1. In Scotland/UK you can ride a moped/50cc restricted machine from the age of 16, you can ride from 17 on proper bikes up to 125cc/25kw/34BHP if you have the right test at 18 anything you like basically (in Trials terms). Don't know many trials bikes with that amount of output.
2. Unless the regs SPECIFICALLY state an age limit then as long as the riders conform to the laws of the road you cannot exclude them. The Pre 65 regs as posted by Greeves state no under 18's, again the club rule delcared on the entry pack. There have been/are (possibly) 17 year olds in the main trial riding 125s.
I don't know why the age thing has suddenly become an issue, maybe just something else to disagree with the club about and the ballot and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
As long as entrants comform to the laws of the road and the Trial Regs what's the problem??
Guys,, Im off tae look at a 290 sherco which is a good looker commin fae the owner.. is it a GOOD or a BAD bike mechanical wise an in a TRIALS bike.. whta do i need to look out fur, its an 03, any further than this would help me loads. cheers. an Happy new year.. john
The 290 can be a fire breathing monster very sharp to the unwary, stopped my old man riding modern bikes, till I got him on a silky smooth Beta. Check for any softening mods, slow throttle, flywheel weights, gearing that sort of stuff.
Unless you are an experienced trials rider It's not one I suggest, 250 would be better
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Hmm.... seems we're missing a few posts from this topic from earlier
Quite embarrassing
No the thread is as it's been posted dbf, nothing in the deleted box mate.
The popularity is THE reason they only have to tweak things as you say, if only 30 folk entered there would be a problem but I don't see the few naysayers creating a boycott some year, do you.
One thing that does come to mind and i'm NOT slagging the event or organisers so bear me out please.
I feel we need to decide if the Pre65 Scottish Two Day is supposed to be a competition or a pagent?
Paul,
first comment was a generalisation.
From above: the point is it's bugger all to do with us, it's the decision of the organising club not the riders to decide the rules and regs, you like them put an entry in you don't, well I quite sure folk can spectate, help out or find something else.
You've made a comment in the thread about the Sportsman Class about the changes YOU have made to YOUR events to make them more rideable, It was YOUR decision probably based on feedback and you manybe have the option to do that. I don't think the Edinburgh Club have that choice, they react to the pressures of the demands of this one event.
You are the one who is blind and cannot see the truth in the world. You live sheltered in a monastery of your hate, and cannot admire beauty and truth while I snort the cocaine of excellence and bang the hooker of awesomeness. - Wonderlance
What are you on Donald ????
& Happy New Year to all.
It was a line on another website I inhabit that I couldn't resist, nearly wet myself laughing at it!!
Happy New Year to you and yours mate
Steve, Like I said, wherever you venture, just enjoy getting out on the bike
Oh you'll get a frosty reception from a few on here at the mere mention of an AMCA club up in Scotland
HERETIC!!!! NON BELIEVER!!!!
Join it fella, great trials, great venues, just one or two of their members are a bit touchy though actually having just bought a 315r you may even know one of them
Steve, there's something for everyone and the choice of clubs is your own SACU (or that other lot ), BAMCC run 12 club trials a year with a yellow route for beginners before you step up. Wherever you go....ENJOY!!
200 in here and How many columns in TMX?? Often contentious, ALWAYS thought provoking it's always been an interest to read your articles. As trials Journos go yourself and Ralph Venables always cut to the nub of an issue and whether you like the personalities or not(maybe it was the generation(s) gap with Ralph), you had to respect what was written because it was written by another trials rider.
Editorial style articles are always different in that they are supposed to get under the veneer of the subject and you've always done that. You will be sadly missed Mike and thanks for making us look just beyond the sport.
Wonder how many of these posts are regurgitated from previous years??? Sorry chaps but a lot of this comes over as sour grapes every year.
Their event their rules, the line from the regs is quoted already so no need to go back over that.
I've attended the event from year 1 and the line up in machinery has changed so much. Over the last 5 years observing you notice how more and more the machinery is becoming less and less Pre 65, there are so many bikes and bits of bikes in the trial that couldn't feasibly be pre 65, yet they are there year on year. My view is that it needs to get back to what it was meant to be. These "modern Pre65 bikes" are a bit of a laughing stock really. Cubs with casings redesigned to take Gas Gas clutches and other internals, Forks which are quite blatantly "cut and shut jobs", original sliders welded over modern internals, it is laughable.
When you look at how original bikes should look they are so much more pleasing to watch, the most obvious I know are John's Matchless and the Cub that Feet up Dave uses, for me, thats where it should be. Pre65 Ariels look NOTHING like what you see in May and other than the Staniforth family's very original James' the rest are out of place, Cubs, BSA'a where do you want to start. Technology is caught in a time warp because a lot of the technology and engineering expertise you see in May every year just wasn't possible in the early 60s!!
However, back to my first comment, the club have the right to run their trial the way they want to and whatever that is I'll continue to support it in any way I can. It is an amazing event, one that as Trials fans we should cherish rather than spend time slagging it off!!
I'm sorry to have to say this but 2WD and 4WD doesn't matter that much its more down to the tyres and the driver. Many 4x4s these days come with wide sport patern tyres which just don't work well in snow and ice. A couple of years ago I was driving home and got to a steep up hill with a tight bend half way up. There were cars and 4x4s everywhere. One 4x4 driver coming back down after failing stopped me half way up and said it was impossible. I smiled pulled off again(from the steep bit) drove around all the other cars and disappeared over the top. God knows what they must have thought. I was in a Honda Civic. Now, I live on a hill side in North East Scotland and have driven in deep snow all my driving life so I know how to drive. I also have a pair of snow tyre on the front. Not the studded type just normal tyres with a slightly different patern and high silicon content compound.
If you haven't driven on snow tyres you just won't understand how good they are. It doesn't need to be snow and ice either. These things work better than a standard tyre when the temperature drops below 7 deg C. They cost less than most insurance excesses and you can use them for a few years if you change back to the normal tyres again in spring.
I bought a soft road 4x4 last year just as the snow started and found it almost undriveable. I bought snow tyres for it within days and have them on again this year. Nothing's stopped me yet and I've had to plow through up to 2-3 feet of snow on the roads in the past few weeks.
It's easy to look at online video and comment of the cars but we don't know which tyres they have on or how good the drivers are.
+1
We live at the top of the hill between Stonehaven and Banchory, bout 800ft up. We've had two pretty horrendous winters and despite one minor off a couple of Sundays ago that I'd challenge anyone to get out of, I've never had any problems and it does come down to tyres. The difference is massive on winter tyres, when I drove her car the other day it really showed how much difference there was.
When we were in Germany we had winter tyres fitted from October to March, they don't clear or grit/salt roads over there and you quickly learn how to drive in poor conditions, maybe our governments should follow suit.
I nicked that photo from another forum where half the folk are scratching their heads and not seeing anything wrong! Thankfully Blocky has explained it well for any TC'ers who don't get it!
Awfy glad you added that comment, i was about to take the p*** for you taking Picy while driving!! :biggrinsanta:
some of it is probably image and maybe not true but how about the first World Champ ?
Martin Lampkin, drank beer, rode a bulto, won everything in his day.
No Bull !
Great minds think alike mate .... I used to have a Martin Lampkin scrapbook!!!!
Anyway, the GOAT (greatest of all time) to date is Doug, no question. He took the sport by the scruff and moved what Jordi did to a new level. 5 consecutive Circus titles, 7 consecutive proper WTC crowns, 99 GP wins.
Will he stay in that position?? remains to be seen. Bou is a genius and has changed the sport again HOWEVER what if he has a major injury? What if he stops? The what ifs are important because until he beats Dougs palmares and comes to blighty and wins the Scottish and the Scott, he won't be the GOAT!
Codge!
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