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..and could the commentator have been more sychophantic towards the Spaniards...don't think so.

Could be.....could also have been a Mrs Big John that said NO....

Interesting twist on this thread but very logical progression. Personally, I can't afford to think about a new anything much as Id love to therefore i'll just look and lust after it and hope I get a shot of one . However if you look at the second hand market there are some fantastic bikes around, let's face it, how many of us just let our bikes fall apart, we all value what we have too much. It's a cr4p situation for those intent on moving bikes on because the values are so flat, especially when dealers chuck year old bikes on the markets at hugely deflated prices. Depreciation is something everybody faces and it's a by product of buying new.

Go on rise to the bait, I could do with a giggle

Read something somewhere, probably on here, about the 250/270 Beta, 250/290 Sherco debate. What's suggested is that the bigger capacity bikes were designed to be much sharper for the Indoor scene where instant delivery is a must. On the few occasions I rode my old mans 290 Sherco opening it up could be quite scary, the power was handlable but not the sharpness of it, vicious at times; he couldn't handle it either so got rid of it. Similarly the 270 Beta feels the same, overly sharp and fast for me, my 250 is nice and docile but she can bite back but that's only because I'm a crap rider. Mind you there can be huge a difference between 250's, his 04 250 Beta feels quite flat in it's delivery, my 02 is quite a bit sharper, maybe he has his on pensioner settings......... and if he reads this Santa won't come again this year

think stunning just about covers it...no space in the garage John????

The more I think about this the more pi$$ed off I get about it, the unfortunate thing is it's indicative of society today. What ever happenned to fair play and honesty, why does life have to be about puting one over on somebody else...personally won't go to them again....

I've just put a dipper down on a new Beta too... Number 1 in the queue so a big hairy a***d at all the indecisive buggers

Another rush on Kleenex sales......

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick Knoxville. The only "Get the Dealer" bit going on here is the lack of Integrity and Honesty they have shown regarding Andy Grieg and this website. If they want to advertise on here be up front and honest about it the same way everyone else does, if not then they face the consequencies of that, especially after the warnings they have had. If some have had positive dealings with this company then great but you have to question their judgement regarding the way they want to be portrayed to their potential customers. Someone looking for something might not go to that dealer now, as individuals we have that choice. Many years back I got shafted by a dealer, picked up an old Ossa with a knackered big end, needed everything and dealer promised to get them if I paid up front (as you have to), however over a 9 month period, I was blatantly lied to on an almost daily basis by this guy. Needless to say, the ossa ever ran again in my hands and apart from word of mouth the dealer's reputation was untarnished despite hearing many similar stories over the years since. Wish I'd had this avenue then, i'd have named and shamed as well. Andy takes nothing from this site, jeez he's not even a trials rider but he has created a global community for trials riders. Everyone involved in this community needs to respect that, dealers included.

The bike will be successful...how many hits on this thread now???

What Atom Ant said. Integrity......adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty It's not something you can sell but in life these days everyone looks for an advantage, for the dealer to do it in this way is beneath contempt. I think most folks on here would back the name and shame, I certainly do, nice one Andy.

Is Kinell going to do a GPS/Google Earth thing in May ??? (have to say boys the Scott thing is brilliant)

About to do the same just a thought though, what is recommended for use as coolant, water plus ?...any anti freeze do??

we all have lives to lead and unless trials pays the rent and feeds the kiddiwinkies then it always has to come second. DON'T give folks grief for giving up their own time for the betterment of the sport

Jeez, Kinell, I feel sorry for you but have to say even Mrs Slapshot, much to her disgust, knows most of the routes like the back of her hand these days, specially where to turn left at Lochailort i used to love hearing old stories my old man has hundreds but as I get older ( 40 today) I rather be getting some of my own

i'm with woody on this one. Another thread on these boards has been discussing the '83 Scottish. I remember the top section on Ben Nevis that year, two cleans Martin Lampkin and Bernie Schrieber, that was it. Long straight wide section with a big step in the middle awkward run in, didn't nee to be any harder than that. This year, Jarvis won on 14 marks next closest was 24. Rules: No Stop tough sections all the same though. WTC has gotten so far away from the reality of trials that it's unlikely to come back unless the FIM look at and enforce NO STOP, It is the only way that WTC will start to increase entires across the classes. The Scottish is a good indicator of that. Whether TV comes in or not, Sponsorship will only fall to the top two or three riders, it never does filter it's way down, same in every sport unless it's a headline sponsor, like the premiership. Money filtering down is part of the rules. It brings the old arguement back but No Stop really is the best way forward..no pun intended

Cheers neonsurge, just what I needed. No point making the change because everything works really well here. I'm getting up to 9.1 mb linespeed with a Voyager router. Sprog has wireless to his room and I can get my laptop going at the same time. Looking again I not the small print on the Digi phone......don't think we'l bother Cheers Slapshot

Contemplating BT Homehub thing anyone got any experience of it???

Nice South Easterly breeze, drops all the crap on the east coast, nice clear conditions in the west pleasantly warm......no not a forecast just wishful thinking

Have you got a calculater must admit I was only too glad to finish my first year, and your right Mark they think it is tough now, but must admit the changes have been for the better See you in May, You take care of the course, HL take care of the Admin.....and Slapshot take care of the weather thats what you get paid for GOD DAMN IT............................... depends on 1. HL and the TEE, she'll know what I mean and requests in advance boys what do you want: riders no doubt dry, glorious sunshine would be the order of the day OTH: guess He'll want it chucking down, nice soggy moors for you all, I believe Clunes is lovely in the wet even better in the snow... Jeez we're talking May, our HQ mob can't decide on next week

what do you mean? - we do arrange that weather - do you think that you come up here for a holiday? to ponse about in the sun and top up your tan? - no; we book the week of totally unpredictable weather to add to the challenge. back to your first post: 1983 my first ssdt year as well - 156 fantic (as well) with baconslicer number plates - dropped 566 marks - before you say anything the winner (Tony Gorgot) was the only one under 100 marks - you think its hard now?? will i tell them what you dropped Gizza5? basically we were riding the same sections you do now but with twinshock bikes and pre-sticky tyres. greetings OTH hope you and the gang are well. Go on tell us what Gizza 5 dropped......... Can't really say anything, I've never tried

Mr bigfoot, How you doing.....T&D, no dancing girls in there, what I did see was better though

font of trivia me..... as for the weather well, if we got it right 75% of all conversation in the UK would STOP... just as well everyone thinks waht they do