First off, you have the correct attitude of "I know how to ride a motorcycle in "insert motorcycle discipline here" but trials is a different animal and I will need to learn that"
It is really hard to swallow the pride that most of us motorcyclists have when changing disciplines. (I have only ridden trials, if I took up MX there would be SO much to learn) But once you get past that and start riding and learning, then much fun will be had.
OK my opinion on 2 stroke trials bike engine size, based on the need for low end torque for the sport.
125cc = no low end torque, rev the hell out of it to move 4 inches, MUST use proper technique to do anything.
200cc = moves better than a 125 still needs reved up and proper technique
250cc = starting to get some usable low end torque, need to rev up a bit but not too much, proper technique is helpful.
270cc = good amount of low end torque, decent rev range but if reved up a bit too much could get away from you
290cc = As far as I know Beta Evo was the only one to have an actual 290cc bike and only for a couple years, was supposed to be a middle ground between the 270 and the 300. (they ditched it in favor of a 300cc)
300cc = Shed loads of low end torque, revs up great and will rip your arms off if you are not prepared.
now of course proper technique is the key to a good days ride, but in some cases with the larger bore bikes a bit of throttle and more grunt will counteract some poor technique and still get you up the obstacle. I don't have experience with modern 4 stroke machines so can't give an opinion on those.
LOL, i really want to find that monty python clip about arguing, that would fit here. anyway mopwepa the topic got everyone talking and got rid if some boredom, lol. start another topic so we can have some more fun. how about which side of the bike is the proper side for a kick starter??????????????????
rob
Neither side is proper for the kickstarter. just need a button on the handlebars and vrooom.....
Montesa/Honda are pretty robust,you'll notice that a 2nd hand one will cost about twice as much as a similar aged gas gas/beta etc.
All the bikes are fine but you must maintain them properly and ride them as a trials bike.
Go to trial ,see what they're all riding and talk to the riders.
yep, all brands have their quirks or things to keep an eye on. I think the biggest two things to remember is like stated above "ride it like a trials bike" and periodically check all the nuts and bolts for tightness............
smaller front sprocket = more direct placement of torque to the rear wheel.
This makes every gear "hit" harder at the rear wheel
That is why in muddy sections you select a higher gear to reduce rear wheel spin.
The 2000 Sherco I used to have, when I got it felt like the gears were a half a selection off, had a "useable" first gear and second was a hillside gear and third was almost unusable. So I went with a smaller front sprocket (needed to use a half link though) This made first a tractor gear that was good for tight flat land sections with many turns, second was good for a bit more open sections and some hills and third was great for the bigger and longer hillclimbs. etc. and with Sherco's 4th and 5th are always trail gears.
Enduros take up alot more area. We will have about 5 acres of course and 5 acres of parking/camping.
That sounds good............I actually would prefer a MotoTrials only specific park. But that's the sport I like and it would be much more low key than an all inclusive "off road" park.
We need more places that are set up for trials with bike rental so that people can test it out. And if Enduro rides are also an option that will open up exposure to more people that bring their own Enduro bike out for a ride and maybe gets the itch to try trials.
Hey Biffsgasgas, Road Trip destination for Team WGASA????
I just want to know how long it took for the trials riders turned Enduro riders to realize that they do not get penalized for putting their feet down......
I just throw mine in the corner...........if it crawls back out on it's own then it is time to buy new trials clothes.
Actually Mrs. Zippy does the washing of my riding gear. So I put in laudry room and when it is clean she tells me to get it out of there. I don't have to deal with it so I don't worry if some colors are faded etc..
Most I have done is when really muddy sprayed off with the hose then handed over to Mrs. Zippy.
This mainly stems from early in our marriage I was banned from doing laundry. My method was there are 2 categories of clothes: Dirty and Clean. It only took a short while for all my clothes to become a dirty shade of grey. According to Mrs. Zippy there are more than 2 categories of clothes.
I have the same thing with my right elbow. this is the second time around. First time I did a drop off and "jarred" my elbow on the landing. Took 6 months to heal up. This time around I gave bike a little "extra" throttle and it tried to rip my arms off. This time took almost a year to heal and it still not 100%. But I am not smart enough to rest it or ice it.. I kept riding the same as before and kept my work the same as before............I really believe this slowed down my recovery.
Mr. Neutron, thanks for your time and advice... I think im in the same place that you were when you started...(=r...am I trying to blame setup for beign so lame :D )
It's always the bike's fault..........never the rider.......
Put your hands out about handle bar width, stand at the bottom of your stairs then twist right hand and run up stairs. Rememeber to use your brake on way back down
On a flat top he can, i'm sure...
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First off, you have the correct attitude of "I know how to ride a motorcycle in "insert motorcycle discipline here" but trials is a different animal and I will need to learn that"
It is really hard to swallow the pride that most of us motorcyclists have when changing disciplines. (I have only ridden trials, if I took up MX there would be SO much to learn) But once you get past that and start riding and learning, then much fun will be had.
OK my opinion on 2 stroke trials bike engine size, based on the need for low end torque for the sport.
125cc = no low end torque, rev the hell out of it to move 4 inches, MUST use proper technique to do anything.
200cc = moves better than a 125 still needs reved up and proper technique
250cc = starting to get some usable low end torque, need to rev up a bit but not too much, proper technique is helpful.
270cc = good amount of low end torque, decent rev range but if reved up a bit too much could get away from you
(Note: Sherco 2.9 = 270cc GasGas 280 = 270cc gotta love marketing)
290cc = As far as I know Beta Evo was the only one to have an actual 290cc bike and only for a couple years, was supposed to be a middle ground between the 270 and the 300. (they ditched it in favor of a 300cc)
300cc = Shed loads of low end torque, revs up great and will rip your arms off if you are not prepared.
now of course proper technique is the key to a good days ride, but in some cases with the larger bore bikes a bit of throttle and more grunt will counteract some poor technique and still get you up the obstacle. I don't have experience with modern 4 stroke machines so can't give an opinion on those.