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You older boys will be getting your toy soldiers and action men out in a minute...

Gizza, Change your name to Saunders.......You can get Sammy miller to make yours up Clicky Linky...Post 9

Schreiber at Achlain, 1982. Can't credit the photographer as no idea who it was, but it would be pretty fair to assume it was Enrico. ...And on the Saturday he rode with a Killie scarf on......and I got stung on the neck by a ******* wasp; hero worship!!

I daresay Andy will have the stats but has there ever been a single thread on the foums with more hits than the beta 4t thread, over 7500 page hits, incredible.

Too Late Barry...EVERYBODY in the trials world knows you now mate When I got rid of the honda I din't think I'd fall in lust with a four banger again so quickly but I'll make an exception in the Beta's case

we're not interested on the road, only what the Girlies were up to

Typical dictatorship.......Andy only has one vote..one more than the rest of us put together

Now if only I could publish those photos I have of a stripped-down 4-RT factory bike gearbox (Fuji's) that I took in Japan... (Nobody's actually said I can't, but as I know it would cause a lot of hassle if I did they will remain offline and part of my private collection - along with most of the photos of the Japanese dancing girls ) well at least tell us whats in the pictures if your not going to show them, oh yeah and if you must you can tell us about the gearbox too. gearbox..schmeerbox. now about these dancing girls.... From the Beta Forum Andy keeps going on about these Japanese Dancing Girls so the poll question is this...Should Andy Divulge more of his Japanese Dancing Girls Pictures??

wonder how well the old man's would scrub up..... No greedy; enough to get a new Beta 4 banger would do

Couldn't see that at work last night but have to agree with Andy, cruel but funny...very funny Who was the guy whse Mont had a better crack at the Friday Section on the same page..I sense he was unhappy

It is not down to Gary, John or anybody else at Beta UK to make "announcements". It is down to the factory. End of. What's this virus marketing nonsense I heard about the other week, they are not using TC fro that are they??

What I meant to do was this...pillock As far as I am aware, there has been nothing official from Beta re pricing yet. In fact there's been nothing official from Beta period! As an aside, apart from the massive number of views on the front page article that are still rocketing up, the Beta forum on Trials Central has been the most viewed of ALL the forums this month - including the General ones. That's never happened before that a bike forum on here has beaten any of the "General" ones. centre of the Trials Universe...the TC Beta Forum It's been worth waiting for it looks superb even Mrs Slapshot thinks it looks the doggies danglers..persuasion time

Jeez look at the size of that rear sprocket...how many teeth on that beggar... Always wanted one of those when I was a kid

You'll be spot on

Do you think this is wise living in Stonehaven? Think I might just be at the door waiting..... Does look superb doesn't it, the 07 2T looked superb at Lumsden recently but even from Roy's pics it looks awesome......now wonder what mater and pater have bougt me for my 40th Birthday pressie......

Just seen the pics and WOW, it looks amazing. Can't wait to see one next to the 4RT just to see how much of a diet honda will have to go on to match up to it. It looks fantastic and Santa please don't scrape it coming down the chimney, I'll leave the back door open

All, granted my initial response was a little tongue in cheek however reading throught the thread many have highlighted the variables involved in creating traction/Grip So let's discuss: Grip - a colloquial term for the frictional interaction between two surfaces Traction - the dynamic process in which a force is applied directionally to a surface inorder to propel the body applying the force. Dynamic Grip - directional application of a friction force to create propulsion in the opposite direction (newton's third law) If you read through my first post, all those factors I noted are the dynamic functions necessary to create the propulsion elements in the puzzle, the creation of the force that moves us forward. The element of the TYRE is far more important than suggested, otherwise tyre companies would not go through this process to create the best possible tyre and compound for the job whether it be trials, motocross, F1, Rally, you name it. Let's assume that all trials tread patterns are the same the only difference is rubber compound and wall construction, more physics and engineering. The tyre companies have done this work so assume again that the Michelin X11 (tubeless ) is the best tyre available and in all instance we assume this is used. We use a constant tyre pressure as well say 7psi. Back end construction is fairly similar these days wheel, tyre, mudguard, swinging arm therefore weight is similar as well. What makes them different is wether they are Linkless or have a linkage. We assume every test is done on a Beta (linkless) suspension and again assume that Beta have done their homework on the bike to create the best balance between weight of the bike and the ability of the suspension to keep the wheel on the ground. We have created the experimental control, the same bike and the same tyre all the time. How do we vary this, stick a rider on the bike and instantly the variables change but the emphasis is always the same, keep the maximum contact patch in touch with the surface and its here that our rider comes in. Unless we apply this force in a certain direction (thrust) the bike won't move (Newtons First Law of Dynamics) and to do this we use the contact patch of the trye to create a patch of FRICTION on the surface we attepmt to ride over. Take fat useless git rider, me, I get shed loads of fives because i can't keep the Centre of Gravity balanced so the bike and I topple over or my feet go down to help regain the balance. I lose the contact patch too easily or I create a patch that I can't control. Now take skinny genius, call him Lamkpin if you like, He has an inane ability to balance the forces that control the bike in any terrain thrown at him he can subconsiously control the balanced centre of gravity of the bike at whatever angle it's at by altering the way his weight (weight = mass x the force of gravity(assumed 10m/s/s)) applies force through the contact patch of the tyre on the surface, using his weight and it's position over the bike and throttle control (controling the propulsion available). So ultimately we prove that what creates traction or grip call it what you will, is the rider and his relative ability to balance the forces acting on him and the bike and how he uses the power available to propel him over the obstacles presented. There's lots more to it but it's too many years since I studied physics in depth and I now have a headache, I prefer the simple answer....because it does either that or 42........

might be pushing it a bit... don't those ones just calculate the bonuses the underwriters will fiddle you out of???

Would be better if KTM invested some cash in the Beta factory to develop the Rev three and the new 4 stroke. Bigger companies helping the little fish out, would be beta all round Seriously, where would Montesa be without Honda

Black day for English Rugby .....Mrs Slapshot has already given me a thick ear for this ....worth it!!

PHB there is a place on the web called Pricerunner with nikon D50's for sale at just over

My old man swears by Barbours but then he's even oooooolder than Big John

FANTASTIC Can't wait to see some piccys

Get looking everywhere just now because there are some superb deals to be had. As hillary says