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  1. pocket

    Golner Twinshock

    Hi all, Am getting back into trials riding after more than a few years off. Had a honda Seeley before several Yam mono's. Would really like a fourstroke again and twinshock for best of all options. Always thought the Golner honda's looked the buisness but could not afford one back then. Are they increadably rare and am I dreaming or can anyone point me in the direction of one. Cheers Steve.
  2. Do you use the honda steel plates with the barnett clutch plates. I purchashed some barnett plates off Ebay USA but not got round to fitting them yet to my seeley.I hope they are as good as you say.
  3. Hi Barnett plates sort the problem once and for all.I have them in three of my bikes.(TLR250,86RTL and TL200 Seeley) Plate no is HPK-19.
  4. honda pants

    Rtl Exhaust

    Hi, I am in the process of making a stainless steel replacement rear silencer similar to the Seeley one's i make, i will keep you informed if you like.
  5. andy m

    4stroke Finale

    The book stayed at # 127. Sold my Seeley recently as I had been looking at it for too long and not riding it so it had to go. I wonder how long before Tommy Sandham does a reprint. Hey BJ if you hear on the grapevine give me a shout so as I can get my copy on the bay before they plummet. Cheers, Any one know why my symbols keys don't type the right ones, look at the pound sign, ?????
  6. trickymicky

    4stroke Finale

    I cant think of a single part which is shared by both bikes. Everything is different. Engine,Frame,Forks Wheels,all completely different. The Seeley was produced 3 or 4 years before the TLR from memory.
  7. big john

    4stroke Finale

    I cannot comment on the condition of any particular motorcycle advertised for sale whether that be on e-bay or elsewhere, however the Seeley Honda Trials 200 (TL200E) produced by Colin Seeley International was indeed sanctioned by Honda UK. Honda Racing Service Centre (RSC, now HRC) provided a fair number of components to allow Seeley to produce the machine. The frames and swinging arms were made in England and a set of "state of the art" Marzocchi forks and yolks were used. A substantial proportion of the completed product was Honda. It of course is a fair arguement, is a Seeley really a Honda, well as it was agreed that a Honda trials bike was too much hassle for Honda to do themselves, why not contract it out to Seeley to do the job for them? I would say it is a worthy component of Honda trials history, can't ignore it! Edited to add: Colin Seeley himself told me last year that the company didn't actually make any money on the sale of the Seeley Honda trials machine, I think the list price was about
  8. honda pants

    4stroke Finale

    Lovely Honda Seeley? That's an old Knocker!!! not worth a shilling!
  9. stevieb

    4stroke Finale

    Talking of expence, No one has mentioned the lovely Seeley that is curently on ebay Item number: 120241326557 what a great bike, but what does everyone think of the 'Seeley' is it a bit of an exotic/limited edition or is this a piece of Honda History ?? also what do think this will go for ??
  10. Ive seen these go for more in a far worse condition, at that price that's okay upper end of what I'd pay but okay. Reading some of your posts on numerous threads majestyman I really wonder about you some times. Without doubt the RTL Hondas were some of the best trials bikes ever built, that tatty air cooled mono is an exceptional machine and with the base that's there it wouldn't be tatty for long. if you knew your stuff a bit better mate you'd know that. Why do Honda's go for so much, simple really, they are some of the best bikes around, RTL's were exceptional, TLR's are still some of the most sought after twinshocks around and as for original Seeley's, sky's the limit. Perhaps the number of threads and posts in the Honda Forum might give that away. Oh and yes if I had the spare folding stuff I'd seriously think about it.....
  11. Well, in respect of the production motors, don't have any part numbers to confirm anything but my mate has stipped a few TLR250 and RTL motors and components such as valves, pistons, rings, cam, head etc are the same on both. The RTL does have a different ignition. From riding both the gear ratios appear the same, no noticeable difference. (we have a couple of TLR250 and a Seeley with RTL motors fitted) The clutch on the later RTL, '87 on I think, is a bigger item than the earlier RTL which is the same as the TLR. It has 1 more spring in the pressure plate than the early one. Whether it works any better than the earlier woeful clutch I can't confirm.... The exhaust port position on the production RTL/TLR head is the same and it will fit in either the twin downtube RTL or the single downtube TLR/Seeley with no problem. The RTL with the single front downtube was the works bike, you don't mean that do you as there is no documented info on those anywhere, they were complete one-offs. To get to 270cc was a major exercise even for HRC, stud pattern widened, oil feed relocated, piston was offset on the gudgeon pin.
  12. andy m

    Seeley On Ebay

    Just taken a deposit on my Seeley. I was not using it so it had to go, no good looking at it wondering whether to use it or not. Used the bay as a shop window. Second caller sent a deposit. Make way for the Majesty 250.
  13. Nice bike but not fully original as Big John knows my father has one with the Seeley branded front plate but more importantly a prestine genuine RSC exhaust what would it be worth or the mono version we made when i was 16 with the box alloy swing arm from a Honda crosser and a hydraulic stumpy shock from an airplane landing gear if only i had kept that or at least a picture to prove it
  14. Hi Chassis looks to be seeley, and the barrel looks standard 200 size,but it was quite common in Japan to take these out to 220cc, but maybe someone will remember the actual bike ?
  15. Sorted the Fuel tap off Steve Goode. Any idea which folding tip gear lever is used on the Seeley. Also anything unobtainable and therefore would not be a good idea to damage if you get my drift as I am going to start to use the bike hopefully regularly now.
  16. I don't know about the Seeley hangers, but I fitted XR400/XR250 pegs straight onto my TLR and RTL without having to change the hangers. I bought them from Off Road Only.
  17. The seeley pegs, i used a pair of brackets that i purchased off trials cast.They cost
  18. Thanks B J. Whilst on the subject any one know the closest paint match for the Seeley red. Thanks
  19. yeah martin, i got that with the forks and wheels, but the seeleys used these too. Now i understand seeley and rs have only one down tube. I am waiting for the engine number. Matey wants 800 euros so I will leave it i fink!
  20. certainly NO seeley or rs frame. (2 downtubes) NO rs engine (engine bottom seems from xl or cb 125 to me, but no clear view on the top end.)
  21. Hmm . . . Mainly looks like an RS200/250 engine looks too big for a 125. Tank/seat unit looks Seeley and possibly the forks/yokes. Swing arm looks more RS to me. But then I don't know that much so will leave it to the experts for the definitive conclusion! Very interesting though!
  22. rockaria

    Seeley 250

    Looks like the Seeley I had about three years ago, bought it off a guy who had been using it for green laning. Can't tell you anything about its history prior to that, but it did have the original handbook with it, which I think gave some details about its origin. I assumed that the cylinder was a later conversion because I don't think that "large finned" type was available until the mid 80's. The compression ratio seemed too high to me, perhaps it's off the 250RS road bike.
  23. tlrs

    Seeley 250

    The seeley framed 250cc bike lejeune (& hattori (?)) rode in the 1980 SSDT was the RS250T, it used another type of cylinder (external oil pipe to be used because the big bush cut through the internal oil channel). I believe those engines have never been for sale. I think this is an individual/shop conversion rather than a Honda works bike: why would they use the cylinder of their new tlr in a +/-4 year older (design) bike?
  24. dirtrider

    Seeley 250

    Would you have any contact details for Colin Seeley, Big John?
  25. big john

    Seeley 250

    What about Colin Seeley himself? He is still alive and kicking (I actually interviewed him on stage at the Scottish Show in March this year), however he is not happy just to part with information willy-nilly. He usually charges a fee to research his records, however that fee is donated to the charity that he set up for pain relief in memory of his first wife, The Joan Seeley memorial pain relief trust, I think it's called. He told me that he had been approached by a Seeley Honda owner who wanted his bike dated and said, "OK it will be
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