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Tricky, A lot of cars and appliances are a lot better these days. I do not remember that many Maxi's Granadas etc making 200,000 or 300000 miles back in the day. These days they easily do. I do not see people out jacking cars up and spending hours on a Sunday like they used to keeping the things going. Basically because they had to or they'd break down! Same goes for washer's fridges etc. Most are thrown out now due to a change in kitchen rather than breaking. The better makes seem to last forever. Yes buy Cheap and you will buy it again and nobody buys anything Chinese at 10% of what they used to cost and expects them to last. The Ossa we have is proving less troublesome than a 2011 GasGas and to be honest what has gone are mechanical parts rather than electrical and the effect was not major.
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The Model kind of makes sense. We have relied on P/EX in the past but the last two bikes have been sold privately abet via dealers. On that basis you do need to have the funds to "bridge" the gap between buying and selling. Chris has that capability now. I would also say that the Vertigo like the 4RT is pretty much a bike for those who aren't interested in "fettleing" bikes week to week. They just want a bike to ride that is competitive but reliable. I don't see any marque able to cope with that if they work as expected.
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Hopefully Billy Bolt should be there. He'd either win it or demolish the bike trying!!!!
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My point is that if they do not start as kids they will not be there with the disposable income in their forties. They will be doing something else instead.
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And it's easy to see why Trials has problems getting an audience. The WTC needs to be accessible. You need venues that attract spectators and importantly new spectators. Eventually the SSDT and Scott will die if there are no new riders and without Mum and Dad paying for their Sons and Daughters to ride that's where we will end up. Putting your head in the sand and decrying the lack of riders at club centre and National level is sitting there doing nothing. As it stands There are a few spots you can put in a nasty natural section. There is a nice walk round the course and there will be "enhanced" sections. You will not get permission for large areas of standing, temporary power, permission to walk over "protected" land in the majority of areas we would like to see these Trials in. You wouldn't get the crowd either to pay for it. Lets get the sport healthy then worry about natural sections.
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Another vote for Domino Dual Compound. The ends are hard as well so they last longer if you drop the bike or lean it up against a tree/rock. Grip wise the Renthals are superb but they do not last as long
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The Power is there but is controllable. If the Standard map is too aggressive you can change it to Map 2 or 3 which are softer.. Chris stayed with Map 1.
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Its Scotland Tomorrow, North Yorkshire is at Harwood Dale Scarborough on Sunday If you ring Vertigo you should be able to find out if there is a riding slot available.
I'd say that the grip available from the back end would make it a good bike for those who consider themselves "less able".
http://www.vertigomotors.co.uk/
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Presumably the change of Venue has to be approved? It's a shame on one hand especially for the local businesses who will lose the trade that stays the weekend, but given it only takes me 20 minutes to get there I like it!!!
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Confirmed That the British World Trials Round will be at Parkwood Off-Road, Tong!!!
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Not Sure how well it will do in the Sections
Actually it's a Moto3 bike. They did have one back in 2011 but this uses the Enduro 250 for the French series. Not quite ready to take on KTM and Honda in the worls MOTOGP3 yet!
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The Gas Gas Design goes back to 2009 and the engine has had only minor tweaks since 2006. The Beta has been around as long and the engine is older. Sherco re-designed the engine in 2011 but the chassis is really like the Ossa's Scorpa ditto. Montesa haven't done much since the 4RT came in. The Ossa is the "oldest" new design out there but really the Jgas and TRS use a Gas Gas Like engine. Leaving the Vertigo as the "newest" design. The Back tank Sherco worked pretty well but it should have had Efi to get the most out of it. Let's face it The Ossa and the Vertigo are radical compared to the competition.
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Penrith World Trials Facebook page has changed name to Yorkshire World Trial?
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As it stood not quite as good as the Ossa but better than the JGAS and Gas Gas. There's only a bit in it and it's suspension preference rather than anything else so it could be dialled in. Engine wise the Ossa and Vertigo are easily ahead.
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We already run Fuel injection on the Ossa. Basically it is smooth and progressive. The Ossa has a short "twist" on the throttle and the power ramps up nicely. The Vertigo has a more conventional "twist" but is similarly smooth. The major upsides are that it runs consistently and adjusts itself. There are other benefits to the design of the Vertigo and Ossa. In both cases the Air filter is up and away from any crap. I check the filter on the Ossa and haven't needed to change it for a few weeks. Not something that could be said of a Sherco, Gas Gas or Jotagas. The air intake is almost guaranteed to ingest mud and water. The Vertigo despite the weather at Silsden didn't need miss a beat so I would expect the filter to be as clean as the Ossa's is.
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At Tong Today 80 riders turned up for a Trial in the most atrocious conditions. Firstly well done to Spen Valley and their team of markers and officials for getting the event on. And secondly congratulations to the Observers and Riders at a great event. Despite the Conditions it seemed everybody had a good time!
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Chris thinks it's a good idea to hang on to the Ossa until his funds are healthier and the worst of the winter is gone. The impression we got was that a initial batch of bikes should be in the UK before Christmas followed by more in the new year.
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Well Arrived a bit early at Pratts to make sure Chris had time to get his full hour but the previous rider had had to move to 2 o'clock so Chris ended up riding for a bit longer. Bike is very nicely put together with some nice touches such as a brake lever that will be very tough to break.
Power delivery can be altered by the Mapping which is a quick job to change using a button on the front of the bike. This does change the nature of the delivery of power Chris preferring map 1 which is pretty much the competition map. 2 and 3 are richer and 4 I think is leaner and for warmer climates. I stand to corrected on that as the weather was foul and conversation difficult.
The grip in the stream was really good. So good that Chris ran the bike along the banking at the sides to check the stream itself was not super grippy.He was able to run it across some pretty steep banks without the Combat losing traction. If the Combat has a few extra kilos then it hides them well. The weight under your backside is also a little different but the bike felt really good on the back wheel.
The clutch felt really good to Chris so he asked Doug about it and although it's a Diaphragm like the Gas Gas it's been made sightly bigger and with better "fingers" so that you don't get a "good" or a "bad" one. It's also light but pretty controllable when letting the lever out. Chris found getting Neutral easy once he worked out that you put it into first then just gently poke it into neutral. The Kick start seemed to start the bike pretty early on it's swing but no throttle while you do it.
Generally Chris would adjust the Handlebars a little and also he felt the rear shock wasn't as lively as the Ohlins on his Ossa. That should only be a case of tweaking it to your riding style. It looks like the service level could be pretty good as well. Some of the servicing sounds like it has been thought out differently as well. The Mains are accessible without splitting the engine and various others parts are more easily replaced than the majority of Trials Bikes. The design of the engine basically asked the questions why is it done like that? Where the answer was it's always been done that way then a better way was found. Hence the electric water pump. It runs to keep the engine at a constant temp. The engine driven pumps cool the engine more at higher revs and less at lower ones which is not really good for the engine.
Overall the Bike and Doug's approach to selling them is highly impressive.
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Isn't that the guy who designed the OSSA and Gas Gas engines?
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Dibs is currently practicing for an Indoor as per posts on Facebook. Was Francesc Moret at the launch? As for the frame. I presume they are looking at it as a tougher, longer lasting material and in Normal competition FIM WTC rules do not apply? It could also be that the FIM are looking at the rules for 2016 and a change could be on the cards.
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We run 50ml Synthetic Oil to 5 litres of Tesco momentum. I also put in 50ml of Silkolene FST Pro boost. It's a liitle smokey when cold but runs fine when warm. I also fit Iridium plugs. Chris's is a 2014 300 for reference. I can recommend Andy at Pennine Trialsport if you need any specialist advice but he is a bit away from you.
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Chris switched to an Ossa TR300i 2014 model. Really to see how good a Fi two stroke can be and tide him over until the Vertigo came along. Advantages are that it does not have a carb. Turns out it rides pretty well and he trusts it. Disadvantages are that it's a Trials bike and most of the ancillaries are the same ones that are fitted to other Trials bikes. We've had one blip where it seemed that a loose screw caused engine bogging but It's proving a winner at Club Trials on the Hard courses at West Leeds. If they do get the Factory going then He'd look at another otherwise the Vertigo has Fi and to be honest for a "hobby" rider as opposed to a "Garage hog" Mechanic rider it's a better option.
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So the Range looks like Vandal S and Vandal LR with a conventional Looking Frame. The Combat Camo, Ice Hell and RR with the RR having a Titanium frame, (£££££££££££), and the "Scooter".
Looks like they are covering all the bases.
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Looks like Harry Lampkin took one to the Centre Trial at Addingham this weekend. There's one out there!
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Just received an Email From Steve Saunders. TRS will be taking the first production bikes to EICMA with test rides looking to start in December.
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