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The website is still up for last years event, This years event entries will not open till at least August. The trial is based in Malaucene Nr MT Ventoux so regarding airports you need to check I do not know ...... I will keep this thread posted on the whens and wheres nearer the time, but dont worry too much at the moment, Concentrate on getting three committed team mates, lights on the bikes, insurance etc the rest is easy.......

Have a look at the thread marked Ventoux/ Robregordo on European trials.. It was discussed there. I will forward the internet site/ contact details later in the month as I am riding with the organiser in a couple of weeks and will be able to get further details of this years event etc.

Will do, although give me a couple of weeks, mind you, Oor Wullie would have more idea on how to post photo's on here than me...

Hi Ross, I don't know about acquired the taste, I have as you know bought into SWM ownership. Funny lot these Swm boys, my French chum cum Swn ' know it all ' nut hasn t spoken to me for a week, since I moved the footrests down and back a knats... Dont know how he is going to react when I show him my spare pair of mazocchi yokes bored to take the jumbo forks being secretly flown and parachuted into France next week. I do like it, is it the best bike around that 78/80 era don t know, dont care. It looks good and goes well, just need to get used to riding it, first time out I did find it a little of a handful, its a big section bike and the trend of making everything a little Micky Mouse and tight suits my Fantic better... Time will tell, but I think she's a keeper, certainly now with the shinny new tank.

Mine is of French origin and had a metal tank. I think they all did as well as the early yellow models. Out of interest mine is marked TLM , it was the long ride model, it came with a slightly larger tank and the shocks were with out gas. The footrests were in the same postion although moved now.. These appear to be the only difference. Bon Chance

Thanks for the replies, will chase it up Monday.

Cheers Clive, If you could that would be great.

Could anyone please point me in the direction on where to obtain some Castrol arrows for route marking, if in fact they do still exist. Thanks

Yep, this was on the list of things I have driven Martin mad with, amoungst others. I thought I would just throw it out to a wider audiance. Cheers Ross would be interested, I have come across one or two, but they are beyond saving...

I have been searching for a while for a good quality steel SWM/ Gori tank for a red and white Gunaco. It appears they are almost unobtainable in good condition so... There seems to be a few of the later yellow acerbis plastic tanks around so could someone tell me if its at all possible to repaint these to a good durable standard or am I going to have to keep looking. On this note I have come across a firm that will make new tanks to order if they have enough to make it worthwhile around 8/10 at a price of around 300 stg anybody fancy making up an order. Thanks

Its true foreign vehicles getting flashed generally get away with it, however moves are afoot to liaise with the UK for an agreement to collect the fine in the UK. At the moment there is a lot of talk about this, whether its in place I don' t know. There is a chance if you are speeding on the RN roads or through a village they will chase/ follow you and you will be handed a on the spot fine. They are very hot on speeding now without doubt for the cash it generates, hence my last sentence, sadly the days of enjoying the French roads at speed are over. However, you choose your right foot, your wallet.

When ever i ridden in Spain certainly on the classic scene no one has taken notice whether the bike is road legal or not. However in France to do a lot of the classic trials your bike will need to be at least insured, and usually have lights fitted. There are some exceptions , but each year its getting stricter. Another note.. whilst trivial and I have never heard of anyone actually being effected by this is.... It you have a bike or such in the van and you are stopped by the Gendames, you maybe asked for proof of ownership. My trials riding chum of many years has mentioned this several times , and when we head off, always reminds me to have the docs at hand. They are also going through a spate of stopping small vans at the moment, the pretence being overweight issues as well as being nosey. I repeat its trivial , but might just catch someone out if you have a nasty barsteward poking around Lastly watch the speed, its so easy now to get caugh,t they are everywhere, and there is zero leeway... Bon chance

I read the question posed, as riders that compete. There are Ty days Honda days ride outs and people who use a scorpa to collect mushrooms when in season and ride the endless chemins that litter the countryside. As for trials they are few and far between. You ask the question how I know and its because I live here and struggle to find a trial to ride without doing hundreds and hundreds of km,s. I live in an area larger than Wales and it has 5 trials a year. To answer the last question regarding BMZ, I understand they have ceased trading for whatever reason.

Nice sentiments about France, sadly in my opinion not true. Never have I seen so much potential and so little interest. You are correct re the forums and the adulation, however it just doesn t filter into trials and entries... very disappointing. I would have to say the Uk in answer to the question, usually doing their best with limited land in comparison to countries rich with ... like France. Further to the last post a French FFM licence here to ride trials will cost in excess of 200 euros similar in Spain I believe, whereas an ACU licence is a tenner...

Or come a little further South, We have our version of Danbury / Raydon pits here with a smattering of Rocks...........

I don t know how hard or easy it is to register a bike. I have just gone through the process with a twinshock, a French bought bike with a lost carte grise. This was done using the carte gris collection, for older bikes although I dont know when the age cut off is. It might be straight forward or a can of worms thats the beauty of France ...

I would mirror the comment about looking on the Bon coin. It is awash with trials bikes of all shape,sizes and prices. I really would not buy a Uk bike as you really need one that is registered/ homologated in France. Why... well all things here have to be insured, technically any way, a French registered bike will help and it costs peanunts through the company ' Abela ' . Moving on from this if you ever progress to a trial unless your bike is insured you will not be able to ride. The only problem I see is that France is a huge country and the bike you want will be Km's away.. Hope this helps

Looks great, well done.. now to get out in some Eastern centre mud...

Hi Wobbler, I think around late spring next year is fine to start looking. We stay in a little BB a couple of kms out of the village, but the village itself is not large and I would n t recommend any last minute bookings otherwise you may be too far out. Part of the fun is enjoying the ambiance in the town on the Friday and Saturday night.

Hi Ross, The main thing to remember about this trial is that it is in fact a team trial, with a handicap system. You need to be part of a three man team all riding the same route. You can enter with two other mates or there is what they call a bourse, which is a market, whereby teams short of a rider can/ will enter the bourse to make up their team and so contact you to see if you can and or are willing to ride with them . At the end everybody riders its just the choice of language you converse in. The handicap works on age of rider and age of bike, the long and the short, the older the better in both cases. You get marks added or deducted to your individual score depending on the above. So if a load of younger riders turn up on late model twinshocks they are not going to win unless they all go clean at the very least. The bikes have to be road legal with lights fitted, up until now they do not have to work, although that maybe a requirement next year. Driving licences, insurance doc,s and the bikes legal doc,s have to be submitted with the entry and will be checked at signing on. This is strictly adherd to and no documents no ride. For French riders we need either an affliated licence or a valid medical certificate. For non French I don t know what is needed , but that investigated nearer the time. There are three routes, twinshock mainly, with a smattering of pre 65, all having gone up in terms of severity in recent years, all still very doable with a very long ride round on both days. Unless you are a very good rider the hardest is hard , the middle is tricky and the easy route I think is straightforward . Both John Bull and George Greenland are regular visitors to the trial so ask them their thoughts in the uk. The ambiance the trial / organisation is second to non, and is the only trial I would really try and sell to anybody looking to ride abroad. The town and area is awash with things to see and do and is taken over by the trial for this weekend. Its a long way down from the Uk, hence I would suggest you make a holiday of it, anybody wanting to take a little detour and get some practise in chez moi a few days before is welcome, hope that covers it.

The dates for the Ventoux classic two day 2015 have been arranged for the 10 th and 11 th October 2015. The entries will open around the middle of August, this gives potential riders plenty of time to work on Wags and or arrange brownie points... Good luck

I am riding with the bike as is at the moment, in all honesty its fine, I have never been that good at developement. Some people jump on a bike and straight away the foot pegs are too high too low, the suspension is too hard too soft.. I just ride whats under me.... excuse the pun....thats not to say that I also like the bike to be as good as possible hence the post... Changing the subject there are 300 odd riders next weekend at Sant Feliu, nearly sixty pre 65's, its getting to be 'the' Spanish trial to do ... The site is exceptional with the last sections on the beach on the breakwaters, one wrong turn or a dodgy dab and your five metres into the Med...I have my techy man as a minder so I will try and post some pictures next week. Thanks for all your help.

Thanks guys it would certainly make sense to stick with the original set up, if we could get them to work better. In all honesty I don t know the ruling here on forks , but as they are more than happy to let Rtl,s and mono yams run with the twin shocks I doubt the changing of forks will raise any eyebrows. The man who has done this on his Gunaco is with us this weekend in Spain, so I will pick his brains as well. If I learn anything of interest I will share next week. Thanks again

The betors are larger in diameter, so to use with existing yoke will require inlarging. I believe they came of a jumbo. I managed to secure the mudguard stay, spindle and brake arm, so hopefully that is the easy bit. Cheers

This subject was raised some some three years ago and to be fair opinions shared. Given the time frame I wondered if these we still valid. I have a red and white Guanaco with the mazocchi set up. Whilst its alright, they do tend to be very soft even after changing and playing with the springs. I have a nice pair of late betors including yokes / tete de fourche and my French guru is trying to convince me to go down this route. Some mentioned on the previous thread that all the works bikes had married the Mazocchi yokes to betor forks and I have since seen this recently on a very nicely prepared Belgium bike of Michel Gossiaux, again his name was mentioned in the previous posts. I understand there will be some machining to do, so the question really is, will the amount of work involved really merit any improvement. Thanks