My primary gear had this. This is the gear on the crank. It had a very slight knick. Lukily i had an extra around to isolate. Take a nail file to each side. Fixed me up.
One thing that i have noticed about Bou is that he seems to go from the rear fender to the handle bars incredibly quick. He uses the whole bike when he moves. When I think i am doing something cool and then review the video I am only moving inches in comparison.
I think Bou moves more than any other rider which is why I think its all technique with him.
If it stays in the shaft it will do no harm, If I remember correct the nipples are alloy so a magnet won't work. I'd leave it then wait till you have to do a strip down and then retrieve it then.
I agree. The tube won't do any harm. If it's still in the case then why not pull it out rather than push it in? Small hook that fits inside the I'd of the tube will work.
This was posted on our local MOTA website. Located in a suburb of Detroit. Seems like a pretty neat little machine. A bit of a unicorn here in the states.
Using different materials for different parts of the frame is far from new, Greeves from the 1960s with the cast alloy front down section for example. The similarity between the Benelli and the Vertigo frame is probably no more than coincidence but something must have inspired Vertigo to use this construction. Very shortly after the Vertigo was announced DL said they had looked at other bikes for their strengths and weaknesses. Perhaps this look round did not just extend to trials bikes.
The Benelli price that is interesting. Full road kit, 4 cylinders and EFI all for about £4,500. Benelli are not made in very large numbers so it could be expected that the Vertigo should have a very competitive price.
If I were specifying a trials frame I would probably go for simple ferrous tube like Sherco and Gasgas. Vertigo must have their reasons for doing otherwise and it seems to work.
Gotcha. I agree that Benelli is a neat package and helps see what is possible.
The Vertigo is steel tube in upper / headstock area then alloy for the swing arm / footrest area so I would say it is much more similar in design concept terms to the Benelli.
So you think the trellis frame using multiple materials here came from Benelli? What's the connection from Vertigo to Benelli?
My fear is not the observer. Its usually that damn ribbon. I find that I find that I push my invisible boundaries in practice much more than the physical tape in an event. Try practicing with tape and cardboard cutout of a mean looking observer. All phobias will be removed...
All things considered I think Dibs will come out as a champion on this thing. At the Champ level it must be hard to transition and fit into a bike that fits your needs. From what I see Dibs and Dougie are cut from the same tree. A good rider on a brand new machine can't be expected to be on top instantly. His practice videos look great. He's put his riding career into Vertigo which is slightly different than his competition. Not only does he have to rely on his skill set but he also has to trust and prove trust in a new machine.
If Dibs and Dougie pull this off that will be monumental for them and the company. Hope that the investors put faith in that. I have never bought a trials machine knowing which investors are backing the company. The better Dougie can make that bike feel for Dibs the higher his confidence level will be.
I am at fault for drifting topics as well from time to time but I didn't realize that Vertigo had that much influence on Penrith WTC ticket prices. Maybe I am taking this out of context or just looking at the conversation too close or even not realizing that a distant topic belongs here.
Here in Murica we generally say "Thanks Obama!". Maybe its time for a "Thanks Vertigo!" Meme is generally the way to communicate this. I would make one but it seems to be out of place.
--Biff
PS Zero gear box failures on my many GG. The bell curve starts looking more like a symbol with every one.
Long story here. In full disclosure this is an account of my distant memory and my fathers account as told to me recently. He has told me this in full frustration pent up for 30+ years. As this goes here is the story:
In Western NY USA as a child I found myself excited to follow my father to each and every trials event. In this story I was about 6 years old. I was instructed on how to follow a "Loop" and that i was only allowed to be on the loop or in the pits if I were to come to the event. Mom was very burnt out with motorcycles at this point so it was only he and I. This was the golden year of 1982...
Three weeks before this day I am focused on my Sister who was trying to live up to dads expectation had dropped his super cool new SWM in the woods about 15 minutes before the event started. My dad was quite frustrated with her as it was his debut for his shiny new TL 320. Previous to this he was riding a second had TY250 which had several neutrals between each gear. Some times a neutral would show up on that TY250 right as you are approaching a hill climb. The TL 320 never did this in the short time that it was in his hands but its first destroyed clutch lever was now present and it was not his fault but very close to the start of an event.
After all father had moved to Trials because it was a cheaper sport yet he has already bought a weird bike at decent cost and now has to fix it on it inaugural event. My sister was punished by not joining her father for the next few events. I was lucky removed from any wrong doing and allowed to continue with my fathers permission to attend these glorious events.
On the day in question I had decided to "race" the trials rider my father through each loop. Here in the states its common to have 5 loops and 8 sections. I was a fast runner and not that interested in watching Dad struggle his way through Novice sections. He was a great thinker (hope he does not read this) but not that great at negotiating some minor sections. Well on this day an infamous Western New York trials organizer decided to install an awesome mud section. Years later I have taken the mud section and repeated here in Michigan just because a down and out mud section is a great thing.
Well after the event this virtually unused slightly abused TL 320 was very very muddy. This "thing" was the coolest thing in our house hold in my 6 year old eyes. When we got home dad mentioned that we should never leave such a bike in such a condition. I agreed... How should this beautiful yellow and blue rotax machine be left dirty. Dad indicated that he needed to clean up his riding gear and the trailer. He also told me that i was responsible for getting the bike as clean as possible. Eager to show my sister up on her earlier folly a few weeks earlier I took charge.
I spent much time cleaning the forks, swing arm, cases, and skid plate. These are high mud catch areas as any 6 year old can see. Its obvious. As I spent much time in these areas i was able to inspect the end result. At this point I noticed an obvious additional point of concern. Yea it was that pesky two pipe exhaust..... As all of you know the SWM pipe has a very noticeable exhaust point. Two little 90 degree bends at the back of the most rearward point.
Well as I was eager to do the most thorough job cleaning the house prize and to move up the social ladder in the house of trials i went to town. My first idea was to stick the garden hose onto one of the two downward exhaust exit points. I quickly realized that this was not ideal as the second exit point was getting me wet. My 6 year old brain in quick response found a finger to resolve the issue. i plugged the extra port on the rear muffler with my finger. Wala I have solved the problem of me getting wet! I recall that there was a remarkable amount of time before water came from what I now know as the air box. Not deterred from my mission I stuck with the garden hose method of getting rid of all that is evil.
About that time I recall Dad checking on the progress.... Well it didn't take too long for him to realize what he had done. It was clear that he put his 6 year old in charge of something and that it was all his fault. He did take the opportunity to punish the 6 year old. I remember that part vividly. The suspect 6 year old went into the house covered in water, soap and tears retreated to his mother. She was not much help as I recall. She tried in her best way to say that I had some how attempted to destroy all that was holy for my father. I do recall the bike being upside down several times as my father was trying to start it. I still did not comprehend at the time but as I reflect today its obvious.
The only last memory I have of that day is of a really really clean SWM being ridden across the lawn at high throttle with what I recall as a lot of steam. I also remember the bike being upside down several times with Dad saying I am way too tired for this... As it turns out two weeks later he had to, as he states it "go into the engine" to do something he says "replace all that his son made bad".
Two years later my sister and I pooled our money and got a TL125. She rode one event and I rode it three years. I bought her out and she never rode trials again. Dad still rides today at 83 years old. I have bought many trials machines and own a few today. I consider my self relatively active in the sport as well. I miss his rotax SWM but will from that point on know the proper way to wash a bike.
Thanks for reading! Keep on the pegs. Keep your 6 year old from a garden hose and your trials bike.
woooaaaa wooooaa ..... stop !!!!!! Biff ....you cannot possibly have a girlfriend /wife ..... which chick would let you do a tear down in the loungeroom !!!!!!!!!!
and if she does then SHE IS A KEEPER .......
nice work , I do like the idea of ratrod trials ... my sy 250f has been resprayed matt black and all stickers removed and thinking of lepoard skin seat pannel ......vive le differance (sorry aussie here , we don't see many french)
I had to go through several girlfriends and a wife before I found my match. Yes this is a keeper and she knew of me tearing bikes down in the living room well before we started going out a few years ago.
As for unique designs this is not my first go around.
Here is the Carbon Fiber TY80.
Here was my old 300 in carbon Fiber.
Then the gasgas got some wood paneling.
That quickly board me so I transitioned to the plaid gasgas
Realizing that that was not also that robust i transitioned to the white.
Cope is right. These usually don't need a fuel tap to keep them from over flowing. Delorto's needle and float should keep it from flooding if not in use as long as it is adjusted properly. I would set float height and clean the needle.
I only turn my fuel off about 3 mins before I realize it which puts me just about in the middle of a section. Its happened too consistently to not be true. The only reason why i shut mine off is if i lay it down before going to walk a section.
Thanks Cope. Again this is all for the Mrs. I had to leave clothes in Germany when I was there over Christmas because her bike parts put me over luggage weight limit. I love me some steam punk and rat rod style. Cool? I doubt that... Weird... Definitely!
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My primary gear had this. This is the gear on the crank. It had a very slight knick. Lukily i had an extra around to isolate. Take a nail file to each side. Fixed me up.
--Biff