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what rich said, blow it up so its fully inflated to get it to shape. often when tyres are shipped in from abroad (often with IRCs) they come squashed together in a container, etc so most now come with cardboard inserts to keep them in shape and/or you have to use a tube to blow them up into shape.
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from my troubles with my 1999 techno 250, the stator goes very often "apparently", with people telling me i should expect to have to have it redone by west country windings every 2 years or so ....
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a guy in our club paid about
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another idea that strikes me after reading today's TEC minutes, is getting some proper IT guy to explain and pitch a proper robust online entry and event management system that could be hosted off a sever at ACU HQ (like the current permits ever), could be accessed by clubs nationwide (MX, trials, enduros, RR, etc) to manage their events, and be used by riders like buying something online (ie like the ACU's very limited online shop). the ACU office has credit card handling facilities, e-commerce facilities, a membership database to validate the entries against, it already is doing permits online ......
guys down here are asking these questions (ie how can we do online entries) a lot more now, as fewer and fewer people have cheque books. at the same time it seams a handful of promoters (exp in the enduro world) have built their own DIY systems that have various issues / teething problems with them. if we could pitch it big enough (ie ACU wide for all clubs and disciplines) the cost could be spread wide enough to make it cheap (eg a sump per entry) and at the same time justify having some decent IT support behind it to make it work.
the idea needs a lot more refining both technically, practically and most importantly financially (ie how all the money is handled in the most efficient way, especially on tax grounds)
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there are various consumer protection rules you can explore but not being watchdog i don't know which ones apply
i hear / read stories about used cars like you buy a
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under 16s & above 125cc is causing some real issues down here (like some clubs muttering UDI)
lots of clubs have got new comers coming to the sport, and want to let them have a go at a small scale trial (ie a really easy one) such as a club trial or a beginner & wobbler on their dads / mates bike - but you can't let them ride a 200/250/etc.
now in mx kids get on a 250F at 14, and over in trails the difference in cc isn't reflected in the bikes like say mx/rr/etc
not asking for kids to ride 250 in nationals or whatever.......
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since i (down here in the south) have never yet met the owner/operator of a trials practice venue i don't know if any of them have any cover (even though there are various operators out there plus several clubs such as Scarborough, berkhempstead, etc). best bet would be to phone Locktons Motorsport in Manchester and speak to Dawn Luby, or try Doodsons.
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you mean "Cheng Shing" which are Maxxis (imported by Bickers UK PLC, which is owned by Maxxis)
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no not just cash, it's life (in the UK...)
to a limited extent there are some greater expectations / obligations when it is a business (ie a practice for cash venue) esp around the health and safety stuff, but the planning and insurance stuff would still apply if it was just you practising on your own land (ie risk of you hitting a walker, etc - but i think something like an NFU farm policy could cover you for going around your land, on your bike - rather than saying you are practising trials on your land).
re horsey events - they are quiet under planning (but so are trials), so you've your 28 days of GPDO, which if they exceed they can be prosecuted for. again the stuff they do is in the eye of the beholder, like it is for a trial - so toilets on site, cards for marking out the event, etc are the same for them (ie horse jumps, etc) as us.
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we got the 94 crank in the end, it doesn't fit exactly but my old man and an engineering friend of our re-engineered it to make it fit and it worked
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had to this twice to my 99 techno 250 (owned it about 5 years with minimal use), apparently the components with the stator just fall apart with age.
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i think it's vic madley of the mwtra (mid wales centre enduro promoter / club / timing guru) who makes them in day glo orange or green, on a waterproof sort of papery stuff that is great for repeated use in all weathers with a staple gun. we've several thousand for our enduros and use them for trials too. try http://www.mwtra.redwoodweb.co.uk/ for contact details
if it isn't him, i could ask around our enduro guys and work out who they got them off
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falling off a rock while riding it is no problem on your own land, but -
* planing wise you can only do so 14/28 times a year before you need planning permission
* if you didn't have the rocks you probably / definitely need planning (and an environment agency dumping ticket) to bring them in
* if you ran a business (ie practice venue) and i paid you, then you have legal obligations to furfil (public liability insurance), i the rider have to have third party insurance
* for practice its grey, but one could argue the same legislation requires you to notify your chief constable
* if a club (rather than a business) does something then the Health and Safety at work act isn't quiet so onerous (but this is open to interpretation).
at the end of the day there are plenty of places that ignore all of this, but when the **** hits the fan, your were warned (be it as rider, organisers or landowner) - the way it's been set up, us sad folk at clubs/governing bodies have gone out and covered our arses with lots of bureaucracy to get round these issues but if you want to set up a practice rather than event venue then you have surmount all these on your own
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with the greatest of respect to our friends north of the river in the eastern centre, there is a set way of doing things and they are very keen on carrying on with them. their online pdf version of their gazette is very good, but to squeeze absolutely everything into one printed form that is there to do everything (grass track, mx, enduro and trials) is a challenge. we have a "gazette" (TSM) down here in the SE (covers SE, Southern and South Midlands) that does exactly the same and i understand the SW has its own too.
the other way to look at is, and i get lots of these, is phone the club up (at a reasonable hour) and just ask - i try my level best to direct people to all the right answers, and i'm sure there are club officials/riders nationwide doing the same
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the message from this should be;
when you start to do work for any events; a) get a permit, sign people on the officials form when you start the work (even if its weeks before the event, c) check everything is kosher with you setting out ie riding bikes would count as a permitted development under the 14/28 day rule, the ACU insurance doesn't cover you to use vehicles (eg a tractor, digger, etc - probably does cover you riding a bike on normal off road land)
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there is no list, but the handbook does a diagram about the spec and lets just say no one has tested that all the tyres we are talking about match it .....
re the pirelli MT43, the current one (for the last year or so) has been down (from pirelli) as both suitable for tubed and tubeless use, while before that they made two types (like IRC do), ie a tubed and tubeless tyre
as to what tyre to use, the real question is what sort of level of rider are you, what's your budget and what sort of use do you want?
ie if money is no object, your an expert and ride rocks, then a Michelin trials light might be fore you. if your a tight fisted ex student who couldn't ride a novice route for less than a windmill score (that might be me then), then stuff like the pirelli (middle of the road) down to budget tyres like the vee rubber, mitas, etc might do. again pre65 or tubed is different form tubeless while some tyres are better on rocks, while others are great on mud (ie might work in the south and or the winter).
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silly question, but any feedback on the Heidenau K67 ???, any news on who is importing it?
might as well ask is anyone still selling the Bridgestone TW24 ???
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Been lurking for ages, busy with running / occasionally riding way too many events, ohh and working (to try and get my bike going again!)
Let em start by answering the second part of your question first and then returning to the first sentence for the planning law implication;
> What are the legal implications of allowing riders to practice for a daily fee.
a) In England and Wales - the GPDO (general permitted devlopment order) allows you to use a bit of land for trials, esp trials practice 28 times/days a year. a hot concil might count all days a bike is on the land (like setting out , etc). this does not apply in SSSI or national parks. Scotland, NI, IOM, Channel Islands, etc - diffrent planning law, i don't know the answer. Thus for more than 28 days you need planning permission, in a SSSI or national park you need plannning, etc. BTW other usages (eg a shoot, hunt, car boot sale, etc) are part of this 14/28 day rule.
BTW if you changed anything, like digging holes, bring in rocks, etc you might also need planning permission, depending on the work, etc.
Interpretation of all this varies considerably (ie on a case by case basis) with each of the 250 or so different local planning authorities in the UK.
sound could be a problem and there is the 'environmental health' part of the council that could come after you - less likely with trails compared to say mx
c) insurance - the riders are in a "public place" under the 1988 (as amended) Road Traffic ACt (even the infield of a SX stadium is a "public place") and thus require Third Party insurance that won't be part of their normal road policy (for road legal bikes). you the organisers and/or the landowner will also need insurance for this activity ("public liability"), mx practice track buy such policies from brokers such as lockton motorsport, doodsons, etc. if you ran it as a business, the health and safety at work act requires you to have an employers liability policy for your staff.
>I have a 40 acre woodland with stream, rocks, roots, cambers, hillclimbs and steps,
> the venue has been used since the 1970's for trials.
if you have documented proof (eg permits, trials results, aerial photos, etc) of ***continued*** usage (ie how many days a year), of both events, days setting out and taking in, etc that exceeds 10 continuous years you can then apply (with some skill) for retrospective planning for more than the 14/28 days of the GPDO.
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yeah i could do with another observer!
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Just an update to let you all know its thawing down here in the souf, and we didn't get much snow yesterday (Wednesday). Entry list and other details on the sidcup website.
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I was referring to chewy's comments about sitting there cutting the tyres with a razor, rather than manufactures cuts in the blocks
the rules (2009 version, haven't got 2010 yet...) are below; (the is a diagram too in handbook referign to the block layout, etc).
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i have to admit i stuggelled in the deep snow in kent with an X11 (on a gas gas 200), my old man says he always had more luck with the pirelli in the snow - but hey it was great fun!
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at the end of the day sales will determine it, if the 4t sales drop off a cliff the montesa is in real trouble...
two questions for you all;
a) has California actually banned all two strokes - if so, while it doesn't affect trials, but it's one of the largest off road motorcycle markets in the world
what is the latest on European emissions legislation (ie are we going to end up with EFI'ed 2Ts)
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NKTC (Team trial) is off - http://www.nktc.org.uk/
EKTC (GEST) is off - http://www.gest-club.co.uk/
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NKTC (Team trial) is off - http://www.nktc.org.uk/
EKTC (GEST) is off - http://www.gest-club.co.uk/
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