possible." So why keep on doing that then ? A sport involving a finite number of machines getting older and older each year is bound to naturally evolve over time, just because that evolution is not to your liking doesn't make it wrong.

I'm aware of the spacer, and the pushrod tunnel issue can be fixed by milling the barrel so it mirrors the C15, then using the standard pushrod tube. I'm just curious about the oil route. I'm thinking that milling a thin slot would do it, but happy to hear other options

I'm curious as to the answer of this also, have an old B25 barrel that could be in my C15..

Anyone know where I can get one of these? It's authentically pre 65 so Scotland shouldn't be a problem ...

Yawn ⬆️

Are there really scores of pre unit big bangers sat in their sheds waiting for a suitable trials series? Pre 65 in '72 was for bikes just a few years past their sell by date being ridden by blokes who'd grown up with those sort of bikes.( hence the growing popularity of twin shocks and air cooled monos now) Surely the fact that 40yrs later people are still interested in pre 65 shows that it's not all gloom and doom, most don't ride £10k bikes after all..? As for people entering the sport thinking they can buy their way to the top, surely that's the same for every type of mechanised sport or hobby. It's not a pageant of how it used to be in the 'good old days' , you can't buy an HT or comp Bullet for £500 and ride it to the event, and would you want to !

My C15 makes similar metallic noises after 5-10 mins. I put it down to the piston, I just carry on warming it up, or ride it and the noise disappears.

Are you trying to protect the engine from a dirty oil tank? Any debris or particles come out of the return first anyway, if you put the filter on the feed, the oil tank will be full of crap out of the engine. Surely you want the oil cleaned as soon as it leaves the sump ?

I used the one Dave Varley at D & C Classics sells, very compact and uses Enfield filters ( I bought a job lot off EBay). On the return line as the inlet is gravity and suction, but the return is pressurised

Great story of differing attitudes to customer service

To be fair, Bmca are quick with theirs.. Usually within a few hours of the trial.

Results now on Bmca website

Anyone had any results yet? It said in regs to enclose an SAE but I thought they might appear on the Bmca website