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Right, caught up now and seen the vid- thanks for the link. Well it's undeniably quieter and I am feeling a little bit of regret at having bought a "Fell off the back of an Appey" 2005 4RT, thus breaking my Beta allegiance, as it looks way nimbler than the sherman 4RT- especially as a lot of the trials I ride involve narrow becks...those Honda parts aint cheap. I note that the 4 strokes seem to bring out the feline annalogies- motors "purr" or "growl" ... loved the irony bit about "ripping arms out"- maybe a bit tiger-on-acid-like?. But to continue the theme, I think it's right that many people may prefer "a soft pussy licking their face", or something like that Let's say no more about the combined weight of the 4RT+Laia Sanz "bearing down" on those poor buggers laid in a line in another thread on this forum....

Nope, I'm obviously an internet dullard...tried clicking on all the links- got Steve saunders back-hopping and someone who clearly isn't steve saunders ina black top riding up a short steep bank..but where's the $rt bit? lazy links appreciated

...well, that's a good point for Bou, but I doubt Dabill's getting that much more with his non-factory deal. He could also have looked forwards to perhaps being factory numero uno (Freixa's not going anywhere but down), which would be very tempting. As rumour goes, Raga could have moved to Montesa a couple of years ago but he decided to stay on the GasGas and I for one think that was largely due to the performance advantage he rightly perceived he would have with the Gasser, versus a then unknown quantity. The other point I forgot to mention was that Saunders helped develop the bike- which is great as he has lots of experience in this field but he's clearly biased for all sorts of reasons. I look forward to trying one, anyway, things look promising. As they say in TMX, punters vote with their wallets!

"Is it me?" or: 1. Is anyone else having trouble locating the 4RT Vs Rev4 video that's alluded to in this thread? 2. Saunders is sponsored by Beta so ..."Duh!", (as I believe the yoof say) 3. I seem to remember Saunders doing rather well on a 4-stroke in the 80s, so, hey, he can still ride one! 4. If this is indeed the "wunderbike", why are Bou and Dabill jumping ship for the Monda? Answers on a postcard.

I've been trying in vain for several weeks now to get a response from Candy Wheels. They did once belatedly reply to my 1st email, but none of my multiple phone messages both on land and mobile line. I find that the land line answerphone is now full (not due to me as I only left 2 messages there!). I've not had any reply to my follow up email either. All I am asking is how do I arrange to place my order and get my wheels collected, or in other words, "I want to give you some money for a service you are offerring"- which should be music to any businessman's ears. Perhaps they have too much work on and can no longer keep up with demand? Obviously this doesn't fill me with confidence; thoughts of my wheels going missing for months on end with no means of contact spring to mind. Having searched the TC forums, I see there is also the "Trick Wheel Company" but they are "Dawn Sarf", and their recorded phone number does not accept in-coming calls! Can anyone tell mne of a reputable service somewhere in Yorkshire/Midlands, who can strip and rebuld wheels peoperly and do a good job on the anodizing? Any advice appreciated.

Well, do not despair, as I have bought one of the last few "cheapy 4RTs" from Appleyards. Iwas told (and I do happen to believe it wasn't just salesmanship..) that they only had 4 left of their batch of 35, when I ordered mine, 10 days ago. Oh yes, and HOT TIP: There are likely to be some discounted (but not THAT cheap) 06 4RTs coming to an Appleyard dealership near you sometime next year...

I would take a look at /replace the plug. This seemed to be the source of problems I had earlier this year with my 06 270. Changed to NGK BP5ES- now it's starting well again.

For club/centre trials, I preferred being allowed to stop feet-up/roll back without penalty. It was only to stop the top guys having ever-more dangerous sections, that things were changed. True, a time limit would have to be set, yet this was never a prob in club trials. I think the reason I prefer this is the same reason some will say they prefer "twin-shock"- that is because this was the style/type of riding when we were young and in our prime! Yes, I too have ridden some modern trials on a twin-shock Fantic, and my first few bikes were all twin-shock (TY80, Mont 123, etc). If you ride the modern class on a twin-shock you get a kind of perverse pleasure from doing "OK". In reality it takes the pressure off- you can always say to yourself- "oh-well, I'm ona twin-shock" rather than "Oh sh*t, I am crap after all, on my

Although the partisan amongst us were praying for a "5" I have to say that good old British fair play was deployed (I'd like to think the same would apply to Doug in Spain but i doubt it). I was stood about 4 feet from his back wheel at that section. The observer got it right. We can't complain just because another observer allegedly got it wrong elsewhere on the course. I too was amazed athat after all that dicking about, he was still in time!

I've been told there's a new carb option in town...it allegedly has mythical qualities-improves fuel consumption- (by not watering the land with petrol), improves power and obliterates choking. Before forking out 180 of your English Pounds, does it improve performance? Now I seem to remember someons stateside posting that someone had a Rev3 ona dyno with Dell'Orto carb and significantly improved power. But I'm told this is a flat-side carb- was the one ref to in the prev post such a carb or different model? I understood flat-side Kehilin carbs are temperamental, but great when working well- would the same apply to the Dell'Orto? I have NO knowledge of the murky world of carb set-up and never p*** about with jet-re-sizing experiments for instance, so any well-informed advice is welcome.

I've had probs with my 06 also...where the 05 was fine- seems to (very) periodically have a misfire- I mean real chitty-bang-bang explosion type misfire, having stuttered along leading up to it. I was wondering what a "5es" plug is please?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean either but sometimes drying the plug off and then try with half-throttle kicks then progressing to full throttle if no go

It's generally pretty classical sections, ie straight up streams/dry stream beds, some of which are limestone-type and very slippery. There are some loose rocky climbs, and a few twisty sections in streams over large boulders, where the odd bit of trick-riding is helpful. Sometimes there's the odd section in woodland but these were pretty easy last year. So in summary, woodland, streams, boulders, rocky climbs, just about everything except mud and sand....

I rise a 270 06 Rev3 and had an 05 before it.I've ridden my brother's Repsol Rep 05 4RT. I think it's easier going from Beta to 4Rt than Gasser, as the Beta is a bit front-heavy and so's the Mont. I was impressed with the steering- very positive and planted, not skittish like the Gasser. It rides lighter than it looks, but obviously still feels bulkier than a Beta. It does take some time to "trust it" on steps, and after spectating at the SSDT, it seems many marks were lost by riders rolling off the throttle too much and losing momentum. I agree that the clutch could be better and I personally couldn't adjust my brother's bike to how I like it, which is to bite very early. I've noted a vogue for tarting up 4RTs- really odd as there wasn't so much of a customising trend before they came on the scene. My personal feeling is that punters fall in love with the sound of the engine rather than the performance of the bike as a whole, and it is seductive! If you're not too fussed about your results, just want to enjoy yourself and like tinkering, I think it's the bike to buy.

...it was an experience On the way to the first section I though "this must be what miserable days at the Scottish are like". By the time I got to the first section I couldn't feel any of the fingers of my throttle hand..(still, they'd thawed out by the 2nd section), and I was thinking of perhaps only doing the first loop...I was also wondering how we'd get up some of the hills (as this course route is same as some of Dave Rowland Trial), and indeed home back along that track in the car+trailer if the snow got really heavy. The decision was made guilt-free for me by the organisers (wisely)cancelling the event after the first loop of 8 (or was it 9?) sections I have to give them credit- a) to the signing off bloke at the start who heroically stood with no hat or gloves...starting the whole field and to the Secretary of the event for giving it a go, hell, those Met guys have been known to get it wrong. Hope the weather's better for the Cleveland next week!

Well, it is sad to hear this, but... (sorry if the feminist trials riders out there are offended) 1. There are only a small percentage of riders who wish to partake in a british championship, whether they be male or female riders, and clearly the pool of women riders is smaller 2. Generally, women are less competitive than men and thus will tend to be less interested in a championship, valuing elements such as the social side of sports more than the out and out winning. 3. It takes greater commitment (

I bought some titanium footrests for my Beta- they don't clog, but the teeth could do with being sharper- might have to take the file to them. Was considering the hangers, but, am worried that this will effectively make the frame the weakest link, and the lugs are in danger of bending=

Just got home from The Hallam Arena (Sheffield)- what a night! The best Shefield for years- even though Doug didn't make the final Bou was the moral and actual (thank god) winner - those team-tactics from Gas Gas sucked. Still can't quite believe how Bou managed to ride the "race barrels" so fast. I've seen them done on the back wheel plenty of times- but not at warp speed- sensational! Marc Vinco was also fantastic entertainment and allowed the commentators the quality line of "Well, we've seen it done on a push-bike" (before the 3 finalists were about to attempt the Q8 Oils section in the final) Fantastic night, and I wouldn't bet against Bou for either world championship based on that performance- he can clearly hold his nerve, and above all, he's on the right bike.. a Beta Rev3!

Thanks Andy. I'll use that site in future!

Please could someone tell me Angela Sunter's postal address- not on the RMC website. I emailed her, but no reply yet. Thanks

I agree, late summer- Sept, say, would be a good idea, will attract Scott entrants wishing practice. Doesn't have to be a single lap- that is a lot of work. How about running it like the (now deceased) Ilkley Grand National- 2-3 laps depending on whether you're "clubman" class or "open" class (they weren't called this but you get the idea). This also eases the petrol check situation if you make it possible to do one lap on a single tank - ypou only need one area to marshall.

1st - Jarvis 2nd - Colley 3rd - Braybrook Standard time (5hrs 10mins) - Austermuhle Maia Conway - 1st lady "modern era" finish within time limit- finishing 71st - Well done indeed!

...yes, I am awaiting the "final instructions" but they keep on (not) coming. From my last bash atthis event many years ago, there were quite strict regs re the size/colour of number boards and numbering petrol cans. Maybe something in the post by this weekend?

Thanks for that. I certainly agree on the taking in water but avoid drowning in it line- took me an eternity to get my bike going the last time I rode it after drowning it whilst attempting to "overtake" some riders by cutting a corner...also rode the last 1/4 of the course ona flat rear (was pre-tubeless tyres and a Dunlop- cranked those security bolts up and it held on- fish-tailing round the course- even had some good cleans!

Re: getting air out of the rear brake, "it's a bitch" is abit of an understatement! With mine, I eventually had to buy a length of 10mm rod and cut to custom (ie longer than standard) length to get mine working again. This was after the outer rear caliper seized (we're talking well-looked after 2005 model here) after fitting new pads and "losing" the pedal toslave cylinder assembly during the Ilkley Grand National. Still, since then, has been working great (after new rear caliper under warranty). I always wondered whether I got the right length replacement rod from BVM as I swear it just ran out of adjustment with the one they sent me (and didn't have the original to compare as was lost on the moors somewhere...)