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Nice work Mr. Butler! I wish i would have know who uou were at the trials, i would have liked to talk to you some there. ( I am Carsen Sparks' father...)

Okay guys, thinking of making the leap here... what about this: http://www.nycewheels.com/lithium-polymer-ae-3610.html or this: http://www.nycewheels.com/10ah-lithium-ebike-battery-seat-post-mount.html with a charger like this: http://www.nycewheels.com/ezeebike-lithium-battery-charger.html or this: http://www.nycewheels.com/lithium-polymer-36v-charger.html From what I can tell the discharge limiter is all built in, a plug and play scenario. Any thoughts would be much appreciated... I am not up to speed on this and my business doesn't allow me much time to research and educate myself to the extent that I am comfortable making a decision on my own.

Thanks John!

oh snap!

Thanks for the update! I appreciate you doing this! Looks like they made the sections a little tougher this round... I will look forward to checking back here tonight for today’s results!

Hey Jon, I say we only let him "join our club" if we can have an event on this great land he speaks of...

changing grips to the renthal full diamond soft helps a lot too... they are a smaller diameter thus taking up less of their little hands on the grip and allowing for a little more reach from their fingers... then you can adjust the levers in even a bit more...

do you have the levers adjusted "in" and then adjusted for properly after that? my boy started on the 12.5 at 2 1/2 as well and had no problem at all locking up the rear brake... In the beginning i took off the front brake all together as to not overwhelm him with options. by the time he was three he was only using two fingers to brake and locking it up easily, he is small for his age. I understand what you are after as i am right now converting his 16 to hydro brakes... but i was pretty impressed with the band brakes myself... just wondering is all...

thanks. yeah, i was wondering about the foot brake. I ride a sherco so i will take a look at mine to get an idea of how it could work.

gwhy, do you have a pic up of your bike wit the rear brake installed? I would love to see how you did it!

i am curious about welding on these bikes... do you remove ALL electronics first? Do you use any type "anti-zap" device that clamps to the frame to protect electronics? Do you just disconnect the battery?

in the States here the "open ended" ones are sold as street bike / roadrace grips and you can get them in any compound... i run open ended soft compound.

Thanks Frogger! I am going to read up on it a bit here... what model do you have?

GJ - Having grown up racing mx i know exactly what you are talking about and agree wholeheartedly... On the other hand, like Frogger, i do plan to use this with my boy, we have a great relationship. I would use it two different ways; One while play riding, i could say" hey, lets try going over here" , "nice job buddy" , "did you see that rabbit?" he could say "did you see me do that Dad!?" you get the idea... I would also use it in completion. We have a very healthy level of communication and he craves my advise. As we walk the section he will from time to time even ask me to "stand here and make sure i see this line"... It can be done in a fashion that builds the relationship and helps him enjoy competing even more.

Seems to work well... i would agree that it teaches good throttle control. These are 1/4 turn throttles so there isn't a lot of room to play with... if they wick it 1/16th of a turn they are already at 25%. I agree it takes more finesse than say a sherco 5o but the advantage is it has a lot more pick up than a sherco 50 when they need it. At the end of the day my boy and i think it is good to go. *edit - he has been riding the other bike for 2.5 years now and has MANY hours of learning how to control these throttles... i agree they are touchy, but they can be mastered to take off VERY slowly with some practice...

after riding and competing on a 12" for 3 years, we are giving my boy his 16" 36v today. I will report back on how "we" think the throttle works this evening...

i thought i have seen minders using headsets to talk to riders via speakers in their helmets... is this done in competitor? Is it just a training tool? legal for world and US trials? what i am mainly wondering is what brand they are using? Is there one that they all like to use? Thanks

Does anyone know why he didn't ride youth again this year? I thought youth went up to 21 y.o.?

http://www.lewisportusa.com/greeves.htm I personally like the graphics, nice and simple. I have never taken graphics or color into consideration when I purchase a bike...

I don't think this is a "healthy debate". I think it's called "you being a conceited a-hole"... It's a place to talk trials, maybe you should spend your time here : http://www.englishforums.com/

i went with Renthal, full diamond pattern in the soft compound. The full diamond pattern has the smallest o.d. i have seen and the soft compound is nice for little soft hands. Y0u also need to make sure it is the road bike style and not mx style. mx style has higher "flanges", where road bike style has the smaller diameter "flanges" that are the same type as trials grips. "Flanges" being the the end of the grip opposite of the bar end. I cut them to length and installed bar ends.

Great points! I would like to add two more. 1). I rode a 2006 Sherco 290 this season and won the expert class in our state. 2). This is a bit better than the 2005 as it has 2009 upgrades such as carb, airbox, exhaust and ENGINE! From my understanding they are only using the 2005 rolling chasis and plastic.

yeah... I don't know what the conversion rate is, but $100,000. US dollars won't get you far while developing a bike. I was about to start line iteming costs and just laughed it off. Seriously folks, it's just a start and showed us a glimpse of what they are up to. Give it a chance. I wouldn't lump it in with the Chinese crap. I don't know if you guys get their products on that side of the pond, but here in the US their bikes are a joke, getting a bit better but a joke non the less.

The link i posted is all I know on the subject... I would imagine that yes, they will be available in the UK. The link was provided on RYP's website A person might start there if looking for more info. Hope that helps.