slapshot 3

or many SSDT's over the years.....

As long as we don't have a maximum rider weight I'll be okay.......

Don't give him a hint Perce, he might just do it.....

Methods for avoiding dabs..... Make sure the bit of string that keeps your boots together isn't too long or do what i do instead.......take 5s

Getting pricey at

What's difficult, if the front wheel stops moving it's a 5, dead simple. sorry boys just catchin up..

Andy, Seem to remember many nights in Fort William arguing the same thing... donald

your old what? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> bloody kids these days no sense of history!!! Raleigh bicycle made in the late 70's early 80's very chunky (read heavy) and could cope with me and the stupid things I used to do without an engine. Pre the first BMX bikes but I just broke the BMX anyway, 6 if I remember rightly. You Youngsters don't know what you missed!!! Whip off the naff handle bars, the saddle and all the other pointless bits, stick on an old pair of Fathers renthals a proper saddle and bobs your uncle. Bunny hops, endos riding sideways up steps, we were doing that stuff 25years ago, never mind now...... see some notes below and hopefully the pic will work as well from nostalgia.com Launched in 1976, the Grifter became the ultimate 80s bike - chunky and funky with hand-twist gears . . . This was BMX before BMX. You even got blisters on the insides of your hands (from doing wheelies you understand!) And with a deft fold of the rear mud flap you had a realistic moto-cross noise - even if it did leave a U shaped melted hole on your flap (oo-er missus).

Have to agree, thats superb. My old Grifter could never do that!! It also triggers my initial thoughts, is this how we want to see trials develop, because were nearly there already. Look at the indoor and some of the rounds this year. Personally I think we've gone too far and we need to get back to no stop. From the pics we've seen of Duluth earlier this year, pitch some of the natural stuff there on a no stop, that would be a test. The reality of what we see now means that we might be able to hold a WTC trial in a shopping centre car park in a year or two, hopping up and over the barriers, walkways and overpasses. I don't fancy that much.

Hi All, Just a hypothetical to fill a long boring night shift. We've reached the end of the season and one of the things that has struck me is number of times Andy has talked about the "man-made" element of outdoor trials and the severity of them, pushing the GPs to a "circus-like" trial. These bikes will do anything so where is the limit. The stuff is great to watch but it's great to watch the best riders in the world compete on any terrain What would we, the trials riders/afficionados of the world like to see in the championship in terms of rules, time limits, the nature of the sections that sort of stuff. Personal view; go back to no-stop, all sections in the World outdoor championship should be made up of natural terrain. No more man made arena type sections. With no-stop there will be no need for a time limit in sections. 1 minder only, not three or four plus a water/food/paper tissue carrier, any of that nonsense. Take trials back to what they should be, a battle between man and machine and the elements. Like i say long boring night and purely hypothetical FIM wouldn't listen to the punters, would they???

Guess we can all pray its back, some of the best sections of the week. Achlain Farm was also superb, some brilliant sections. Think the eason it went was because of parking problems as the group became more popular, I'll happily stand corrected though. Thats another group I'd love to see back

my tuppenceworth: Raga - won't leave Gas Gas or Jordi, but this IS his only outdoor title Fuji - Honda they have to have a japanese rider Cabey - Sherco, it's getting him good results Frexia - Scorpa, on the 4 stroke Grimbo - Sherco, 4 stroke development (depends on FIM i suppose) Bou and Farjado will stay where they are Doug will shock the trials world coming out on the fabled 4 stroke Aprilia secretly built and tested in a small family engineering works in deepest Yorkshire. He will take a clean sweep of all rounds and finally be recognised (as we all already know) as the greatest trials rider in the history of the sport. Seriously New Super team of Dougie, Tony Bou and James Dabill on the Beta. The "Old Bloke" takes title #8 before handing it all onto the next great British trials hope, James Dabill........you never know

Saturday's Weather: Looks not too bad, Mainly dry with an isolated shower or two one or two might be a bit heavy, not too breezy temperature up to around 19 or 20 degrees. Weak front over the north of the midlands shoulkdn't cause too many problems. Party time looks predominantly dry Sunday very similar

Morning Chaps, I'm insanely jealous cos I can't go to Hawkstone, (Typical of my mother to have her 60th Birthday Party this weekend), however some "proper weather", not those cheap crappy things we put on the main web site, I won't shop anyone for dodgy link, bu$$ers want to shut us down use what you like, However: Pic below Friday: Rain heading south maybe the odd very isolated shower. temps up to 21-22 deg Sat AM: Rain still heading for the Hawkestone area, patchy rain in the late morning Temps down to 10-13 deg Sat PM: Rain, mostly light and patchy but the odd embedded heavier burst. Temps 17-19 Party Time: Whilst sober stay in the Marquee don't let the rain dilute the beer or the Scrumpy, when you are drunk who gives a damn!!! Sun Overnight/AM: Rain, Light and patchy odd heavier burst. Colder overnight tem down as low as 9degrees. Sunday daytime: Should be generally dry, very low chance of a light showers during the day. Odd sunny interval late morning into the afternoon. Temperatures 19 - 20, Tempers hopefully by numerous Spaniards (no offence to any who use the board but it's OUR round) Shrewsbury area always on the edges of the rain band so you might be really lucky and see no rain at all. The pic: The darker and smaller the symbols the less intense the precipitation. this also indicates the patchier nature of the rain, bigger and brighter, heavier more prolonged spell of rain. Hawkestone is getting a good dumping of rain at the minute so it'll be nice an wet under wheel at the weekend anyway. I'f you're lucky I'll get a chance to past similarly tomorrow

I wouldn't pay too much attention to weather.com - their long range forecast isn't that great. I'll be keeping an eye on the Met Office site through the week though! Good Man Andy, these amateurs are crap While you are at it gonna sign the petition at the link, in fact everyone do it. I'm too bloody old for a career change. ta Donald Save Scotlands last Met Office

How many peeps have put a stone on in weight in the last year ? !!! IMHO Don't think weight is really an issue, I had a shot on a mates Sherco 4t on Saturday and WOW, awesome, I honestly didn't notice much of a weight difference to the 290, not that I rode it for long though. I'm probably the worst judge in the world but to be blunt unless you're name is Lampkin or Jarvis etc why does 5 kilos become a problem. Went back on my Honda, now there's a weight problem. Looking at the Scorpa it looks the doggies danglers, much better than the sherco or the Mont. My numbers come up, I'll be heading down the road to see Mr Birkett, that's for sure dy

Depends whether I'm riding mine of just looking at it

Okay, had a play in the woods beside the office and it's great. smoke a wee bit but didn't expect anything else, shouldn't need a tanker behind me any more Throttle response is much quicker and it's a smoother delivery than before, not snatchy at all. Roll on Saturday (Classic club trial at Thornhill, scramble on Sunday) dy

...and I daresay we will probably add yet another Lampkin on to that as well....... any word yet

Come on guys, is his performance this weekend anything less than we've come to expect from The Man, the guy is superhuman dy

Hi Guys, fixed and going like a steam engine, (which is a b*gger cos I want a trials bike ) Valve timing out by a few degrees, must have slipped when finishing things off. It's now reset and running lovely. Stripped the carb as well, it wasn't that bad but it had been lying in a dusty engineering factory for the last couple of months. I am now a happy bunny and going for a play during my break (night shift again!) dy

Hi Gordon, going to have a look at the carburation and the timing again tonight. Could be the carb when I think about it. I'll let you know Regards Donald

Very light hone and a new set of rings for now, basically ran out of time in the end. Just need to get the timing set up properly, it's running but starts spitting and banging and there is some resistance in the engine when you try to roll the throttle on, even as little as a quarter turn. Mate is coming out here tomorrow for a look, he my expert!! BIG thing though NO SMOKE, see what happens tomorrow, donald

Left hand side on the Honda forum...

Well....it's back in one piece thankfully, wee snap below. It's not the work of art that I've seen on here but I'm happy with it.......now if I can get the timing right I might get to ride a trial next weekend dy