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Why would the ACU wish to do that? Currently clubs can shoose from either, we run three trials under TSR22A and four trials under TSR22B, no problem, everyone's happy. What would the ACU gain by making clubs use one or the other?

It was my fault the marker got knocked over and I didn't see anyone else knock it over and I only did it once on my third lap, so I certainly can't say it was in the wrong place. The marker I knocked over was from another route, and this was what prompted my original question. Pete

Sorry, I just realised that my link to the picture didn't work very well, I'll try it again. I have no idea who the rider is, I just thought that it was a superb feet up picture taken in a place that seemed to be costing others loads of dabs. Pete

Link works fine. Looking at the pics, there were lots and lots of dabs at this section but I like this one of a rider on a TYZ feetup. URL=http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/gobbysarah/Fremington%20Edge%20Trial/?action=view&current=IMG_0160.jpg][/url]

In this case it was nothing to do with the marking, it was my big clumsy foot that casued me to knock the marker out. Marking out club trials has got harder in modern times. The Clerk of the course simply can't get away with one route. I mark out three route in our club trials (plus two on the conducted) and I find it impossible to do ths using diversions. So I mark each route from start to finish with it's own coloured arrows. Some gates have all three colours but it does make it easy to follow. But even with this system, I have riders telling me the jump between the A and the B or the B and the C is too big and what I should do is have a 50/50 route like 'such and such' club. I haven't done this so far as it means working out the results on seven (with the conducted) different routes! The club where my 'five' occured does provide SIX routes, all with their own championship, so there is no way I am going to critisise the observers descision. As I wrote easlier, I would have done the same. For every 'soft' mark you loose you get away with a 'good' one another time, that's trials. Pete

It was an ACU trial and as I wrote in my opening post, I would have given the five myself but it is one of those situations that makes you wonder if it was correct.

Here's a multi route trial question to ponder, I was given a five recently for knocking out a marker. No problem with that, I smiled and accepted it graciously, we've all done it, that's trials. Had I been the observer I would definately done the same! However, thinking about it on the way home, I wonder 'if' it was the right descision? I was riding the yellow (middle) route and the white (easy) route came in from the side. The white and yellow markers were stuck in the ground touching each other with the white one on the 'outside' of the course. It was approaching a step and needed a dab which took out the white marker leaving the yellow untouched. Would you, like me, have given a five for knocking out a marker from a different route, or would you have awarded just the one?

I broke a bone in my left foot kicking over a Rev3 back in 04 and it still hurts me now, so I won't be rushing to buy a bike with a LH starter. Being on the left didn't cause the injury, it was the poxy Beta Stator that did it. I had only changed the stator (under warranty I must add)two events previous and the replacement stopped working (half way round a trial in a section on the side of a steep hill) after a while I became so frustrated I kicked the kick starter down in anger and.... broke my foot! My own stupid fault! Left the useless dead pile of junk on the trailer and took it straight round to BVM the next day and bought a new Scorpa. Needless to say, I have less than fond memories of my LH kick-non-start 04 Beta. Pete

Yep, I'll happily put on trials with National severity sections for the hard route if I can get 30 riders to ride that route. As it is from an (average) entry of about 50 I only get six to ten on the hard route. For the customers (sorry paying riders) who hopefully enjoy our events, easier is better. I'm guessing, but from the 80 or so riders who rode in our club series this year, all 80 would happily ride non stop if we introduced it for 2012. And I'd put a weeks wages on the fact that the same riders would still be winning. Pete

Surely there already is a method of determining a stop? If the bike stops moving forward then it's a stop. Not a pause, or three seconds or ten seconds. A stop is a stop. Be aware of the rule and expect a five if you stop moving forward. Is it not that simple?

WTC, BTC and many club trials are stopping allowed. S3, Miller Series, Normandale, Trail Bikes, all classic trials and some club trials are non stop. WI think we should have just one set of rules but we have two sets of rules because it would really upset a lot of people changing to one.

I agree that we 'should' have one rule for all. However, what I can't tell you is which rule to have? Currently, organisers have the choice and this works very well. I ride my Scorpa in trials that run TSR22A and my DRZ in LDT's which are TSR22B. No problems, providing you know what rule you are riding to then you ride accordingly. You will never get an agreement as to which rules to use, if you asked every trials rider to vote, I suspect there wouldn't be more than a handful of votes either way. Pete

AJP are looking at offering a trials kit for the PR3. 21/18 wheels, rear sets etc which would make a good LDT bike. Here's a clip of a standard one in action

Stand up for better balance and weight distribution and practice to keep it moving. Once you stop it makes it much harder to keep your feet up on such a heavy bike.

I agree that hard should mean hard but we do have to cater for the majority otherwise our events will become unviable to run.

Check out this club, they are local to you and put on some great events. http://www.wgdfmcc.org.uk/events/events_2011.htm

Nothing to do with TSR22A or TSR22B but even at our humble club trials there are normally around 8 on the A route, 20 on the B route and 20 on the C route (with a handfull of conducted.) Your average rider likes easy trials.

Dave, Our list was sent to the email address of the Club Secretary (not the membership secretary) it might be worth checking what address the ACU have for your club. Pete

Yes, plus other factors outside trials like Fathers Day, Mothers Day, etc

:thumbup: I bought a Renault Trafic (which is almost exactly the same as a Vivaro) the thing that gave me trouble was telling the insurance company that it was modified. As soon as I told them there was an extra row of seats in the back (for the kids), most companies weren't interested. If you are buying a standard van then you won't have that problem, but it almost stopped me buying one. Aviva came up trumps in the end.

Same here.

The new online licence or trials registration system is now available from the ACU. When you join a club, the Membership Secretary will give you a unique number to prove that you have joined a club. Go online HERE and you can bring up your details using your licence number. Check and amend as necessary your personal information and put your unique number in the space provided. Pay by debit card and your licence will automatically be updated and you will be instantly emailed to confirm the payment recieved. Riders joining the our club will find their unique number next to their name on their 2012 club membership card. Brilliant! Completed mine in less than two minutes, job done for 2012.