kramer

Please pardon my rant gasserboy, but............Of course! The all telling car park (parking lot) test is the ultimate proving grounds. In a car park one can proprely simulate all types of conditions: cambers, rocky stream beds, hill climbs, mud, dry grippy rocks, downhills, nadgery, etc...One can also test steering, suspension, wheel grip, gearing, etc.... Sarcasm courtesy of Kramer

Horses and Donkeys.......Donkeys and Horses Don't bring your Donkey to the horse races and if you do, don't let him bet. Equine humor courtesy of Kramer

Aint scorpa french? You are right T lad. I wanted to say French with Japanese motors. Dave, I think I see your point. You think that the 4RT is a donkey and they should have stayed with the 2 stroke. Sherco too? Scorpa too? As for big money, are you proposing a no-growth policy? Keep trials from getting too big. Keep it for the club riders, small two stroke companies. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but is that it? Gas Gas and Sherco are growing rapidly. Do we ask them to get out soon or pull back? Do we ask the factories and teams to put less into it and try and keep it small? I don't mean to be a pain in the ass but I don't see how you can stop a company/team from trying to grow and win. or why you would want to. K

Mr Outlaw Dave, It sure seems like some people want to see the four stroke fail. Why is that? I don't get it. I like all trials bikes, 2T and 4T, especially the new stuff. I thinks it way cool when a factory comes out with a new model. It is part of the fun of being a trials rider. Sherco has a new 4T and Scorpa is going to come out with a new 250 four stroke. I don't see how this is a bad thing. Or should we hate the Scorpa because it is Japanese and love the "underdog" Sherco because it is French/Spanish? What did the Japanese do to you to make you so bitter? Kramer

Good on ya Crosser! Go back to enjoying the sport. Good luck. the Kman

If the bikes are good then ok......but $1500.00 is a lot of money to pay for junk. "Cheap things can turn out to be expensive" Wisdom courtesy of Kramer

It should be noted that not everyone here is unbiased. Some people are very anti Montesa and bleed Sherco blue. K

What do you call the 4RT super cool f1type piston and the fuel injection with no battery? I think that's a first for a production motorcycle. The Pro is lighter but that is about its only tech advantage. Heck some of them don't even start!

did he have a little japaneise with a laptop chasing him?

Matt, your are in the canard club too. You're just not as bright as JonH. The difference between the two of you is that your are just repeating some rubbish that you have been fed. JonH is lying through his teeth.

JonH, your story is a pure canard... a lie. Canard: an absurd story which one attempts to impose on his readers: a false rumor set afloat by way of news. What is your motive?

hey jon, do you always carry a sound (db) meter with you when you go pratcising? Who is this mystery man/bloke that hhas a 4Rt before anyone else? what rubbish!