Thanks for the quick replys, Autosol sounds like a good start thanks B40RT, I will check about the Vapour blasting as well Woody as that obviously sounds like a motor out and pulled apart and off to the blasting shop type job, motomike I have just found out that the motors were painted as new and did not know that so thanks, and I would put some photo's on here Ross but when I click insert image in edit it asks for a URL, I thought I might be able to just drag and drop the photo's?? any help on how to insert photo's would be great Cheers rock1