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very nicely done paint job.
Looks close to the same color orange as the TY175 I had as a kid............stupid 16 yr old me sold it....dirt cheap too
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buying on condition and looking at the owner are good things to remember when buying older Modern bikes. (does that even make sense??? Older Modern??)
10yr old bike taken care of well that has been ridden by an intermediate class rider that gives the appearance of being tidy and meticulous in care of bike may have a lesser total cost to own than the same model that is only 5yr old ridden by an expert class rider that just rides it and puts it away, then rides again and barely tightens bolts if they need it.
I just bought a 2003 Gas Gas 300 pro from an expert class rider. But I have know the fellow for many, many years. We rode together as kids also. I know how well he cares for his bikes, he is pretty particular in fluids he uses, makes sure everything is fixed and tidy. He also gave me a good deal as well. But it is a 10yr old bike and was ridden at a high level until 2yrs ago when he got a new bike, so with my riding ability (crash and bash) I may find little things later on that need attention. Those things may just be because of my riding.
Basically it does help if you personally know the seller, and bear in mind the bike is used and in Trials we USE these bikes. So don't get too upset if after 3 months of riding something needs attention on a used bike, it was probably bound to happen anyway.
Every brand has its own particular little things that "go bad"
best advice is test ride as many as possible to see which brand "fits" you as far as riding position, motor characteristics, clutch etc....
over here in the states most people at events will let you take a bike for a spin if you explain that you are interested in the sport and trying to figure out which bike to go after. Also helps if you have prior motorcycle experience.....at least then you know where the controls are. (that statement will make sense after you ride trials a couple times)
Hope this clears anything up, or makes it clear as mud.....
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I'll be honest, I don't know all the magic tunings and performance greatness of motors. If it is set right then just Put gas in it and ride, I personally have not seen enough of a difference in performance for me to go through the trouble of changing fuel mixture due to changes in ambient temperature. Just make sure it is warmed up and go have fun. If it runs like ***** than maybe need to play with mixture.
Like the others on here I would not be concerned about some snow hitting the motor/exhaust while riding, seems it would be similar to riding in a stream/puddle and getting splashed.
Biggest problem of riding in 14F conditions is still being able to move after putting on all those cold weather clothes. (I found my fingers to freeze very quickly)
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I have a differing view on size of motor to go with. It depends on your riding style as to what size motor you want.
125 = Rev the hell out of it and kinda go somewhere, requires perfect technique
250 = Revs quick and launch, some bottom end torque for put-put
280 = Still Revs quick with bigger launch, and a little more bottom end
300 = Revs out nice and will put you on your ass if not ready for it, but has tremendous bottom end torque
(someone will point out if I am wrong on those)
On the bright side coming from MX you at least know where the controls are. Down side is for trials, all those controls are used differently than MX.
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Go the lazy route and stick the new sticker over the old (if it is exactly the same)
Trace the old sticker with hobby/craft knife and lift sticker and paint as one and the place new sticker in exact spot and nobody will see the missing paint. (again only if new is exactly the same as old)
Or use one of the more sensible suggestions the other guys gave you
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Yep me too I don't have to come in the top 3 to have fun (Although this year I have a goal).........................................But I still like to bitch now and then.
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We wish to make our opinions known before it becomes an issue. As many club level organizations tend to follow with "most" of the same rules as the NATC.
(Also gives me a platform to bitch. I am only happy if I have something to complain about )
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Yea I hear her "member" is bigger than Bill's
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2 checkers at each section is why I figured it would be difficult at club level. because it can be hard to even find enough checkers to have 1 at each section. But time limit at Nationals makes sense, Nationals are a step above club events and should be run as such. and should be able to get a minimum of 2 checkers per section (but probably still difficult to find them)
Other benefit would be riders will learn how to ride better, because the stop and rest with foot down will be taken away.
This is why I like stop w/ foot down = 5
I watched an Expert rider stop at the bottom of a short, steep hill with big log at top. Put his foot down and proceed to discuss with someone outside the section what would be the best tactic to tackle the hill/log obstacle. This discussion lasted no less than 2.5 minutes. (we do not have a section time limit) I just found this to be absurd!
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Danny Mac!!!! at 2:55 (ish) scene from "Long way home"
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I could go either way on time limit in a section at club level. Nationals and World Rounds Definitely section time limit.
(seems difficult for a single observer to watch rider and accurately keep track of time. May be difficult at club level)
In my opinion: Problem fixed and more focused on control of the machine which is what trials is all about.
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If I get one of those helmet stickers like Bou at the beginning of the video, I could ride like that too??
Nice vid, good camera work. Excellent riding.
Sometimes when watching indoor Xtrial I keep thinking they are playing a game of "The Floor is Lava" like I did as a little boy jumping around the living room on the furniture.
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Many of my drink thoughts get me in trouble.........
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Firstly this is an American's point of view on MotoTrials in America. (Europe may be different)
Let's face it in this current day and age of SPEED AND BIG SPECTACULAR, Trials is well just boring to the average spectator. Yes our top guys have BIG steps that they do, but it is still boring for the spectator after watching 2 riders ride the same step. The following is what my wonderful wife told me when I had her watching a trials video "I saw him do that already" Me:"No honey that was Dude #1 this is Dude #4, see how the two riders place their front tire in two different spots, 3 inches apart, before trying the step" Her:"Nope, all looks the same"
If we go to NO-Stop and introduce speed and big steps then spectators are going to wonder why is there only 1 rider in there at a time, make it interesting and put in 10-15. Oh never mind, I will just go watch Endurocross or Extreme Enduro or MX. Regular trials is just not "Extreme" enough to get the attention of the majority of younger riders. And most of the spectators don't want to wander around the woods all day to watch it. Where do most spectators watch motorcycle events? TV for outdoors stuff and stadiums for indoor stuff. Where they can sit and be entertained.
For participation: No-Stop or Stop allowed makes no difference in trying to convert anyone. Most riders of other motorcycle sports look at Pro trials riders and say "Wow that was cool but I will not be able to ride that big of a step, and the lower classes look so easy by comparison that what would be the point? Besides that I am over 21 and don't want to have my ass handed to me by a 9 year old kid in the Novice class. I am gonna go ride some off- road trails, MX or Enduro." Is there $$$$ paid out to the top 3 in other motorcycle sports at the club/amateur level? That will influence many to stay with that sport also. Also our bikes look funny and basically can only be used for 1 thing. A club level/amateur that is riding for fun on an MX bike even set up for MX can be run effectively in the trails with your buddies on Sat. and Raced on Sun. Or you can take your MX bike and run it in a midweek MX then on Sat. do a Hare and Hound and on Sun run an Endurocross. (I know each race has different suspension needs if you want to place in top 3 consistently but I am talking about Joe Average that wants to dabble in as much riding as he can because he likes to ride. (Basically what the majority of club level trials riders would be that we need to increase our participation)
Trials always was and always will be 1 rider, 1 bike against the terrain. There is a certain mentality of individual that understands trials as being about control and is just "off" enough to enjoy the sport. We need to reach more of them.
I think some of the push for No-Stop is because some of the aging riders still want to be in a class with a cool name for the upper skill levels like they rode "in the good old days" Ya know Champ, Expert, Advanced, whatever your clubs top 2 classes are called, and they don't like being called Intermediate or Novice etc.... You can ride whichever style you want No-Stop, or stop-hop. I try to ride using both styles when that part of the section calls for it. (Albeit not really great at it) I agree with chuckindenver (I am starting to get worried now) that stop with penalty is a good compromise between the two. As I understand Stop with Penalty is: Stop and balance=0, Stop with foot down = 5. This will allow the balancers to do so and set up, but will also force the balancers to get better at controlling the bike or risk a 5, It will also encourage other riders to not stop when they know they will be putting a foot down and thus be similar to No-Stop.
Just my Opinions,
On Edit: OH Crap that was rather long winded, if you made it this far I thank you for being interested enough in what I had to say to read it to the end. If you just skipped to the bottom to read this, then to you I say
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I don't need an air compressor for me to get off!!!
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Be careful you may get sued by Sherco....................they tried resurrecting Bultaco first
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That would be a scary few seconds coming back down. It still can be done "No Stop"..........just would need an aircraft runway length of run up to get ready for it.
On a different rule: "crossing your own path". So if you launch over your path it is not "crossing your path"? at least that is what the video appears he is doing
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(either for watching this forum or the new "behind the scenes video if it really comes out)
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There are those "Old Boys" that seem to have a torque wrench fitted inside their wrist. and can actually get the torque within a couple ft/lbs of what it needs to be.
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Impact gun for removal
Torque wrench for install
Both tools worth every penny after just a few different repairs. Motorcycle, automotive, tractor, whatever.
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I pour old fuel into my truck, it gets mixed into 20 gals of good stuff and it don't know the difference........................ come to think of it the fuel mileage of my truck is so low it sits in the driveway more than anything else.........Probably have a tank full of stale fuel now. HMMMMM maybe I should go start the truck, if I do that I may as well load the Gas Gas into the bed and go for a ride!!! OOOHH I like that. Thanks Brucey for the idea of going for a ride! Now I have to convince the that I "need" to go for a ride.
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Impact gun takes the nut off sweet as can be.
Clutch holding tool makes torquing the nut back down much easier and less nerve racking.
It's a Sherco you will use it more than once. I bought the "proper" clutch holding tool from RYP here in the States. Don't remember how much, but I agree it was a crazy amount. But if I would have just bought the tool to begin with my first clutch removal would have been much cheaper. Ended up buying Tool, Basket assembly and pressure plate.......It was a bad day But I have used the tool countless times over the 7 or so years I owned my Sherco.
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Put an Albert on the pegs.
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