You state that you have tried other 300's and they all seem "flat". The 300cc has plenty of power but the delivery is different than say a 270cc. The 270cc will rev up very quickly right off idle. The 300's take a slight bit longer to rev up/need more throttle to rev up. But when that 300cc is reved up it will rip your arms off.
I had a gear box oil leak once on the bottom of the engine at the center gasket.
Used some brake cleaner to clean the area up really good and stuck a liberal amount of silicone sealant on it. Making sure to get the sealent into the crack as far as I could also.
Why would you want super performance that wasn't reliable ?
let me put it in an analogy.
Tank = performance and reliable but heavy as Fook! performs at it's designed task perfectly for many years.
Formula 1 car = Performance and light weight but reliable for a little while. Performs great at it's designed task but requires much maintenance, up keep and engine rebuilds after only a few uses.
Both types of Trials bikes are offered at this time
Montesa and Scorpa = Tank
GasGas, Sherco = Formula 1
I do not have an opinion yet on Ossa, JTG, Xispa or Greeves.
I did not include Beta because I just don't like them. (must be a personality flaw I have)
Spare parts in a niche market will always be over priced. (and from what I have heard MotoX spares ain't much cheaper and are replaced more often. I.E. engine rebuilds) Also if you are trying to ride above your skill level you will naturally break more parts, so either get used to the fact you will pay for more parts to be a better rider or set aside the ego and ride a class down and just have fun. Also quit worrying so much about how the plastics look and just zip tye the things back together and go wrap it around another tree.
It is immaterial whether or not the average rider will be able to use the bike to it's full potential, what matters is trying to provide a product that the Majority wants to purchase and find a happy middle ground for both sides of the coin. Can't please everyone.
Yes there are things I like about my GasGas and things I don't. When the things I don't like outweigh the things I do like then I will look for a new bike that fits what I find to be important at that time.
we have differing opinions and that's OK we don't have to agree. And I suspect neither one of us will have any individual direct influence on the trials motorcycle manufacturers decisions on what to build or what materials to use.
So I will enjoy my seatless, lightweight, easy clutch, excellent braking and powerful motored bike.
looks to me as though it should have been welded in place. the hole it sits in looks like it has a ridge of weld there.
Maybe figure out how far it needs to stick out of the silencer and get it welded up. A decent Ally welder should be able to do it pretty quick and easy. Would help the welder out a bunch if you cleaned up as much oil, grease, etc.. off the surfaces as you can.
Did the lad survive telling dad about bike siezing?
I had a couple 80cc quads that when my boys were small I was having them ride and begin learning throttle, respect for the machine etc.... My mistake was I told them for the first little while to only run in 1st gear. I didn't want them going too crazy at first...........well a new set of rings ended up being needed pretty soon after they got comfortable on the quads. My fault on that one. (also could have been worse)
. I remember when I was motocrossing, the discs on my maico were only about 3 mm thick and full of slots. bent both front and rear in mud ruts at one meeting. How much better it would have been had they been 4.5mm thick like Hondas, they hardly ever got bent.
Maybe you should have bought the Honda then....... and had more reliable parts.
Same thing goes in trials, some brands seem to have more reliable parts than others. can't have super light and super reliable. buy the bike that fits what you want super reliable or super performance.
It's just that we are so polite we let everyone else have the glory
"Hey guys, sorry for that, il just put an apologetic foot down"
All the Canadians that I see and hang out with at Michigan Ontario Trials Association (M.O.T.A.) events are great people, not just polite but infinitely helpful. Excellent Trials riders but......... they are a bit kooky I must say. (takes a kook to know one )
OH and some interesting things mentioned in that original post.
Dadof2. Well I guess I interpreted your post incorrectly.
I don't agree with banning any of the space age expensive materials, you don't want magnesium cases or titanium exhaust, then don't buy the race or factory replica of brand XXXX bike. Buy the regular average Joe model that has alloy cases and steel exhaust. The people buy what they want.
Yes NASCAR is highly regulated. It is a professional sport. Now if you are suggesting that the World Trials Competition be highly regulated in terms of equipment. That's fine, but I don't agree with that regulation coming down to club level riding. Cable clutches suck, heavy bikes suck. Those things would take the fun out of riding for us mere mortals and that is why we do it. Because it is fun.
Yes I agree that trials manufacturers and the sport in general would benefit by selling cheaper entry level machines. But I highly doubt a repainted heavy twin shock from the 70's and 80's would attract anyone. Those coming from other motorcycle sports are already riding "top notch" bikes in their chosen sport. They will not be interested in a bike with 35 yr old technology. They would be enticed by something that at least seems like it is current and competitive technology at a lower price offered by an "established" manufacturer.
it looked like a "it's ok to pause as long as you try and look like your making an attempt" after a few moments of sitting still a 5 is tossed out. the rule i feel did what it might have intended to try and do, keep riders moving and not sitting still in sections all day.
rob
There was a 90 second time limit for the sections. So the riders would NOT be "sitting still in sections all day"
If 90 seconds was too long then shorten it up to 75 seconds etc....
Ok im kinda getting it. What plays a bigger role in hight of the rear, the bounce/hop/suspension or the second blip of the throttle?
Both......................
but actually with the same amount of throttle but different amounts of "bounce" will give you different amounts of lift. Hope that makes sense.
You could make it over the obstacle with little bounce but HUGE throttle and it will go over, or use half as much throttle and get the bounce technique correct and make it over the same obstacle with much less throttle.
Yes Zippy . just caught it in time by the looks of things .
Yep sure did....................... but of course I would have waited until it was properly broken before repairing it (you know broken kickstart lever and shaft, cracked clutch cover, etc... That way I could spend more time and $$ on it to get it fixed. Wow I can be really stupid sometimes.
And the reason they do is that the sections they ride them on are the sort of sections that more and more people are realising are what they want from the sport of trials not splating themselves against some massive rock. Not that anybody on here will ever recognise that fact !
Nope it's because they are old farts that can't ride stop and hop, still living in the "good old days" and have more disposable income than the parents with young kids that are trying to be able to afford clothes and food for the youngsters let alone a hobby.
Dang, did I actually type that out loud......................
I should have clarified that the 2.5 was available in 2000 and is still available through all models years to today. It was in 2000 that the 2.9 was introduced.
Different throttle tubes have different cam profiles where the throttle cable rides on the throttle tube, thus changing how much the carb slide is opened up in relation to the rotation of the throttle tube.
black = slow = twist throttle more to open slide all the way
white = fast = twist throttle less to open slide all the way
alloy = HOLD ON!!! = OH crap my right hand twitched and now I am on my
and get really relaxed!!
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You state that you have tried other 300's and they all seem "flat". The 300cc has plenty of power but the delivery is different than say a 270cc. The 270cc will rev up very quickly right off idle. The 300's take a slight bit longer to rev up/need more throttle to rev up. But when that 300cc is reved up it will rip your arms off.
This may be what you are experiencing?